minato vs guy

[HNIC]

I can have a weaker and slower throw than other people, but if my timing is superb then that becomes irrelevant, especially if it's to do with something involving targets - I could have the weakest and slowest throw in a group yet I'm the only one that hits the target. Accuracy is something genin already have, they learn to throw kunai from young age, accuracy shouldn't even be mentioned - if lee didn't have throwing accuracy then he really should give up being a ninja.

Nice timing just meant that Lee could have either thrown that kunai too early or too late. But Lee timed it perfectly, nothing more to it, you are overthinking it way too much.

You still have to take into account what credited this accuracy. Speed comes into when realizing the perfect time in tossing the kunia, as the slightest misstep could throw it off. Being that one has to TOSS a kunia, the speed and strength here is important. Minato lacks strength and hand speed in comparison to a Gated Lee.

 

[HNIC]

You re-read, the cloud ninja clearly said:

"on that yellow paper, it's the shunshin no jutsu! No doubt about it, it's the yellow flash".

Obviously that cloud ninja recognised that minato's kunai was the key to his teleportation jutsu. You realize kishi describes teleportation as speed in this manga, so of course they knew he was fast. The cloud ninja wouldn't mention "shunshin no jutsu" if he didn't know about the teleportation/FTG.

Your interpretation of what that meant means nothing when Ay comes on to understand the ability AFTER seeing

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Ay himself didn't know what or else this page wouldn't have been drawn afterwards.

 

[Gold Lightning]

You still have to take into account what credited this accuracy. Speed comes into when realizing the perfect time in tossing the kunia, as the slightest misstep could throw it off. Being that one has to TOSS a kunia, the speed and strength here is important. Minato lacks strength and hand speed in comparison to a Gated Lee.

Minato already showed his kunai throwing timing when he beat Obito. If he threw the kunai too late or too early then he would have been kamui'd.

Again you are talking about meaningless hand speed, it means nothing!!!

And you keep talking about 6 Gate Lee's strength instead of base. If that's the case then lets compare Minato's strength boost in sage mode. Strength is not something Minato lacks in any way, shape or form.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Your interpretation of what that meant means nothing when Ay comes on to understand the ability AFTER seeing

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Ay himself didn't know what or else this page wouldn't have been drawn afterwards.

Ay already knew, kishi just drew that page to show that Ay knew what he was dealing with.

And why don't you do yourself a favour and turn to the next page. That same cloud ninja fodder again comments on Minato's FTG when he says "He left his teleport technique mark on the eight tails tentacle". Key wond being teleport, the fodder knows how Minato's jutsu works, he was just surprised that Minato tagged Bee.

You are being ridiculous if you don't think these guys don't have enough intel on Minato. They already wanted to retreat before the fight started. They know about his nickname and reputation.

 

[HNIC]

Minato already showed his kunai throwing timing when he beat Obito. If he threw the kunai too late or too early then he would have been kamui'd.

Again you are talking about meaningless hand speed, it means nothing!!!

And you keep talking about 6 Gate Lee's strength instead of base. If that's the case then lets compare Minato's strength boost in sage mode. Strength is not something Minato lacks in any way, shape or form.

Obito has no speed feats in terms of what we are focused on. Obito was moving towards Minato, which wasn't the case regarding Gai and Lee tossing the kunia.

Hand speed isn't important, as that's what's used to place an attack. Gai has superior hand speed, which is what allows him to react to opponents movement. Minato isn't a technical of a fighter with slower hand speed. As while he could possibly appear before Gai in blitzing speed, him striking him would be a fail.

Madara strikes Minato before he could.
Bee intercepted Ay before Minato could
Bee pulled a kunia out at the same time as Minato did.

Minato use of ftg also relies on an opponent who can't react faster than him. Gai has the hand speed advantage. Another example is their encounter with Obito.

Watch Minato's encounter and than look at Gai's similar reaction in base, while Minato had to use ftg. His hand speed wasn't enough.

 

[HNIC]

Ay already knew, kishi just drew that page to show that Ay knew what he was dealing with.

And why don't you do yourself a favour and turn to the next page. That same cloud ninja fodder again comments on Minato's FTG when he says "He left his teleport technique mark on the eight tails tentacle". Key wond being teleport, the fodder knows how Minato's jutsu works, he was just surprised that Minato tagged Bee.

You are being ridiculous if you don't think these guys don't have enough intel on Minato. They already wanted to retreat before the fight started. They know about his nickname and reputation.

No, if that was the case Ay would have stated that the moment Minato spread his kunia and wouldn't have charged recklessly. He strategized AFTER seeing Minato use ftg. The reputation doesn't mean they have full intel, especially seeing as all had fell victim to Minato prior to this.

What fool knowing how a jutsu works, thinks about how it works after being owned?

