Fodder Sarutobi clan members have stronger Katon feats than Madara

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This calculation was inspired by this thread:

I've decided to prove that Hiruzen and the rest of his clan members have the best feats of hottest katon temperature.

Here is the feat:

What the fodder Sarutobi clan members did was create a large volume of concrete so large that it dwarfs the Juubi.

Now the members of Iwagakure did before the feat was trap the Juubi in a cubic stone cage so that the members of Kirigakure can fill up the stone cage with water using their suiton. The Juubi is around 1 km tall, so the volume should be around 1000*1000*1000 = 1000000000 cubic meters.

In order to make concrete, water needs to be evaporated.



According to this article, concrete is around 15% water. Thus you multiply the volume by 0.15 to get the volume of water. 1000000000*.15 = 150000000 cubic meters

Density of water is 1000 kg/m^3. Thus the mass is 150000000*1000 = 150000000000 kg

There are 55.55 moles per kilogram in H2O.

150000000000*55.55 = 8332500000000 moles



Vaporization is 40.65 kilojoules per mole.

8332500000000*55.55 = 462870375000000 kJ = 462870375000000000 J

1 megaton of TNT explosive = 4.184E+15 J

462870375000000000/4.184E+15 = 110.6 megatons of TNT equivalent for the combined power of 14 no-name Sarutobi clan members.

So divide 110.6 by 14 to get the single power of a Sarutobi clan jonin, which is 7.9 megatons.

7.9 megatons = 7900000 tons of TNT equivalent.

Conclusion:

I did a calculation a while back of Sakura's punch , demonstrating that she outputs 170 tons of TNT equivalent energy. So this feat that the Sarutobi clan did literally outputs 46,000 times more energy than her punch.

Madara has no feats that suggest that he can vaporize a large volume of water as the Sarutobi clan did, thus giving each fodder Sarutobi clan member much better credibility in Katon. With that being said, Hiruzen (and his father Sasuke) is known to be strongest Sarutobi clan members. Thus, they would automatically get scaled to this amount of power.

Thus, making Hiruzen king of Katons.

#believethehype
 

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It's anime, there's no logic, though it's a neat explanation.
 

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Nahh.

The Uchiha specialise in Katon, their potent chakra makes for the best ones. Calculations are a waste of time and have brevity, Kishimoto takes science very lightly in the manga and this would be no different.
 

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It's funny because you actually tried using real life logic here.
 

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You and your damn calculations.
 

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Nahh.

The Uchiha specialise in Katon, their potent chakra makes for the best ones. Calculations are a waste of time and have brevity, Kishimoto takes science very lightly in the manga and this would be no different.

That's not an argument. If you wanna debunk this, you need to prove that an Uchiha have the Katon feats to do the same thing they did. Which you can't, because they have none.
 

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Don't approach this manga in a logical stance, you will just get yourself flamed lol.
 

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That's not an argument. If you wanna debunk this, you need to prove that an Uchiha have the Katon feats to do the same thing they did. Which you can't, because they have none.

It's hilarious that you believe a man who writes fiction for a living uses real-world calculations and draws to scale. That amuses me.
 

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It's funny because you actually tried using real life logic here.

This^^^

Why to people try to use real scientific data to prove a point in a world where people walk on water, summon giant talking beasts, and blow fire from thier mouths?

:vincent:
 

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It's hilarious that you believe a man who writes fiction for a living uses real-world calculations and draws to scale. That amuses me.

When did I provide a picture scaling in this thread? I didn't. It just proves that you just don't read threads and spam to up your post count.
 

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Nahh.

The Uchiha specialise in Katon, their potent chakra makes for the best ones.

The Sarutobi clan also specializes in Katon. Invalid point.

Calculations are a waste of time and have brevity, Kishimoto takes science very lightly in the manga and this would be no different.

So he takes science very lightly? Why would he calculate the distance of techniques then? Why did he say Raikages Punch weights a ton? Why would he explain the science behind the oil/water explosion of Troll Kage and how Gaara used gold because its a great conductor? Come on man. Just stop.
 

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Uchiha have strong chakra, foddertobi clan does not.

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When did I provide a picture scaling in this thread? I didn't. It just proves that you just don't read threads and spam to up your post count.

It's called an example. You didn't have an argument against my point so you just stepped around it.
 

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Uchiha have strong chakra, foddertobi clan does not.

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Strong chakra =/= stronger jutsu

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It's called an example. You didn't have an argument against my point so you just stepped around it.

Right, Kishimoto knows nothing about science. That's why he's incorporated real science various times throughout the manga, such as Jiraiya's Oil Combo, or Gaara's method in defeating the Mizukage. Please man, you're just making yourself look bad.
 
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