[Predictions] Naruto Manga 470 Discussion / 471 Predictions

[Rishawn]

Okay, what you are saying is not a theory or opinion but a fact, please tell me, do you know something from Kishimoto that everyone else doesn't? I mean eveything you posted has no logic in there whatsoever. The First through Fifth hokage are Senju? What about the Sixth; Danzo? He isn't listed there. Um okay so you say the Third Hokage and Konohamaru are Senju but aren't sure if Asuma is or isn't. Asuma is Sarutobi's son and Konohamru's uncle so the three share the same blood and you aren't sure if Asuma is a Senju...I think you need to get your priorities straight before you start typing.

The Senju Clan were considered the strongest of all clans during the war-torn era before the founding of the hidden villages. Together with the Uchiha clan they bulit what is known today as Konohagakure. It seems as though because Tsunade never had a kid from anyone, makes her the only remaining Senju relative.

Hashirama (Senju Leader)

Tobirama (Hashirama's brother)

Tsunade (Hashirama's granddaughter/Tobirama's grandniece)

Nawaki (Hashirama's grandson/Tobirama's grandson/Tsunade's brother)

Touka (Hashirama's close associate)

Senju clan ancestor (His descendants are the Senju Clan)

Listed above are the only ones having Senju blood and are the only members of this clan to be revealed as of yet by Kishi himself.

Supposedly the last known Senju relative to be alive to date is Tsunade, though her last name hasn't been released by Kishimoto. She shares the same blood with the First but what if her last name is from her mother's side? Then she wouldn't be a fulfledged direct Senju and would instead be something along the lines of a half Senju. This is only my opinion. Until Kishi confirms anyone else as a Senju, Naruto and or the whole village being Senju is just a thoery.

Madara tells Naruto that the fire of the Senju clan dwelled within him and could see the First Hokage in him. Though, Madara was only using him as an example of the clash between Uchiha/Senju since he also said that he and Sasuke have been chosen by fate and thus never said that Naruto was a Senju himself therefore it is not a fact. Since there is no proof yet that Naruto is a Senju or anyone else in Konoha for that matter, I think that it is highly unlikely. Although this is another opinion of mines and if Kishi does decide to make Naruto/villagers a Senju then I can't wait for the reasoning behind that.​

great post bravo

 

[RasenShruiken]

Okay now people might have talked about this before but im kinda new to NB.
But this iz somthing ive been thinking about for a long time.

Does any body Know Anything about the Second Hokage Besides the fact that he was the second Hokage and he is the 1st Hokage's brother.

i know about all the other Leaf village kages besides him its like he's the black sheep of the kages like whats his story??

The second hokage was related to the first( i think he was the 1st's brother) He was a master of water-style jutsus, and could use them on deserts. Also, he managed to consolidate a jutsu that normally took 44 handseals into a jutsu that used one seal. Currently, thats all we know about him.

 

[Hyuuga Essa]

The second hokage was related to the first( i think he was the 1st's brother) He was a master of water-style jutsus, and could use them on deserts. Also, he managed to consolidate a jutsu that normally took 44 handseals into a jutsu that used one seal. Currently, thats all we know about him.

Tobirama was part of the Senju clan, along with his leader and brother, Hashirama. When, decades before the start of the series, Hashirama struck a peace treaty with Madara Uchiha, Tobirama helped them to found Konoha. When the First Hokage, Hashirama, died, Tobirama was appointed as the Second Hokage. He was responsible for establishing Konoha's organisational system by setting up various organisations, such as the Academy, the ANBU, the chūnin exams, and the Konoha Military Police, which he created as a sign of trust towards the Uchiha clan. However, according to Madara, the Military Police was actually established to distance the Uchiha from the government of the village, and place the clan under a tight surveillance under the ANBU.