 

[Gold Lightning]

You are comparing Minato and Gai's encounters with Obito despite Minato having no prior knowledge while Gai had all the info possible on him to be able to fight him. We've seen numerous times of Obito activating his kamui before Gai could actually touch Obito, at least Minato was able to land a hit on him. Madara struck a weakened edo, 1 armed handicapped Minato, and Minato paused when encountering Bee, If Minato wanted to kill him then he would have, why would Minato kill someone that he just praised and said has potential and compliment Ay on having a fine family. U_U

You really think Ay uses strategy? Do you read the same manga I do, the same Ay who sacrifised his arm against Sasuke's black flames for no valid reason? The same guy that blasts through walls when there is a door right next to him? Ay is an idiot, he doesn't use strategy, mainly because he's too powerful to need it.

You know what just forget it, the cloud ninja clearly mentions minato's teleportation jutsu, even calls it teleportation ytr you still think they had no knowledge. You go on about hand speed like it even means anything, the fact that you think it's wise for Gai to engage an FTG user in CQC is absolutely hilarious. Even if Gai lands a couple hits, all minato needs to do is pat him once and it's over.

 

[Haizaki]

Lol, you know how the fanboy mentality works. They can't bear to think of their idol losing so they spout all kinds of nonsense.


OT: 7G Gai isn't winning this. Lol.

Lool some of these guys though

I agree 7th Gates loses this

Base Gai takes base Minato without summons. 7G Gai should blitz and stomp.

That can never happen

I see you can't keep with fact

I see you don't have sense if you truly agree with what Gold lightning said...Minato has a chance against 8th Gates?..take a look at this one more time

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Common sense will tell you that Minato doesn't stand a chance against the 8th Gate

counter it then. When minato teleports home, what does gai do then?

Counter what?...why waste my time...If Minato teleports home is that a fight?..he ran away..he simply lost

I agree 7th gates loses

The way you people think though?..Maddy compared his fight against 8th Gates Gai to Hashi( when he was EMS Madara)...and you honestly believe Minato stands a chance...Lool

 

[Haizaki]

Smh kingpin90 stop wasting your time with these guys...fanboys don't accept the truth

 

[HNIC]

You are comparing Minato and Gai's encounters with Obito despite Minato having no prior knowledge while Gai had all the info possible on him to be able to fight him. We've seen numerous times of Obito activating his kamui before Gai could actually touch Obito, at least Minato was able to land a hit on him. Madara struck a weakened edo, 1 armed handicapped Minato, and Minato paused when encountering Bee, If Minato wanted to kill him then he would have, why would Minato kill someone that he just praised and said has potential and compliment Ay on having a fine family. U_U

You really think Ay uses strategy? Do you read the same manga I do, the same Ay who sacrifised his arm against Sasuke's black flames for no valid reason? The same guy that blasts through walls when there is a door right next to him? Ay is an idiot, he doesn't use strategy, mainly because he's too powerful to need it.

You know what just forget it, the cloud ninja clearly mentions minato's teleportation jutsu, even calls it teleportation ytr you still think they had no knowledge. You go on about hand speed like it even means anything, the fact that you think it's wise for Gai to engage an FTG user in CQC is absolutely hilarious. Even if Gai lands a couple hits, all minato needs to do is pat him once and it's over.

Sigh.

This is why I don't exchange with fan boys.

Minato has a grasp of Obito's ability, I'm referring to him nearly falling victim to his use of chains and Obito effortlessly grasping his hand. There are many similarities that we see in the two encounters, I'll add the scans later. That's what to consider.

Ay mentioned a strategy after witnessing Minato use ftg. It was simple, but still a strategy. Please stop trying to twist manga scans, we blantly see Ay regroup himself after Minato used ftg and note it's ability. He didn't know this prior to this altercation

He had no idea that he teleports to kunia, he grasps this afterwards. Similarly that cloud ninja says shunshin which, if I'm not mistaken, means body flicker. Something many shinobi can do.

The point is Minato isn't landing a direct blow, not saying Gai would necessarily either as Minato could try to ftg away. This fight is rather complicated. Gai has an edge when cosndering gates though

 

[A v i]

I see you don't have sense if you truly agree with what Gold lightning said.

There is nothing wrong with what GL said and only hole in his argument is that he was overlooking the fact that already preparded markings of Minato are considered as preparation in almost every VS thread.

Minato has a chance against 8th Gates?..take a look at this one more time

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Common sense will tell you that Minato doesn't stand a chance against the 8th Gate.

I can easily tell by looking at your posts that you clearly didn't read his post.You are bringing the arguments that were never stated by GL.He literally never said that Minato fights 8th gate head on and beats Guy.GL clearly said that Minato runs away from 8th gate Gai whiich means that he was indirectly admitting the fact that Minato stands 0 chance against 8th gate Gai if they were to fight eachother head on.Apart from using prepared markings of Minato, there is nothing wrong with what GL said.

