Kyuubi POWER not a handout

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he didn't that was a justu from itachi that allowed sasuke to use amaterastu with his eye on obito. sasuke awakened the ms at the end of the talk.

u might be right still sasuke earned nothing and naruto has earned all his power ups except the recent one
 

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Sasuke earned his MS by fighting itachi, & EMS by fighting the gokage/danzo.

Naruto earned his SM/KCM through training, & BM through the obito fight.

sasuke earned MS and EMS how? he just felt emotion to unlock MS ppl feel emotion everyday and obito gave him itachis eyes so he could unlock EMS naruto took kuramas powers
 

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u might be right still sasuke earned nothing and naruto has earned all his power ups except the recent one

Sasuke earned his MS, he had to kill itachi to gain it.

& He never would've unlocked EMS if he didn't overuse his MS [which means he fought for it/earned it].

sasuke earned MS and EMS how? he just felt emotion to unlock MS ppl feel emotion everyday and obito gave him itachis eyes so he could unlock EMS naruto took kuramas powers

He fought for it, meaning he earned it.

The emotions or what have you is irrelevant because he wouldn't be in those situations if not for using his previous powers.
 

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ur butthurt because u cant argue ur point now if u wanna argue how sasuke got all his powers handed to him we can do that to guy

It's stupid to argue with you. You have been omitting all that you don't like, and only select what you like. Then draw in conclusion in your own liking that completely contradict to all the facts that you disregard. Is there a point to use a brain cell on you when you call a main character is a fodder? Call a guy a girl? It's not my job to fix you up. It's up to yourself to get a complete a clear thinking. Yours is one sided emotional thinking.
 

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Sasuke earned his MS, he had to kill itachi to gain it.

& He never would've unlocked EMS if he didn't overuse his MS [which means he fought for it/earned it].



He fought for it, meaning he earned it.

The emotions or what have you is irrelevant because he wouldn't be in those situations if not for using his previous powers.

even if sasuke didnt use his MS one time he would have unlocked EMS wen he got itachis eyes also he didnt even beat itachi really itachi let him win he was running and screaming at the end lol
 

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Naruto earned his power until KCM, after that Kurama gave him
 

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It's stupid to argue with you. You have been omitting all that you don't like, and only select what you like. Then draw in conclusion in your own liking that completely contradict to all the facts that you disregard. Is there a point to use a brain cell on you when you call a main character is a fodder? Call a guy a girl? It's not my job to fix you up. It's up to yourself to get a complete a clear thinking. Yours is one sided emotional thinking.
listen guy i have seen u make threads saying sasuke has the juubi eyes and kaguyas power and u wanna talk about one sided lol ur not to bright guy and u cant argue anything because i am right. sasuke would be a fodder if he didnt have handouts u take away sage chakra from naruto he still has BSM that he earned from training. so maybe u need to fix yourself guy my thinking is clear
 

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even if sasuke didnt use his MS one time he would have unlocked EMS wen he got itachis eyes also he didnt even beat itachi really itachi let him win he was running and screaming at the end lol

But he did use it, he didn't implant his eyes when they were fine he did it when he was blind, meaning he used his power before he gained more [AKA he earned it].

Itachi not wanting to win is actually the best example of an extreme training session with his brother, he forced sasuke to kill him [which in turn made him stronger].
 

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But he did use it, he didn't implant his eyes when they were fine he did it when he was blind, meaning he used his power before he gained more [AKA he earned it].

Itachi not wanting to win is actually the best example of an extreme training session with his brother, he forced sasuke to kill him [which in turn made him stronger].

are you crazy or stupid guy? itachi has been using his MS and going blind for the longest so he was the one that really would have earned EMS by ur logic and thats so dumb of u to say. naruto uses sage mode so much so he deserves and power up to that right? im only using ur logic guy lol and itachi wanted to brg out the essence of oro out of sasuke so he could seal it he didnt force sasuke to kill him he died by exhausting his chakra sasuke didnt beat him dont forget sasuke was screaming and running from itachi at the end
 

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listen guy i have seen u make threads saying sasuke has the juubi eyes and kaguyas power and u wanna talk about one sided lol ur not to bright guy and u cant argue anything because i am right. sasuke would be a fodder if he didnt have handouts u take away sage chakra from naruto he still has BSM that he earned from training. so maybe u need to fix yourself guy my thinking is clear

If its not a jubi eye, then feel free to tell me its a normal rinnegan. Manga shows clearly what it looks like. And I really don't give a crap about lord sasuke. I bashed sasuke for his garbage s/t new jutsu. I can argue all power are earned. Naruto the same. All depends on how you view the "earn" part
 

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are you crazy or stupid guy?

Refrain from the childish language, are you not more mature than that?

Itachi has been using his MS and going blind for the longest so he was the one that really would have earned EMS by ur logic and thats so dumb of u to say.

Lmao my logic suggests nothing like that, please learn to comprehend sentences.

Itachi definitely earned the right to gain EMS, so did sasuke, one brother doesn't have more of a right than the other, they both have an equal right to gain the powerup.

naruto uses sage mode so much so he deserves and power up to that right?

Does SM cause any permanent effects when overused? I didn't think so. Don't use two completely different examples to try & counter a specific point.

im only using ur logic guy lol

& You're using it poorly so go back & try again.

and itachi wanted to brg out the essence of oro out of sasuke so he could seal it he didnt force sasuke to kill him he died by exhausting his chakra sasuke didnt beat him dont forget sasuke was screaming and running from itachi at the end

Blah blah blah, itachi still wanted sasuke to kill him & take his eyes, nothing else matters. It was meant to train him & it did just that so any excuses you try to make are also, just that.
 