Tobirama trained a three-man team of his own called Team Tobirama, which consisted of Hiruzen Sarutobi, Homura Mitokado, and Koharu Utatane. He eventually selected Hiruzen, his prized student, for the position of Third Hokage, Homura and Koharu becoming Hiruzen's advisers. After giving the title of Hokage to Hiruzen, Tobirama went off to fight in the First Great Shinobi World War, where he died a noble death in battle.

 

[SaGe ArTs]

Tobirama was part of the Senju clan, along with his leader and brother, Hashirama. When, decades before the start of the series, Hashirama struck a peace treaty with Madara Uchiha, Tobirama helped them to found Konoha. When the First Hokage, Hashirama, died, Tobirama was appointed as the Second Hokage. He was responsible for establishing Konoha's organisational system by setting up various organisations, such as the Academy, the ANBU, the chūnin exams, and the Konoha Military Police, which he created as a sign of trust towards the Uchiha clan. However, according to Madara, the Military Police was actually established to distance the Uchiha from the government of the village, and place the clan under a tight surveillance under the ANBU.

Tobirama trained a three-man team of his own called Team Tobirama, which consisted of Hiruzen Sarutobi, Homura Mitokado, and Koharu Utatane. He eventually selected Hiruzen, his prized student, for the position of Third Hokage, Homura and Koharu becoming Hiruzen's advisers. After giving the title of Hokage to Hiruzen, Tobirama went off to fight in the First Great Shinobi World War, where he died a noble death in battle.

Wow,that's some good info...Thanks,man, you get reps for this

 

[yusufms]

If that happens, it would be hilarious. I mean, having your own weapon used against you? just funny.

yeah but i dont think it will betray kisame cuz so far it has been absorbing killer bees chakra and it still hasnt changed sides

 

[Choujuu Giga]

Okay im glad you Voiced your Opinion to my theory but thats all it was,was a theory of mine all of them are Senju including Gay ass Danzo and iif u would have read my eariler posts u would have saw that i corrected myself about Asuma being a Senju its not that i wasent sure if he was a Senju i dident know he had any relation to any of the Kages so ok i F***** Up on that 1
and another point u made about How the Senju and Uchihas started konohagakure as well and how the 5th and only a couple of people in the village have the Senju blood were good. But i dont wanna believe that the Senju bloodline is only within them until we get more info from kishimoto about the whole Senju thing for now they are all Senju's in my book

But i agree with you on some points about the whole bloodline thing ill admit it makes alot of sense but like u said yourself your not even 100% sure who are Senju or not.....Thus far thats why we all post to Voice our Opnion. And to say that i have no logic in my posts is crazzy its an Arrgument im just letting people Know what i think about the Whole Senju thing.. So for the Future try to b more pollite with your words when your talking 2 Shonuff.. .

But this is cool looks like im finally starting to have my voice heard.


:naruto::nindaime::asuma:All Senju Deal wit it

I'm sorry if it seemed as though I came out rough. It is good to have opinions and I was simply trying to correct what I felt needed correcting ^^​

 

[Pervyy]

thanks for listing all the firsts relatives, but a clan isnt just a family is it? i thought i was loads of clans brought together?

 

[Fyx]

Tobirama was part of the Senju clan, along with his leader and brother, Hashirama. When, decades before the start of the series, Hashirama struck a peace treaty with Madara Uchiha, Tobirama helped them to found Konoha. When the First Hokage, Hashirama, died, Tobirama was appointed as the Second Hokage. He was responsible for establishing Konoha's organisational system by setting up various organisations, such as the Academy, the ANBU, the chūnin exams, and the Konoha Military Police, which he created as a sign of trust towards the Uchiha clan. However, according to Madara, the Military Police was actually established to distance the Uchiha from the government of the village, and place the clan under a tight surveillance under the ANBU.

