I'm starting to doubt anymore deaths

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Knowing that Kishi allows Obito, 5 Kages, Kakashi spamming Kamui and now after Naruto ruined Gai awesome death which all remain alive all due to the plot, I'm truly doubt that no one else will die and Kishi might as well pull his ass and revive Neji or Troll us with one character building up leading to their deaths but got plot shielded .

The Death in Naruto doesn't mean shit no more, everything start to become meaningless the moment Rinnetensie/ Kabuto with Edo Armies were introduced, and every one who was once the most feared and the most powerful shinobi all lost their reputation and some respect as a shinobi thus they all got ruined when Kishi kept shatting on every Naruto Characters.

All the hokage shouldn't been brought back after getting trolled which doesn't stick up the title of the Hokage.

So yeah, I highly doubt we'll get anymore death except Obito which doesn't count by the way since he was the antagonist and declared this War. Kishi doesn't have the ballz to kill of characters compare to the Greatness of Hunter x Hunter, Onepiece MarineFord ( In the Interview, Oda stated he will kill off 1 of the strawhats in the next 2 arcs), Attack on titan etc.
 
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Yeah, much as I really love Gai as a character I was really disappointed that he survived, that's just classic wimpy Kishimoto bullcrap. I agree, I very much doubt that any of the main characters are going to die.
 

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Yes...I agree.... I feel Kishi is afraid to kill off certain characters... After the tragedy that took place with that young man after Itachi died. :( Bless the young child's soul.
 

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There have been many good guy deaths throughout the manga, I am happy Gai was spared, his death would have been pointless.

The idea is that Naruto can save his friends now, if he doesn't then he really wouldn't be much of a hero.
 

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There have been many good guy deaths throughout the manga, I am happy Gai was spared, his death would have been pointless.

The idea is that Naruto can save his friends now, if he doesn't then he really wouldn't be much of a hero.
The idea is this is War, not everything should follow according to Naruto promises, this makes him look perfect which is a biggest problem with Naruto character is that he has no fail aspect. Some people must die in order to make this arc good and allow Naruto prove his endurance of his pain and willingly to not give up and proves his ninja way.

All these people you claim to be who dies in this war are nothing but mere fodders which doesn't count. Yes many people died in this series, but this series start to grow stale and boring when this war arc doesn't have any momental deaths and climatic feeling which is a shame because a final arc is suppossed to be the greatest arc of all.
 
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Naruto doesn't have to save every single person. People die in a war, anf that's what Neji's death was meant to represent, buy one death is nothing when they're fighting the strongest characters ever.

Gai would have gone out with everyone's respect and the 8th gate's hype wouldn't have gotten tattered, imo.

The deaths that were in the manga were great and added a lot of deptg to the characters, now they just seem to stay alive to hype Naruto.

Half of the edo's purpose was to hype Naruto's new power.

Kishi is focusing too much on him alone and the other characterssuffer for it.
 

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The idea is this is War, not everything should follow according to Naruto promises, this makes him look perfect which is a biggest problem with Naruto character is that he has no fail aspect. Some people must die in order to make this arc good and proves Naruto his endurance of his pain.

All these people you claim to be who dies in this war are nothing but mere fodders which doesn't count. Yes many people died in this series, but this series start to grow stale and boring when this war arc doesn't have any momental deaths and climatic feeling which is a shame because a final arc is suppossed to be the greatest arc of all.
Your wrong.

Fodders DO count, people getting drained and left as corpses provides disturbing images. And in war not everyone dies, some survive and some are left crippled like Gai and Kakashi are.

Also its rather cheap and lame to sell an arc based solely on deaths rather then development and good action.

And the story doesn't need deaths to show Naruto enduring, he has endured an entire life of crap. The war is him making good on his promises, it gets rather redundant if the hero can never keep his word and fails at everything he does.

He has to succeed somewhere or he wouldn't be a hero.

Neji was enough, the point was made that not everyone can be saved. That story has been told, its the finale, now he saves his friends.
 

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There have been many good guy deaths throughout the manga, I am happy Gai was spared, his death would have been pointless.

The idea is that Naruto can save his friends now, if he doesn't then he really wouldn't be much of a hero.
I agree there, Naruto has been using the "What kind of Hokage would I be if I can't even save one friend?" tag line concept since Sasuke left. I see it as a rite of passage leading towards Naruto's dream of becoming Hokage. He couldn't save Neji earlier but has now reached the point that he can do that for his friends. I find this idea is supported right when Naruto brings Gai back to Lee and Gaara tells Naruto "When you become Hokage .... Let's be Allies."
I sort of like the thought of no more deaths. It makes me feel like Naruto has finally come to full maturation to take on the title of Hokage.
 
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Your wrong.

Fodders DO count, people getting drained and left as corpses provides disturbing images. And in war not everyone dies, some survive and some are left crippled like Gai and Kakashi are.

Also its rather cheap and lame to sell an arc based solely on deaths rather then development and good action.

And the story doesn't need deaths to show Naruto enduring, he has endured an entire life of crap. The war is him making good on his promises, it gets rather redundant if the hero can never keep his word and fails at everything he does.

He has to succeed somewhere or he wouldn't be a hero.

Neji was enough, the point was made that not everyone can be saved. That story has been told, its the finale, now he saves his friends.
Fodders doesn't add the depth feeling to this story, it just doesn't effect anything that revolves in this war.

This war needs main character deaths but only it handled the most meaningful way to die, and get the proper development they deserve.

Neji death was the worst death because how can you care to explain to me that Neji who was neglected and fodderized in the whole Shippuden but then he was killed off in a single chapter without any buildups and development in this series. His death was absolute random.

it's as you said " cheap and lame to sell an arc based solely on deaths rather then development and good action."