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The Kyuubi is not his own power. This was already stated by Yamato and Kakashi during the rasenshuriken training when they said he needed to create his own unique jutsu and not rely on the Kyuubis power all the time. Its a handout.

They said that because the last time he used the Kyuubi's power he nearly killed himself. Now that he has control over it, it's his power. Deal with it!
 

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Refrain from the childish language, are you not more mature than that?



Lmao my logic suggests nothing like that, please learn to comprehend sentences.

Itachi definitely earned the right to gain EMS, so did sasuke, one brother doesn't have more of a right than the other, they both have an equal right to gain the powerup.



Does SM cause any permanent effects when overused? I didn't think so. Don't use two completely different examples to try & counter a specific point.



& You're using it poorly so go back & try again.



Blah blah blah, itachi still wanted sasuke to kill him & take his eyes, nothing else matters. It was meant to train him & it did just that so any excuses you try to make are also, just that.

u clearly said sasuke earned EMS because he used MS to much so he earned the right to itachis eyes thats stupidity lmao and sage mode can turn u into stone if u intake to much and cant control it thats the draw back and itachi didnt want sasuke to take his eyes he was hoping sasuke will kill him then accidentally kill obito when he laid eyes on him so he couldnt find out the truth about him therefore he would return to konoha itachi was not trying to train sasuke after that fool he even stated he was surprised sasuke mastered susanoo and he asked naruto why hasnt sasuke returned to the leaf. does that sound like someone who wanted to give up his eyes and train sasuke?
 

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The Kyuubi is not his own power. This was already stated by Yamato and Kakashi during the rasenshuriken training when they said he needed to create his own unique jutsu and not rely on the Kyuubis power all the time. Its a handout.

they wanted naruto to get stronger because everytime the kyuubis power was used it weakened the seal. naruto didnt have kuramas power at the time he eventually got strong enough to take kuramas chakra which in turn gave him a power up so it was not a handout
 

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If its not a jubi eye, then feel free to tell me its a normal rinnegan. Manga shows clearly what it looks like. And I really don't give a crap about lord sasuke. I bashed sasuke for his garbage s/t new jutsu. I can argue all power are earned. Naruto the same. All depends on how you view the "earn" part

its a normal rinnegan fool it looks different but so does madaras EMS compared to sasukes and every uchiha had different looking MS sasukes rinnegan is different because it comes directly from the sage and he has different powers because its just in one eye like how obito and kakashi had different powers sort of. sasuke has a regular rinnegan i dont think there is another type of rinnegan like the sharigan jus different patterns thats all
 

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its a normal rinnegan fool it looks different but so does madaras EMS compared to sasukes and every uchiha had different looking MS sasukes rinnegan is different because it comes directly from the sage and he has different powers because its just in one eye like how obito and kakashi had different powers sort of. sasuke has a regular rinnegan i dont thinkthere is another type of rinnegan like the sharigan jus different patterns thats all

Oh yea, jubi eye is the normal rinnegan then. All ms look different. Funny so6p eye look exactly like madara rinnegan. And sasuke's look just like jubi and kaguya
 

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u clearly said sasuke earned EMS because he used MS to much so he earned the right to itachis eyes thats stupidity lmao

Again you fail to interpret sentences properly. Sasuke trained for the right to gain a powerup, yes he went blind due to that training but he deserves it after what he went through.

and sage mode can turn u into stone if u intake to much and cant control it thats the draw back

Lmao that's completely different because you still lose sight even if you can control mangekyou powers perfectly. Once you're a perfect sage you never have to worry about turning into a stone again, & that's done through training.

and itachi didnt want sasuke to take his eyes he was hoping sasuke will kill him then accidentally kill obito when he laid eyes on him so he couldnt find out the truth about him therefore he would return to konoha

Another lame excuse. [ ]

itachi was not trying to train sasuke after that fool he even stated he was surprised sasuke mastered susanoo

Lmao what does mastering susanoo have to do with wanting him to be trained? Like itachi had any idea what kind of MS jutsus sasuke would possess...Lol

Itachi used sasuke's hatred to make him stronger, he was waiting for sasuke to kill him, & he wasn't going to go easy on him.

Everything shown to us proves that itachi's only purpose was to make sasuke stronger [AKA train him, get it through your dense skull].

and he asked naruto why hasnt sasuke returned to the leaf. does that sound like someone who wanted to give up his eyes and train sasuke?

Scan I provided shows you clear as day that itachi knew that sasuke would obtain his eyes, & it shows you that itachi wanted to do things for sasuke with his death [meaning he expected sasuke to kill him]. KA was meant for him, itachi would never have prepped it if he didn't expect sasuke to take his eyes.
 

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Oh yea, jubi eye is the normal rinnegan then. All ms look different. Funny so6p eye look exactly like madara rinnegan. And sasuke's look just like jubi and kaguya

the juubi didnt have the rinnegan fool nor did kaguya so how could his eye look like theirs? use common sense man and madaras eye doesnt look like hago's nor does he have the same powers. and if ur saying sasuke has kaguya eyes ur basically saying he is stronger than hago which makes u a sasuke wanking fool. sasuke doesnt not have juubi eye only the juubi has that. and kaguya had a 9 tomoe sharigan and byukagan sasuke has neither
 

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naruto still earned the power of kurama sasuke earned nothing

Whether he earned it or not its stil a handout. Aand your so damn biased saying sasuke earned nuffin when the dude lost his bro to get ms, he suffered trauma so how didn't he earn it?
 
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