Either Ashura was a Jin or..

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People always state Ashura and Indra were equals, thus their transmigrations, Naruto and Sasuke are aswell.

Theres also those who state Ashura was not a Jin, and that his Bijuu cloak was just spirit cloak of his own energy that rivals the Susuanoo.

If Ashura was not a jin, and
Ashura = Indra and
Ashura = Naruto and Indra = Sasuke then
Naruto > Sasuke on the sole basis he has the bijuu's in him.
 
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Ashura = indra

yet.....

Hashirama >> Madara

o-o
 

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Good theory โ€ฆ now just sit back & watch the nardo v sasky threads appear
 

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Indra had the sharingan Sasuke got the rennigan thats why naruto needs a bijuu to rival sasuke.
IMO
 

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Indra had the sharingan Sasuke got the rennigan thats why naruto needs a bijuu to rival sasuke.
IMO
Indra had the Swirly whirlpool eyes, not rinnegan or Sharingan

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Indra had the Swirly whirlpool eyes, not rinnegan or Sharingan

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Foreal tho ain't no telling what he had could have been a Mangekyou Rennigan lol
 

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Naruto needs the bijuu for the simple fact that he is NOT a direct Ashura Senju descendant. Hashirama IS a direct descendent it is in his blood
 

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Indra had the Swirly whirlpool eyes, not rinnegan or Sharingan

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He does have the sharingan.... :|

OT. Ashura and his incarnations are different...
 

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Ashura = indra

yet.....

Hashirama >> Madara

o-o

Hashirama and Madara Tied. There was just something different that happened. Hashirama changed the cycle by trying to kill Madara. I am 100% Certain that Indra tries to kill Ashura and he defends himself with equal strength and that causes them both to die. But ashura never wanted to do harm to his brother, which is why its always a tie. Hashirama however decided to not do that and he gave up his brother for the village. That was the moment everything changed, Madara survived, got his DNA, waited, awakened the rinnegan made his plan and made his ressurection possible so that he could unite the next incarnations.

Narutos story is so ironic xD
 

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Naruto needs the bijuu for the simple fact that he is NOT a direct Ashura Senju descendant. Hashirama IS a direct descendent it is in his blood

The Uzumaki are a direct off-branch of the Senju, thus a direct descendant

I agree those old pics have'nt been wrong yet lol

Yeah, they even told us about Ashura being a Jin or having his own self made chakra cloak
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Um........... That's not logical at all. Option B. since both Naruto and Sasuke have abilities they didn't have Naruto and Sasuke>Ashura and Indra.
 

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Um........... That's not logical at all. Option B. since both Naruto and Sasuke have abilities they didn't have Naruto and Sasuke>Ashura and Indra.

Going on to err on the side of logical here, and say we can't know they didn't have more hax abilities, considering we've never seen them fight in any panel, we've just seen their Bijuu cloak/personal power cloak and Susuanoo

They were the sons of the Omnipotent sage, they must've been powerful
 

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No all the incarnations dont have the same powers but they are always equal or close in power and one has body based powers and the other eye based.
 

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Going on to err on the side of logical here, and say we can't know they didn't have more hax abilities, considering we've never seen them fight in any panel, we've just seen their Bijuu cloak/personal power cloak and Susuanoo

They were the sons of the Omnipotent sage, they must've been powerful


Powerful, but not as powerful as current Naruto and Sasuke. Indra could not have gotten rinnegan since it requires Hagoromo's chakra specifically and not his. Sasuke has rinnegan. Sasuke>Indra. By extension, there's not confirmation of Ashura being a jin. That would have already fulfilled the prophecy, so it almost certainly didn't happen. Simple conclusion: Naruto=Sasuke>Ashura=Indra.
 

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He is not a Senju so he doesnt have tobiramas or hashirama sort of chakra. He is not even full uzumaki therefore he does NOT have access to that sort of power. Even tge Uzumaki arent direct descendants. They are watered down and branched off
 

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If you neggas can't understand love beats hate and power in shonen manga by now you can get the fk outta my face
 

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KH just soloed you're thread. Reincarnation doesn't have jack squat to do with power.

Not really, and Off Topic, you realize you just used "you're" incorrectly right? Like you did extra work, to be wrong.
 

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Indra had the Swirly whirlpool eyes, not rinnegan or Sharingan

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Lolwut?

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