Mind altering substances: Yay or nay?

[Forest]

I don't want to feel like a big man. I don't need to to realise what are facts and what are not. I don't have to be a big man to understand the danger of some subtances, and the greater danger of the "drungs don't harm" thought.

I'm not here as a specialist on anything but there is such a thing as free will, and there are studies and proven scientific evidence for both good uses and harms of some substances. Obviously MOST of the substances that are illegal Are extremely volatile and no one in their right mind would defend them. The problem due to bad logic and language is that the majority of people who advocate that Marijuana, psilocybin, are not bad substances get grouped together with the term "Drugs". Making everyone think of the bad stuff like Heroin, crack, Ecstasy, molly etc..... For your information THE FACTS ARE, that there is scientific evidence arguing both the good things and bad effects of using weed. People have free will, it is up to them to choose where they will stand on that issue. There is nothing wrong with them believing that it doesn't harm. IF they themselves want it so be it. You can't say you wish for them to be eliminated, you are stooping to a mentality of a low life junkie thinking of mugging people for money.

 

[Booker]

Ironic isn't it?

Yet you still believe the trash they teach in your narcotics abuse class; Ha.

Why wouldn't I?

It's not like its propaganda. These are actual medical textbooks.

 

[ShishaMastah420]

Why wouldn't I?

It's not like its propaganda. These are actual medical textbooks.

Look at your signature; Now go look in the mirror. Ask yourself? Across the road or down the bridge?

But let's be less sarcastic.

Why don't classes accept books that are not current and up to date?

 

[Waindo]

TV is an mind altering supstance aswell, why do we only mention narcotics/drugs/weed.

 

[xPHARAOHx]

Someone gave me a Neg Rep because my post speaks of ignorants.

I don't care about you using drugs. I drink and I don't smoke. I pop medicine when I'm sick. >.> I don't encourage any whom have not tried drugs as many older than me say it's addictive and negative consequences such as financial and family.

That spelling speaks of ignorance if anything, lol. I'm just kidding dude. Nobody should neg you just because you don't agree with using drugs though.

 

[Waindo]

Look at your signature; Now go look in the mirror. Ask yourself? Across the road or down the bridge?

But let's be less sarcastic.

Why don't classes accept books that are not current and up to date?

Becaouse marijuana would destroy farmaceutical industry if it was a wider knowledge.

 

[Wolfus]

I'm not here as a specialist on anything but there is such a thing as free will, and there are studies and proven scientific evidence for both good uses and harms of some substances. Obviously MOST of the substances that are illegal Are extremely volatile and no one in their right mind would defend them. The problem due to bad logic and language is that the majority of people who advocate that Marijuana, psilocybin, are not bad substances get grouped together with the term "Drugs". Making everyone think of the bad stuff like Heroin, crack, Ecstasy, molly etc..... For your information THE FACTS ARE, that there is scientific evidence arguing both the good things and bad effects of using weed. People have free will, it is up to them to choose where they will stand on that issue. There is nothing wrong with them believing that it doesn't harm. IF they themselves want it so be it. You can't say you wish for them to be eliminated, you are stooping to a mentality of a low life junkie thinking of mugging people for money.

I'm aware of free will, as well as the medicinal use of SOME very specific drugs. Though I hope you realize that this medicinal use of some substances is also specific, and thus, the good part of them is almost 100% wasted(not used, at least) when consumed the way they are.

Now, returning to free will- As I said, I couldn't care less if people used it to death. But spreading the FALSE and stupid idead of "drugs don't harm" and managing to convice some people to use it, because of the supposed abscense of harmful effects, that I can't stand.

Free will doesn't mean you're able to change facts. If something is proven, you an believe in any crap, it doesn't matter. It doesn't change reality, and reality is made of facts, not opinions.
So, basically, some people go against proven facts, and spread a stupid and HARMFUL idea(as it eventually makes other people use it).

I hope I proved my point.

 

[Forest]

I'm aware of free will, as well as the medicinal use of SOME very specific drugs. Though I hope you realize that this medicinal use of some substances is also specific, and thus, the good part of them is almost 100% wasted(not used, at least) when consumed the way they are.

Now, returning to free will- As I said, I couldn't care less if people used it to death. But spreading the FALSE and stupid idead of "drugs don't harm" and managing to convice some people to use it, because of the supposed abscense of harmful effects, that I can't stand.

Free will doesn't mean you're able to change facts. If something is proven, you an believe in any crap, it doesn't matter. It doesn't change reality, and reality is made of facts, not opinions.
So, basically, some people go against proven facts, and spread a stupid and HARMFUL idea(as it eventually makes other people use it).