 

[slimreaper]

Smh kingpin90 stop wasting your time with these guys...fanboys don't accept the truth

I in no way fanboy minato and I believe he wins. Its just a bad match

 

[HNIC]

I in no way fanboy minato and I believe he wins. Its just a bad match

It's not a bad match up, it's a very interesting match in fact. This is the only opponent who can really go CQC with Minato. People just happen to underestimate Gai's hand speed and how important it is in a fight against Minato. This fight isn't as simple as some users seem to think.

 

[Haizaki]

There is nothing wrong with what GL said and only hole in his argument is that he was overlooking the fact that already preparded markings of Minato are considered as preparation in almost every VS thread.
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And what did I do?..smh you my friend clearly didn't understand my post...I highlighted what was wrong with his post..next time understand before replying

I can easily tell by looking at your posts that you clearly didn't read his post.You are bringing the arguments that were never stated by GL.He literally never said that Minato fights 8th gate head on and beats Guy.GL clearly said that Minato runs away from 8th gate Gai whiich means that he was indirectly admitting the fact that Minato stands 0 chance against 8th gate Gai if they were to fight eachother head on.Apart from using prepared markings of Minato, there is nothing wrong with what GL said.

not even going to bother..I highlighted what was wrong in his post...he said Minato goes home ..didn't he leave the battlefield?..he lost...Once again read and understand before posting

 

[Valhorus]

That proved that a toss from a Gated Lee, who faster hand speed, had the ability to throw a kunia in place. A student knows his teacher, predicting his movements can easily be done.

Lee is credited for that, which is why Minato says " nice timing Lee" to think Minato would be able perform this feat exactly the same in 1-vs-1 is ridiculous.

You are quite slow aren't you ? That kunai was needed for Minato to get the orbs . If Gai rushes towards Minato is he gonna need to throw a kunai in the sky to avoid ? You haters are ignoring the facts . The fact only Night Moth/Gai can hit Minato .

 

[A v i]

And what did I do?..smh you my friend clearly didn't understand my post...I highlighted what was wrong with his post..next time understand before replying



not even going to bother..I highlighted what was wrong in his post...he said Minato goes home ..didn't he leave the battlefield?..he lost...Once again read and understand before posting

No one ever mentioned anything about Minato standing a chance against Gai yet you were using that as an argument to justify your reply to GL.

I see you don't have sense if you truly agree with what Gold lightning said...Minato has a chance against 8th Gates?..take a look at this one more time

Common sense will tell you that Minato doesn't stand a chance against the 8th Gate

Read your own posts b4 talking nonsense.

 

[HNIC]

You are quite slow aren't you ? That kunai was needed for Minato to get the orbs . If Gai rushes towards Minato is he gonna need to throw a kunai in the sky to avoid ? You haters are ignoring the facts . The fact only Night Moth/Gai can hit Minato .

You were not part of the discussion and have no clue what was being addressed. Please, don't come for me.

 

[Touken]

Someone pls tell me how Minato beats Gai when 7G Gai's striking speed is as fast as Rikudo Madara's, and Rikudo Madara was able to land 3 strikes well before SM Minato could react, and SM Minato's reflexes are far greater than base Minato's.

 

[Valhorus]

You were not part of the discussion and have no clue what was being addressed. Please, don't come for me.

Can't you read the quaote ? I will say it like that . Armless Edo Minato wraped 2 times and avoided the hit from 8th gate Gai . You are gonna tell me Alive Minato on his full power , speed , reflexes cannot wrap 1 time and keep doing that to avoid Gai's hits ? If u think for 1 sec u will see Minato need to warp once to avoid 8th Gate Gai and in his Edo Form he Wraped twice and avoided it do the math ? Don't show me the Madara's case cuz it is diff . Minato will lose if he goes with rasengan against 8th gate Gai . Minato can keep up with 8th gate speed . However Night Moth/Gai is diff story .

PS : Not gonna bother wiith that anymore . Night Moth will defeat Minato , anything else won't .

 

[HNIC]

Can't you read the quaote ? I will say it like that . Armless Edo Minato wraped 2 times and avoided the hit from 8th gate Gai . You are gonna tell me Alive Minato on his full power , speed , reflexes cannot wrap 1 time and keep doing that to avoid Gai's hits ? If u think for 1 sec u will see Minato need to warp once to avoid 8th Gate Gai and in his Edo Form he Wraped twice and avoided it do the math ? Don't show me the Madara's case cuz it is diff . Minato will lose if he goes with rasengan against 8th gate Gai . Minato can keep up with 8th gate speed . However Night Moth/Gai is diff story .

PS : Not gonna bother wiith that anymore . Night Moth will defeat Minato , anything else won't .

What quote? I don't know who you are. Is this an alter who I was addressing or something? Lol

Stop trying to involve yourself in something that doesn't involve you, especially speaking nonsense irrelevant to the discussion.