Tobirama trained a three-man team of his own called Team Tobirama, which consisted of Hiruzen Sarutobi, Homura Mitokado, and Koharu Utatane. He eventually selected Hiruzen, his prized student, for the position of Third Hokage, Homura and Koharu becoming Hiruzen's advisers. After giving the title of Hokage to Hiruzen, Tobirama went off to fight in the First Great Shinobi World War, where he died a noble death in battle.

That have nice information but there's only 1 mistake , when sarutobi became or was to became the third hokage 1st and 2nd were still alive , and the team u speak was created before the death of 1st hokage , but anyway its a really good information thx

 

[Choujuu Giga]

thanks for listing all the firsts relatives, but a clan isnt just a family is it? i thought i was loads of clans brought together?

Your welcome ^^ Um lets see, your theory being a clan consisting of a bunch of other clans well lets take for example the Uchiha and Hyuuga clan. Every member of their clan bares that last name. So it would seem that everyone in a clan all bare the same last name, which would mean that they all have some sort of relation to one another. Although I myself am not one-hundred percent sure. Like the mother in the families have their maiden name until they marry and then the father is the one who passes on the last name to the wife/children, pretty much like in reality.

In Tsunade's case it might be a bit different since her last name hasn't been revealed yet. When it is released and it is something other than Senju, I will continue to say that she is still at least part Senju because she is blood-related to the First and Second. Naruto's case is even more wierd with the fact that he bares his mother's last name instead of his fathers. A lot of the adults probably even the whole village knew due to Minato being the Fourth. So they all knew the truth and decided to keep his biological parents a secret from him.

Why did the adults who knew keep this a secret? Jiraiya was entrusted as godfather to Naruto but when they were reunited years later he still keeps the secret from him and acts like a stranger. What the hell for? It doesn't make any sense, were the adults told to keep the truth hidden by Minato? I think that if he was told the truth when he was old enough to understand then his outlook on life would have had a different outcome.

Sorry -_- for this not exactly pertaining to this chapter but I had to let it out.​

 

[heart2kill]

cant wait for the next chapter as always... +_+
kisame swords look cool wonder what other special power it has other than sucking chakra.

 

[Fyx]

Your welcome ^^ Um lets see, your theory being a clan consisting of a bunch of other clans well lets take for example the Uchiha and Hyuuga clan. Every member of their clan bares that last name. So it would seem that everyone in a clan all bare the same last name, which would mean that they all have some sort of relation to one another. Although I myself am not one-hundred percent sure. Like the mother in the families have their maiden name until they marry and then the father is the one who passes on the last name to the wife/children, pretty much like in reality.

In Tsunade's case it might be a bit different since her last name hasn't been revealed yet. When it is released and it is something other than Senju, I will continue to say that she is still at least part Senju because she is blood-related to the First and Second. Naruto's case is even more wierd with the fact that he bares his mother's last name instead of his fathers. A lot of the adults probably even the whole village knew due to Minato being the Fourth. So they all knew the truth and decided to keep his biological parents a secret from him.

Why did the adults who knew keep this a secret? Jiraiya was entrusted as godfather to Naruto but when they were reunited years later he still keeps the secret from him and acts like a stranger. What the hell for? It doesn't make any sense, were the adults told to keep the truth hidden by Minato? I think that if he was told the truth when he was old enough to understand then his outlook on life would have had a different outcome.

Sorry -_- for this not exactly pertaining to this chapter but I had to let it out.​

well there are many possibilities for that , maybe they kept that secret from naruto so he wouldnt think he was a genius like his father , for example look at uchiha they have amazing powers since the childhood and that attracts attention , this way naruto fought to reach the top ninja and he did it through the hardest way possible.

another theory could be related with minato's enemys since he was a genius and everyone feared him they could try to kill his son if they knew who was he
i know this is off topic like u said but i dont understand entirely about this 2

well i hope naruto learns some jutsus from his father like a bloodline just like anko ability

 

[Pervyy]

Your welcome ^^ Um lets see, your theory being a clan consisting of a bunch of other clans well lets take for example the Uchiha and Hyuuga clan. Every member of their clan bares that last name. So it would seem that everyone in a clan all bare the same last name, which would mean that they all have some sort of relation to one another. Although I myself am not one-hundred percent sure. Like the mother in the families have their maiden name until they marry and then the father is the one who passes on the last name to the wife/children, pretty much like in reality.

