Ideals of the Rivals !!

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First of all let me introduce myself guys, Im Raz and glad to be part of the the community. This thread is about my personal opinion, so feel free to share your opinions as well. Basically I am going to discuss about the final clash between Naruto & Sasuke.

As the previous generation Hashirama & Madara’s friendship is similar to that of Naruto & Sasuke. Kishi has also repeated certain things about their bonds:

  • One of them wanted to save the other by trying to understand them but the other refused

  • They had Indra/Ashura reincarnated in them

  • One of them possessed superior skills than the other in the early childhood but later the other one caught up with hardwork and co-operation

So why will it not repeat again the same way ?

About the prophecy –:
The elder toad said to naruto:
"You will fight a young man whose power lies within his eyes”​
The toad cannot be talking about Madara, who is from a different generation from the main character nor can it be Obito.

In my opinion this battle will conclude the hatred and unite the narutoverse as a whole, so it is logical it will be Sasuke as his power heavily relies on his eyes (Especially his rinnegan). He is also the second person to attain Rinnegan with Tomoes following Kaguya. Madaras power relies more on the Juubi/God Tree after becoming the host.

Now let me explain:
First they became friends trying to understand each other. Later their friendship ended with the Uchiha cutting ties with the other.

Then they both start working towards a common goal in kind of co-operation. Madara agrees to work with Hashirama and creates the leaf village, just as Sasuke co-operating with Naruto to defeat their common enemy ‘Madara Uchiha’.

Then despite having a co-operation with and agreeing in Hashirama’s idelas, Madara starts to lose the reliability on the safety of the Uchiha Clan when the leadership changes after Hashirama.

Of course, Sasuke have agreed to team up with Naruto to help ‘The Alliance’ against Madara. It does not mean he accepts Naruto’s ideals. The conversation between Naruto & Hagoromo stated that he wants to protect his friends. In the case of Sasuke it’s still a mystery what was his answer to Hagoromo.

A question may arise, why Hagoromo would share a part of his powers with Sasuke if his ideals are contradicting with Naruto’s. It’s simple as it has been stated by Hagoromo himself,

“ His been watching his boys reincarnations fighting for generations, because of the fact he chose Ashura as the successor and left Indra in the dark “​

Sasuke’s answer can be most likely the restoration of his clan/ending the suffering in the world. Which is still not clear but Hagoromo must have seen a possibility of ending the ‘curse of hatred’, in Sasuke’s ideals as well.

Now the final fight between Naruto & Sasuke must have a valid reason, a few possibilities I see are:

To become Hokage – Naruto’s dream is to become Hokage and accepted by the villagers, Sasuke wants to become Hokage to restore his clan. Although it’s a possibility there is a high chance Naruto would not be serious or rather foregoing the title to save his friend.

The tailed beasts – Naruto has already befriended the beasts and it also goes along his ideals of “protecting his friends”. As stated by Hagoromo Ninshuu & Tailed beasts are to increase the understanding between people. When naruto was in BM with the help of Kyuubi Chakra he was able to communicate with others, they were able to sense his deep feelings as well.

As also stated by Nagato Uzumaki:
"If you don't share someone's pain, you can never understand them”

Which is true in a deep sense, I also believe that the Kyuubi chakra Naruto handed over to everyone will play a major role than chakra boost helping them to share their deep feelings and thoughts with each other letting them to understand each other.

Despite that fact Sasuke may not get along with the idea, considering chakra & Ninshuu is also one of the main reasons for the chaos in Narutoverse he may try to get rid of the beasts to achieve equality. In this scenario both of their ideals are in contradiction, which will be the source for their final battle & also ending ‘The Curse of Hatred’.


:. Thanks for your time & Feel free to leave comments .:
 

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Ooh, great first thread for a new member like yourself.
 