Gai was the perfect example for his Awesome deaths, you may think his death would be in vain, but this allows him to buy more time for Naruto to show up with his powerup.
 

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Naruto doesn't have to save every single person. People die in a war, anf that's what Neji's death was meant to represent, buy one death is nothing when they're fighting the strongest characters ever.

Gai would have gone out with everyone's respect and the 8th gate's hype wouldn't have gotten tattered, imo.

The deaths that were in the manga were great and added a lot of deptg to the characters, now they just seem to stay alive to hype Naruto.

Half of the edo's purpose was to hype Naruto's new power.

Kishi is focusing too much on him alone and the other characterssuffer for it.
Not really, Gai's death would have been pointless, he can gain respect and live to enjoy it.

Its not like Gai wanted to die when he used the 8 gates, he would rather live but did it because he didn't have a choice, he was willing to die to save others so people WILL respect him.

And of course the manga is focusing on Naruto, the story is ending, all stories focus on the main character at the end, if it didn't then he wouldn't be the main character.

I agree there, Naruto has been using the "What kind of Hokage would I be if I can't even save one friend?" tag line concept since Sasuke left. I see it as a rite of passage leading towards Naruto's dream of becoming Hokage. He couldn't save Neji earlier but has now reached the point that he can do that for his friends. I find this idea is supported right when Naruto brings Gai back to Lee and Gaara tells Naruto "When you become Hokage .... Let's be Allies."
I sort of like the thought of no more deaths. It makes me feel like Naruto has finally come to full maturation to take on the title of Hokage.
Exactly. It was proof that he can keep his word, and he has finally become worthy of the position of Hokage.

He failed to save Neji, but he was able to save Gai.
 
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Fodders are expendable just like the zetsu are, they give no emotional appeal because no one can relate to them, and no one knows them, unlike the main/side characters, imo.

Even if not everyone dies, the fact remains that people will die, not everyone is going to be crippled alonr.

The deaths of characters gives developement to those around them and to the characters themselves. Just look at the death if Jiraiya. That's the type of emotion Kishi should be giving with the deaths of characters. He could have done that with Gai, but instead used him to hype Naruto's new power.

Naruto endured for like one chapter in the manga. Iruka stopped the pain.Naruto's still naive and still thinks that he could save everyone, he didn't learn anything from Neji's death even if that's what it was for. He can't always save everyone, but he still doesn't get that.

Gau's death wouldn't have been pointless btw. He had stalled Madara long enough for Sasuke and Naruto to get their power up, he had successfully protected his friends, he had beat the most powerful being in the NV.

Any death now will pale in comparison. Gai would have gone out knowing he succeeded.

Naruto isn't the only character, he isn't God, that's why I dislike his character. Every character is made into some sort of zombie just to hype him. They lose their own development for it just like Neji and Gaara.

Neji's death was n vain and Naruto only needs to stop Madara to succeed.
 
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Fodders are expendable just like the zetsu are, they give no emotional appeal because no one can relate to them, and no one knows them, unlike the main/side characters, imo.

Even if not everyone dies, the fact remains that people will die, not everyone is going to be crippled alonr.

The deaths of characters gives developement to those around them and to the characters themselves. Just look at the death if Jiraiya. That's the type of emotion Kishi should be giving with the deaths of characters. He could have done that with Gai, but instead used him to hype Naruto's new power.

Naruto endured for like one chapter in the manga. Iruka stopped the pain.Naruto's still naive and still thinks that he could save everyone, he didn't learn anything from Neji's death even if that's what it was for. He can't always save everyone, but he still doesn't get that.

Neji's death was n vain and Naruto only needs to stop Madara to succeed.
One Chapter?

Did you read the chapter Regrets, the long one with the flashbacks where Naruto broke down crying over the fodders, he had the flashbacks of his life.

His parents are dead, his teacher is dead, his best friend betrayed him, he had to endure pain for 11 years, where nobody helped him or did anything for him.

And he had a monster inside him that made his life miserable.

Those fodders clearly did lead to emotional development as Naruto cried over them and reflected on all the regrets in his life.
 

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One Chapter?

Did you read the chapter Regrets, the long one with the flashbacks where Naruto broke down crying over the fodders, he had the flashbacks of his life.

His parents are dead, his teacher is dead, his best friend betrayed him, he had to endure pain for 11 years, where nobody helped him or did anything for him.

And he had a monster inside him that made his life miserable.

Those fodders clearly did lead to emotional development as Naruto cried over them and reflected on all the regrets in his life.
We saw one chapter of it, in the first one.

Like he's the only one, my god they luve in a place where peiple kill for a living yet he's the only obe who get's sympathy. He didn't even know he had Kurama, but nvm I see what you mean. Like I said there's been other Jinchuurikis and people with worse lives.

That's why Naruto is such a bad character to me. He's crying over people he wouldn't have thought twice about killing if he felt they were wrong. He doesn't evwn know any of them and yet he cries over them, but not Neji or Kakashi.
 

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LMAO You put Onepiece there on the list !!?? Seriously? Not to mention when it comes to death of important characters? You gotta be kidding me. The only ones who died in that show are ace and wb,when it comes to important character.

AOT,you mean the show in which mainly fodders die to deliver the fanservice? Hmm...seems legit. Tbh,only 5-6 important named characters died in this show.

HxH is legit though. But still not many important char. died.

And if we are talking about fodders,then with 60000 shinobi's died in this war. And in the show,many named important character died from both sides. Sure in war arc
it looks like that isn't the case but The ALLIANCE HQ [named important char.] and NEJI died. And Gai's one was arguable but then again it was explained perfectly. And Edos added a sense of emotional touch. And no,no char. got ruined.

OT- *RINNE TENSEI* will happen & I'll love it.
 
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