Hagoromo's stature lessened in the Shinobi world

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With all of this Naruto and Sasuke conflict going on I figured I would create a thread with a different topic to ease the base a little knowing the anticipation of the new manga release tonight will lead to more Sasuke and Naruto threads, so I decided to discuss another topic.

I know Hagoromo is still top 10 and one of the most powerful ninja in the world, butI was just wondering since Kaguya Oototsuki was introduced in the manga and when Hagoromo himself admitted inferiority to his mother regardless of the fact he is the Sage of 6 Paths and whatnot, I was just thinking how badly degraded he was these past few chapters, not only was he revealed to have assistance in fighting the Juubi, the assistance of his brother who appeared from thin air.​
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The beast was sealed insise us, which was a bit of a let down. So this means that the Hagoromo split the Juubi in half and took on equal portions of the Juubi within themselves much like the Madara and Naruto situation. Obito stole a portion of the tailed beasts chakra from Madara and they now have portions of the tailed beasts within them which I find weird. So I wonder what happened to the other brothers portion of the tailed beasts? Maybe flashbacks will reveal this and how the tailed beasts halves were combined again, or were they?

Moving on it also is a shocker that not only did he have assistance with the Juubi, and he split the halves of the tailed beasts meaning he was not the full Juubi Jinchuriki, but he is also inferior to his mother which he admits to below. Naruto asks him if she was stronger then him and Hagoromo admitted that she was stronger then anyone else.​

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Conclusion: Hagoromo, the almighty Sage defeated the Juubi with the assistance of his brother, whom he split the Juubi in half with and sealed within himself, he is also not the most powerful being in the ninja world, his mother was. Incomplete Juubi host, defeated it with assistance, and is inferior to his mother.
 

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I'm lazy to search, but the Viz said that the Juubi was sealed only in Hagoromo.

nvm I found it.

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I'm lazy to search, but the Viz said that the Juubi was sealed only in Hagoromo.

nvm I found it.

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Other then that I agree, he was inferior to his mother and he had assistance in defeating the Juubi.
 

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Lessened, yes, but by what degree? We don't know how the battle went about. And besides, it took a combined army to fight the Juubi in its incomplete form. Even if the Sage had help from his brother, to be able to fight a god is an incredible feat.
 

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Only Kaguya is stronger than him. He's still a god-like figure, though.
 

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Like mentioned above he had the full Juubi. And maybe his stature was lessened with him not being the strongest and all, but whatever. Together with his brother they defeated a God, which is an incredible feat.
 

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Like mentioned above he had the full Juubi. And maybe his stature was lessened with him not being the strongest and all, but whatever. Together with his brother they defeated a God, which is an incredible feat.

I agree

Only Kaguya is stronger than him. He's still a god-like figure, though.

Indeed

Lessened, yes, but by what degree? We don't know how the battle went about. And besides, it took a combined army to fight the Juubi in its incomplete form. Even if the Sage had help from his brother, to be able to fight a god is an incredible feat.

He is still powerful and the mighty Sage of Six Paths, but I was just implying that he has been a bit overrated and exaggerated, not a thing was known of his mother till then and she swipes his title.
 

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He found peace for a little bit
 

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Well, pre jin sage was probably not all that powerful until he became the juubi host. He's a complete host btw, the viz corrects this. Still bit of shocker that his mother is stronger than him.
 

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Incorrect translation. Viz says they sealed it inside of Hagoromo.


Edit: He still has his moon-making hype. He was clearly on an insane level of power.
 

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Incorrect translation. Viz says they sealed it inside of Hagoromo.


Edit: He still has his moon-making hype. He was clearly on an insane level of power.
And that was on his deathbed. Imagine prime Hagoromo power as jinchuuriki of the Juubi. Incredible strength.
 

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And that was on his deathbed. Imagine prime Hagoromo power as jinchuuriki of the Juubi. Incredible strength.


That kinda sets up Naruto verse as the strongest bar DBZ and Gurren Laggan. However, I'm not entirely convinced that you can use the rinnegan's full power(bar some special ones like Limbo) when being a juubi jin. For instance, Madara did not use preta path to absorb Naruto's lava style: ransenshuriken.
 

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That kinda sets up Naruto verse as the strongest bar DBZ and Gurren Laggan. However, I'm not entirely convinced that you can use the rinnegan's full power(bar some special ones like Limbo) when being a juubi jin. For instance, Madara did not use preta path to absorb Naruto's lava style: ransenshuriken.
A distinct possibility, but it could have something to do with him only in possession of 1 Rinnegan eye. Perhaps Preta Path comes from the other eye or some shit like that.

But NV overall is underrated in power. Hagoromo had a sword that could shape worlds, created the moon on his deathbed, and we know his mom's power eclipses even his own. We need a top scale reality warper and then we can really move up the ranks.
 

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A distinct possibility, but it could have something to do with him only in possession of 1 Rinnegan eye. Perhaps Preta Path comes from the other eye or some shit like that.

But NV overall is underrated in power. Hagoromo had a sword that could shape worlds, created the moon on his deathbed, and we know his mom's power eclipses even his own. We need a top scale reality warper and then we can really move up the ranks.


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If Hagoromo lives up to his hype, he, and by extension Kaguya, are reality-warpers.
 
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