Hagoromo gave Madara the Rinnegan.

[davidou]

I always found it weird that Hagoromo didnt mention to Naruto the truth about chakra.

Always=4 chapters ; I'll have to weigh your words in the future.

 

[Kurama999]

Do not mix our real world theory with Naruto manga.
Naruto manga itself is standalone and had nothing to compare with; such as our real world science physic facts
Kishi himself (with some help, as he had mentioned) created the whole new world order of Ninja.
What is impossible; such as kamui dimension, etc; is made possible in Naruto manga.

 

[Samest]

LoL
the panel says it itself
Mixing chakra he brought out SO6P chakra
Hago didnt give him anything.

 

[az137445]

Hagoromo clearly mentioned speaking to someone before Naruto and Sasuke, and the only other person who is known to have had hagoromo's Chakra is Madara himself.

That's how Sasuke got his rinnegan. He got Ashura's chakra from the Senju DNA, and summoned Hagoromo's chakra and met him.

Hagoromo never spoke to Madara and hence did not give Madara the rinnegan at his own accord. Or else Madara would have known the connection between him and Sasuke having similar sharingans/rinnegans through being the reincarnation of Indra. "There might be a connection between us. Something beyond blood (clan)" - Madara (Mangapanda, chapter 674, pg. 9

Also, Sasuke did not get Ashura's chakra through Senju DNA. Yes, Kabuto implanted Hashirama's cells into Sasuke, but Kabuto did that because of Hashirama's unique regenerative properties; Sasuke was on the verge of death. Remember that Hashirama is no longer the reincarnation of Ashura, which currently presides inside Naruto. This is the same reason why Obito, Danzo, etc. never formed the rinnegan with Hashirama's DNA.

When Hagoromo said something about Naruto's opinion of Hagoromo might differ from Naruto's forerunner, Hagoromo wasn't saying that he met and spoke with Naruto's predecessor(s), he was simply referring to the varying opinions and rumors of the Sage of Six Paths enshrouded in myth; for example, Kakashi previously thought in Part 1 that the Sage was purely fiction. I think it can be safe to say that the "forerunner" Hagoromo was telling Naruto about is either Madara or Hashirama. It's most likely Madara as he's the most power hungry, the most knowledgeable about the Sage and his family, and misinterpreted the ideals and cautionary warnings of the Sage.

 

[Sunstorm]

Combining Senju and Uchiha simply isn't enough to get the rinnegan (Obito, Danzo). You need Hagoromo's chakra, or Hagoromo wouldnt have soecifically said that.

What we've been told so far is that you need EMS + Senju cells + Near-death-moment to unlock rinnegan. Both Obito and Danzo only had MS and only one eye at that ( Danzo's other eyes weren't MSs ).

 

[az137445]

What we've been told so far is that you need EMS + Senju cells + Near-death-moment to unlock rinnegan. Both Obito and Danzo only had MS and only one eye at that ( Danzo's other eyes weren't MSs ).

Nah, what you just said is what Madara implied. As what Hagoromo said, Madara came close to his power (and Kaguya's power) and obtained his chakra by combining Indra's and Ashura's chakra. The rest about having an EMS, both eyes, or simply a regular sharingan for that matter is merely speculation. Those conditions might be true, but the most important thing is to mix the Sage's sons chakras in order to produce the father's chakra.

 

[-ahhimane-]

Then Madara must have fapboy about Hagoromo. But he didn't.

 

[EdoItachi]

Combining Senju and Uchiha simply isn't enough to get the rinnegan (Obito, Danzo). You need Hagoromo's chakra, or Hagoromo wouldnt have soecifically said that.

Yes but he had EMS Obito and Danzo didn't. EMS is the closest stage to rinnegan not to mention he said he awakened it shortly before his death. So to obtain it the way he did takes a great amount of time obviously.

 

[Harry Balzac]

So he gave Madara the rinnegan, then tells naruto and sasuke that madara must be defeated? Makes a lot of sense.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

So he gave Madara the rinnegan, then tells naruto and sasuke that madara must be defeated? Makes a lot of sense.

It's called Regretting giving the evil guy nearly infinite power.

 

[Harry Balzac]

It's called Regretting giving the evil guy nearly infinite power.

You would think Hagoromo would have mentioned that.