In Tsunade's case it might be a bit different since her last name hasn't been revealed yet. When it is released and it is something other than Senju, I will continue to say that she is still at least part Senju because she is blood-related to the First and Second. Naruto's case is even more wierd with the fact that he bares his mother's last name instead of his fathers. A lot of the adults probably even the whole village knew due to Minato being the Fourth. So they all knew the truth and decided to keep his biological parents a secret from him.

Why did the adults who knew keep this a secret? Jiraiya was entrusted as godfather to Naruto but when they were reunited years later he still keeps the secret from him and acts like a stranger. What the hell for? It doesn't make any sense, were the adults told to keep the truth hidden by Minato? I think that if he was told the truth when he was old enough to understand then his outlook on life would have had a different outcome.

Sorry -_- for this not exactly pertaining to this chapter but I had to let it out.​

Maybe they kept it from him to stop him hating or something like that?
You know how sasuke lost everything and went crazy with revenge, maybe they thought by keeping this from naruto he wouldnt go down the same path and release the 9 tails on the village again?

Also maybe the whole village doesnt know hes the 4ths son?

just ideas i guess lets see if kishi spells it all out for us?

 

[HokagePein]

That have nice information but there's only 1 mistake , when sarutobi became or was to became the third hokage 1st and 2nd were still alive , and the team u speak was created before the death of 1st hokage , but anyway its a really good information thx

also just a little intresting little fact the 2nd Hokage had a lighting sword which was very powerful that we saw get broken by Sasuke and naruto when Sasuke hit it it with 2 chidoris and naruto nailed it with a rasengan

 

[dominykus]

Overall its a good chapter, i cant wait for the next one!! The fight between Killerbee and Kisame gonna be surely awesome!! How a ninja can escape a chakra leech like that?? now... the better ninja got some weapon...sasuke his katana ( and the sword of Sasuno), Killerbee his 8 swords, kisame his legendary sword, Pain when he is alive got his black rod, Orochimaru got a legend sword too...Why Naruto dont got a weapon too? i think its a good idea to give some weapon to naruto...OR after A LOT of mangas give some new jutsu and some tranning for naruto. Its not because im a fan of naruto. Naruto do fu*k all after the fight with Pain about 20 mangas in the past... Yea he grow up in many way but he dont become more powerfull like sasuke did. And his head is wanted by Madara and akatsuki... i think its time for naruto to get someting a weapon, new jutsu, bloodline limit, he is the main character after all....

So what you think???

 

[John Constantine]

Overall its a good chapter, i cant wait for the next one!! The fight between Killerbee and Kisame gonna be surely awesome!! How a ninja can escape a chakra leech like that?? now... the better ninja got some weapon...sasuke his katana ( and the sword of Sasuno), Killerbee his 8 swords, kisame his legendary sword, Pain when he is alive got his black rod, Orochimaru got a legend sword too...Why Naruto dont got a weapon too? i think its a good idea to give some weapon to naruto...OR after A LOT of mangas give some new jutsu and some tranning for naruto. Its not because im a fan of naruto. Naruto do fu*k all after the fight with Pain about 20 mangas in the past... Yea he grow up in many way but he dont become more powerfull like sasuke did. And his head is wanted by Madara and akatsuki... i think its time for naruto to get someting a weapon, new jutsu, bloodline limit, he is the main character after all....

So what you think???

No.. Hishi already blew Naruto's powers out of proportion,he doesn't need a weapon.