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after reading it .. a thought occurred to me .. what if sasuke attained the rinnegan with tomoes so that he could revive the entire uchiha clan with the gedou art of rinne rebirth .. maybe this new visual jutsu allows one to revive them without losing their life .. this just suddenly occurred to me ( juxt sharing my ideas) =D
 

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Interesting. We shall see
 

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after reading it .. a thought occurred to me .. what if sasuke attained the rinnegan with tomoes so that he could revive the entire uchiha clan with the gedou art of rinne rebirth .. maybe this new visual jutsu allows one to revive them without losing their life .. this just suddenly occurred to me ( juxt sharing my ideas) =D
There is a possibility but the ocular prowess of his new eye is still a mystery. I personally think Naruto will play a part in the restoration of the Uchiha Clan as well, from a point of view its the distrust of the village which made a coup detat. Both of them as part of yin-yang will contribute to it.

Ooh, great first thread for a new member like yourself.
Thanks..Hope you enjoyed it !!
 
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There is a possibility but the ocular prowess of his new eye is still a mystery. I personally think Naruto will play a part in the restoration of the Uchiha Clan as well, from a point of view its the distrust of the village which made a coup detat. Both of them as part of yin-yang will contribute to it.

that makes sense .. since the gedou art of rinne rebirth requires a lot of chakra !!
 

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don't read but seems amazing

Good Job
 

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NIce First Thread man, And yeah, it seem plausible!
 

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This is a great thread. Two points, though:

1. Sasuke's response to the sage was likely not to restore his clan, but to create a village without the flaws of the current system: remember his thoughts after getting stabbed by Madara?

2. Agreed that Sasuke and Naruto might have different notions for the fate of the bijuu. If you meant that destroying them would end the cycle of hatred, I disagree. The tailed beasts are an indirect result of the theft of the shinju fruit. Destroying them would only reinforce the wrong, not correct it.
 

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I think so too. Though Sasuke is fighting alongside the alliance in this war, he is not siding with them. He said before that his goal is to eliminate the tailed beasts. Naruto will not allow that because they are his friends.
It may be repetitive, but i kind of want madara to tempt sasuke just like the sound did and
get him to kill naruto since he has all the tailed beasts in him. What do you think? Too cliche?
 

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This is a great thread. Two points, though:

1. Sasuke's response to the sage was likely not to restore his clan, but to create a village without the flaws of the current system: remember his thoughts after getting stabbed by Madara?

2. Agreed that Sasuke and Naruto might have different notions for the fate of the bijuu. If you meant that destroying them would end the cycle of hatred, I disagree. The tailed beasts are an indirect result of the theft of the shinju fruit. Destroying them would only reinforce the wrong, not correct it.

Sasuke would definitely create a village different which is equal to everyone than the current one, but restoring his clan is also one of the main priorities he have as one of the last survivors & Hagoromo could not have missed that detail.

Sorry about that..I should have been more clear by getting rid of the tailed beasts,i was trying to tell that Sasuke does not seem to get along with the tailed beasts and may try to keep them far away from the current system which is colliding with Naruto's view of point. The tailed beasts are supporting along to Naruto as he is the child of prophecy, but others opinions are not the same (The past actions proves it). Naruto looks at them as his comrades but Sasuke looks at them as a source of destruction (Considering the future after their generation) without 'proper guidance'.
 

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I think so too. Though Sasuke is fighting alongside the alliance in this war, he is not siding with them. He said before that his goal is to eliminate the tailed beasts. Naruto will not allow that because they are his friends.
It may be repetitive, but i kind of want madara to tempt sasuke just like the sound did and
get him to kill naruto since he has all the tailed beasts in him. What do you think? Too cliche?

It can be a twist if Madara can make Sasuke co-operate with him but after the Uchiha Massacre & trying to kill him, I doubt Sasuke would want to work with him. Sasuke have already past the limits of taking orders/opinions from anyone else, he has matured through time just like Naruto but his actions of achieving it is different from him as well.
 

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Nice thread and agreed. And also welcome to NB
 
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