I hope I proved my point.

the proven facts say many things my friends, they are not all negative...... go see for your self. (once again talking about weed lol)

 

[ShishaMastah420]

Becaouse marijuana would destroy farmaceutical industry if it was a wider knowledge.

O_O

Lies, they don't say that in my medical books.

***Pharmacuetical.

 

[Waindo]

Or call it hemp/industrial weed...I wasn't thinking bout THC rich one.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Anyway, there are 2 types of substance users:
1) People who do it for fun - they don't care about the risks
2) People who have issues- they won't admit they are wrong

I've seen studies both pro and contra weed for example. Even science can be manipulated.

 

[ShishaMastah420]

Anyway, there are 2 types of substance users:
1) People who do it for fun - they don't care about the risks
2) People who have issues- they won't admit they have issues

I've seen studies both pro and contra weed for example. Even science can be manipulated.

You forgot the lab rats and the goverment PoV's.

Oh also Scooby and Shaggy.

 

[Wolfus]

the proven facts say many things my friends, they are not all negative...... go see for your self. (once again talking about weed lol)

The proven facts(which by the way, I have read most(from reliable sources, of course) and consulted my biology teacher) support my idea, not the one I'm atacking.
The way people smoke weed: As I said, it basically wastes all of "good" part that could be used. Can it be used for medicinal purposes? Yes. Does smoking it, then, benefits your health? NO.

Now, my post isn't restricted to weed only.

 

[Heisenberg284]

I smoke pot with my band, but that's it

 

[Waindo]

I don't smoke neither for fun nor issue related, I just like the felling of total muscle relaxation after my saturday bench session . Though I admit I was a pothead long ago..(young and crazy lfmao)

 

[xPHARAOHx]

I will, once trash is removed from my life. If drug addicts hadn't caused me problems before, then maybe, MAYBE, I wouldn't have such hatred.
But that doesn't change the fact that it's stupid. But I don't care if you kill yourself with it. In fact, I would be glad.

What I care about is: Stupid hippies denying scientific proven facts regarding drugs effects, and convincing other people to use it because the "government is lying", or other pathetic excuses.

I've actually done my research, and have written a paper on LSD and it isn't an addictive substance, nor does it cause you to do the stupid horrible things that plenty of legal prescription drugs do. Alcohol, and prescription drugs that have far worse side effects than marijuana or LSD, along with a few other psychoactive hallucinogens like mushrooms, peyote, or LSZ, etc..

Here's an interesting statistic. Since marijuana has been legalized in Colorado the Denver crime rate has dropped. Property crime has dropped 14%, the homicide rate has dropped 66%, and robbery rate has dropped 7%. This was in 2013 as well, since then things have only gotten better.

 

[Scooby Doo]

You forgot the lab rats and the goverment PoV's.

Oh also Scooby and Shaggy.

So which one are you? Lol

I don't smoke neither for fun nor issue related, I just like the felling of total muscle relaxation after my saturday bench session . Though I admit I was a pothead long ago..(young and crazy lfmao)

That falls under the category of fun- or you can call it whatever you wish

 

[ShishaMastah420]

I've actually done my research, and have written a paper on LSD and it isn't an addictive substance, nor does it cause you to do the stupid horrible things that plenty of legal prescription drugs do. Alcohol, and prescription drugs that have far worse side effects than marijuana or LSD, along with a few other psychoactive hallucinogens like mushrooms, peyote, or LSZ, etc..

Here's an interesting statistic. Since marijuana has been legalized in Colorado the Denver crime rate has dropped. Property crime has dropped 14%, the homicide rate has dropped 66%, and robbery rate has dropped 7%. This was in 2013 as well, since then things have only gotten better.

Homocide down by 66% in correlation with the legalization of a known mind altering substance? Say it ain't so!

Uncle Sam must be slacking up ther in Denver.

 

[xPHARAOHx]

Not in the sense that drugs are defined in. Using word play is not an accurate arguement.

Ex.

Weapons are banned in schools. I can use a spoon as a weapon. Therefore, spoons should be banned in schools.

He means any drug can be. Any over the counter, any prescription, coffee, tea, red bull even. These are all mind altering substances. They all have the ability to change your mood.

 

[Waindo]

Dude wtf, Hoffmans aren't addictive, but that does not change the fact ppl abuse it. My friend's brain is equivalent to a brain of a goldfish now becaouse of that bullcrap.