 

[RasenShruiken]

well there are many possibilities for that , maybe they kept that secret from naruto so he wouldnt think he was a genius like his father , for example look at uchiha they have amazing powers since the childhood and that attracts attention , this way naruto fought to reach the top ninja and he did it through the hardest way possible.

another theory could be related with minato's enemys since he was a genius and everyone feared him they could try to kill his son if they knew who was he
i know this is off topic like u said but i dont understand entirely about this 2

well i hope naruto learns some jutsus from his father like a bloodline just like anko ability

A kekai genkai would be totally badass...but how come it hasn't awakened yet? maybe the kyuubi is blocking it.
Oops. I just answered my own question.

 

[dominykus]

No.. Hishi already blew Naruto's powers out of proportion,he doesn't need a weapon.

A weapon, new jutsu, or training is a must for naruto in my mind. And why you think naruto power is out of proportion in fact he dont beat pain at all yea he got Sage+kyuubi modebut he need too train it.

 

[Shonuff]

No.. Hishi already blew Naruto's powers out of proportion,he doesn't need a weapon.

I agree wit u on this one Naruto already has the ultimate weapon, the nine tailed Fox any other weapon like a sword or a special knife wouldent even matter at this point hes already becoming the ultimate ninja. Naruto just needs to mature as a ninja. A new weapon wouldent make naruto a better ninja or a fighter.

Even though it would be Crazy if naruto had the Devil May Cry guns Ebony @ ivory.

 

[John Constantine]

I agree wit u on this one Naruto already has the ultimate weapon, the nine tailed Fox any other weapon like a sword or a special knife wouldent even matter at this point hes already becoming the ultimate ninja. Naruto just needs to mature as a ninja. A new weapon wouldent make naruto a better ninja or a fighter.

Even though it would be Crazy if naruto had the Devil May Cry guns Ebony @ ivory.

Dante FTW
Anyway,Naruto's powers are already huge and giving him more would mean compensate for Sasuke because they need to be leveled IMO.

 

[MayuneSpirit]

Okay!
This has been bothering me terribly.

People are saying how Sakura is on her way to kill Sasuke, and is going to die first instant, all that.

1. Sakura is a medical ninja. She can't just rush into battle, as she has been trained, she must stay on the side and avoid being hurt in order to stay alive so she can heal anyone who is injured. Why would she just barge in and attack Sasuke?

2. She doesn't want to kill him, Shikamaru came to her saying he was pulling a team together to stop Akatsuki, and Sasuke. Intending that they will kill him if needed to keep a war from breaking out between villages. So, why would she go after Sasuke herself if she knew what Shikamaru was doing? She obviously has other motives, and only needs Kiba to sense Sasuke out.

3. It has just been basically shouted in all of our faces that she still deeply cares for Sasuke, and was probably going to go after him herself no matter what Naruto said. She doesn't want him dead, she just doesn't want Naruto to suffer anymore. The manga is beginning to repeat it self, in a different way. The one to stop Sasuke's curse mark from taking over in the chuunin exams was...SAKURA![tra la la~] She has an important role whether you guys like it or not. The only way she would die is if it would be, in my opinion also stating this as a theory, would be if Madara killed her, making both Naruto and Sasuke very angry--since they have always been particularly protective of her--and defeating him together.

Why Madara would kill her, is based on an apparently popular theory that Madara wants Karin to remove Sasuke's eyes, for some reason that I don't remember, but what people don't seem to remember is that Karin isn't a trained medical ninja, she just has the ability to give people her chakra when they bite her arm. Which Madara knows, he also probably knows of Sakura's abilities as a skilled medical ninja.

So unless he wants Sasuke to die when his eyes were removed--which I don't think since he still needs him--then he needs Sakura to do it. But, she would refuse[I think so at least] which would result in her death. Even as a Sakura fan, I don't believe she could defeat Madara, and it would take Naruto and Sasuke together.

But still, this is my opinion. If I got anything wrong, I'm sorry. I'm very tired, and this was a lot of typing for 2:30 a.m. ...