Killer bee vs. Hebi Sasuke

[Unorthodox]

The genjutsu sasuke used was with his Mangekyou though. We can't say that he would be able to pull that off in 3 tomoe

Itachi used genjutsu on Bee and it worked perfectly.

right also didnt see much of a change from sasuke ms them 3 tomoe genjutsu wise

 

[Kamui Sama]

Itachi used genjutsu on Bee and it worked perfectly.

I'm not saying it won't work but Bee getting "stunned for 8 seconds" and getting blitzed is another thing. If i remember correctly Bee was able to break out of Itachi's genjutsu and react to Itachi's shuriken attack with his seven swords

 

[Optimistic]

I'm not saying it won't work but Bee getting "stunned for 8 seconds" and getting blitzed is another thing

Bee could've easily been killed the moment he got caught on this page.

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he didn't realize he was in a genjutsu until, he saw crows if Itachi was bloodlusted Bee would've died in the illusion. In order for Bee to break out he and the 8 tails must be aware that they're in one.

 

[Kamui Sama]

Bee could've easily been killed the moment he got caught on this page.

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he didn't realize he was in a genjutsu until, he saw crows if Itachi was bloodlusted Bee would've died in the illusion. In order for Bee to break out he and the 8 tails must be aware that they're in one.

I guess you are right. Then again this is Itachi's signature genjutsu we are talking about, not Sasuke's.

 

[Gagster]

Bee could've easily been killed the moment he got caught on this page.

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he didn't realize he was in a genjutsu until, he saw crows if Itachi was bloodlusted Bee would've died in the illusion. In order for Bee to break out he and the 8 tails must be aware that they're in one.

Sasuke isn't Itachi now is he?

None of Sasuke's attacks harm Bee in the slightest. Bee stomps every version of Sasuke without Ama.

 

[shelke]

^ Deidara was hit by both 3T genjutsus - from Itachi and from Sasuke. He found the Genjutsu effects from this level of Sharingan to be exactly the same.

 

[Optimistic]

Sasuke isn't Itachi now is he?

Same level genjutsu was used in the same way: from the eyes.

Madara isn't Itachi, Kakashi(with sharingan) isn't Itachi yet they are able to cast genjutsu via 3T eye sight.

The 1st battle is strict kenjutsu, Sasuke was able to intercept all of Bee's strikes but due to not being physically fit for battle he got hit by the last thrust. A healthy Sasuke would avoid that and counteract, the thrust Bee did with his sword leaves himself wide open. Sasuke wins the 1st and can win the 2nd, no one is getting stomped.

 

[Unorthodox]

I guess you are right. Then again this is Itachi's signature genjutsu we are talking about, not Sasuke's.

^ Deidara was hit by both 3T genjutsus - from Itachi and from Sasuke. He found the Genjutsu effects from this level of Sharingan to be exactly the same.

agreed at shelke thats what they always say when it comes to genjutsu sasuke 3 tomoe genjutsu=Itachi's

 

[Kamui Sama]

Same level genjutsu was used in the same way: from the eyes.

Madara isn't Itachi, Kakashi(with sharingan) isn't Itachi yet they are able to cast genjutsu via 3T eye sight.

The 1st battle is strict kenjutsu, Sasuke was able to intercept all of Bee's strikes but due to not being physically fit for battle he got hit by the last thrust. A healthy Sasuke would avoid that and counteract, the thrust Bee did with his sword leaves himself wide open. Sasuke wins the 1st and can win the 2nd, no one is getting stomped.

In terms of pure kenjutsu it was pretty clear that KB > Sasuke. Killer bee was about to KILL him in that encounter.

Anyway I'm leaning to Sasuke winning scenario 1 High difficulty against base bee. However, Samehada will be a valuable asset to him. People saying he gets stomped with it is funny Lol

As for scenario 2 i'm giving it to Bee, I see Manda being more of an obstacle than anything and with v1 unrestricted without the summon Bee has the advantage

 

[Optimistic]

In terms of pure kenjutsu it was pretty clear that KB > Sasuke. Killer bee was about to KILL him in that encounter.

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I'm talking strictly on the kenjutsu segment where bee aimed for a vital part but Sasuke reacted.

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Sasuke parried all his attacks, but was not physically fit for battle so he couldn't counter the last thrust. Killer Bee is better due to be able to use different swords professionally but Sasuke clearly outclassed him when he wasn't using the 7 sword dance and parried his attacks while being injured. Sasuke clearly wins mid diff he's in CS2 for crying out loud who's much faster and stronger than base Sasuke.

 

[A v i]

^ Quite the opposite. I have yet to see a single line supporting anything for Bee. Bee stomps is BS reasoning.

Bee canonically did it so there is no changing it with lame excuses.Any Bee beats any Sasuke below MS.

 

[Unorthodox]

Bee canonically did it so there is no changing it with lame excuses.Any Bee beats any Sasuke below MS.

stawp bee is wrecked in both scenarios i already explained

 

[KidGamer65]

Bee canonically did it so there is no changing it with lame excuses.Any Bee beats any Sasuke below MS.

Base Killer B canonically stomped Hebi Sasuke?

 

[A v i]

Base Killer B canonically stomped Hebi Sasuke?

As far as the level of his skill goes I don't think Hebi Sasuke is on a whole new level (especially not when summons are restricted)compared to the Sasuke that fought Base Bee to stand upto someone who overwhelmed him along with his team.

 

[KidGamer65]

As far as the level of his skill goes I don't think Hebi Sasuke is on a whole new level (especially not when summons are restricted)compared to the Sasuke that fought Base Bee to stand upto someone who overwhelmed him along with his team.

Hebi Sasuke has Orochimaru's powers, can use snakes to block attacks, has the Curse Mark which increases physical ability and he won't be injured this time like he was against B when he fought him in the manga.

Those are large differences. Not to mention CM2 increases his durability.

 

[Bronze]

Hebi Sasuke has Orochimaru's powers, can use snakes to block attacks, has the Curse Mark which increases physical ability and he won't be injured this time like he was against B when he fought him in the manga.

Those are large differences. Not to mention CM2 increases his durability.

Well, the only healing ability he can get from Orochimaru is his body shedding, and that takes huge amount of his chakra. So, using it 2 or 3 times deletes most of his chakra.

Raiton infused with Bee's sword gives it a cutting strike surpasses Futon.

 

[shelke]

Bee canonically did it so there is no changing it with lame excuses.Any Bee beats any Sasuke below MS.

No he didn't. Already covered that part in my detailed post. Better read it up.

 

[A v i]

Hebi Sasuke has Orochimaru's powers, can use snakes to block attacks, has the Curse Mark which increases physical ability and he won't be injured this time like he was against B when he fought him in the manga.

Those are large differences. Not to mention CM2 increases his durability.

I said his skill to be more accurate his swordsmanship which has almost nothing to do with those aspects.I admit the fact that those points definitely helps Sasuke to close some gap b/w him and Bee but they are only good for dragging the battle a little longer than what it took during their last battle.Bee can combine his element with his swords against which his durability is useless.Sasuke lost most of his chakra after using Oro's rebirth so I don't think it could help him much.

No he didn't. Already covered that part in my detailed post. Better read it up.

I'll read it after a while.

EDIT: I saw your post about S1, those are really good points and your post made me belive that Sasuke could do much better than what I actually think but I still don't think he can win this match.

+rep.

 

[Gagster]

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I'm talking strictly on the kenjutsu segment where bee aimed for a vital part but Sasuke reacted.

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Sasuke parried all his attacks, but was not physically fit for battle so he couldn't counter the last thrust. Killer Bee is better due to be able to use different swords professionally but Sasuke clearly outclassed him when he wasn't using the 7 sword dance and parried his attacks while being injured. Sasuke clearly wins mid diff he's in CS2 for crying out loud who's much faster and stronger than base Sasuke.

What fight where you watching? I've haven't seen a more one-sided fight in the entire series.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Scenario 1, Sasuke wins

2, Sasuke gets stomped on.