[Theory] sasuke uses an advanced form of izanagi updated.

[osba]

Hey, i made this follow up thread to give a solid conclusion to my other thread (

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) which i posted on the day this manga was released.


First i will show you my evidence, then i will show you what i can conclude from this.



"teleport" one:
As you can see on page #9

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sasuke had 2 tomoes left before he made his move.
Then he had to move twice.. once to stick his sword inside of madara and the other to teleport away from him.
On page #11

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you can see that he had no tomoes left and on page #12

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one regenerated.



"teleport" two:
at page 12

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you can see 1 tomoe regenerated, after that there is alot of talking/thinking and then he used izanagi* to move madara into position between him and naruto(which would take 2 rings of tomoe).. (the fact that naruto had to aim the jutsu at him makes me feel like he can not actually perceive what he is doing whilest he is doing it but rather has to plan it in advance.)
then on page 14

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you can see that he has no tomoes left to use, as he used all of it to move madara into place.
at page 15

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quite some time has gone by (you can see from how far the sealing has gone over madara's body) and he has regenerated 2 rings of tomoe



conclusion:
So, the rules to his jutsu are i think:
1: target must be close enough.
2: he needs 1 ring of tomoe for every time he uses izanagi*
3: when he uses izanagi* multiple times in one move, he can not perceive what he is doing.
4: he needs to be in close, or physical contact with whatever he wants to move.
5: in order to have an outside force affect whatever he is doing (say naruto's rasengan) sasuke needs to know in which direction the attack is being used
6: he needs to mentally plan what he is going to do.

*: i think it is izanagi, it could be something else though.

 

[Obítō1]

well good theory hard to tell i don't know maybe he has teleportation or something like this

 

[forgetthename16]

Uhm.. Nice theory. +Rep

But I think you're wrong. I think kishi is just to lazy to draw small tomoes on his rinnegan. I don't think they disappear.

 

[Grimm Of Death]

yeah I'm pretty sure you are wrong

 

[God Of Destruction]

nice work.

 

[Anime Fan]

Thanks for posting this, hope the conclusion is true.

 

[osba]

yeah I'm pretty sure you are wrong

please stay away from this thread with oppinions.. i don't feel like burning people today.

 

[Sentinel of Light Style]

Nice theory, but most likely it's just Kishi and his assistants who feel like it's too bothersome to draw all those tiny comma's every goddamn time. I mean, if you look closely on some of the scans, it's hardly even possible to tell that it is actually a Rinnegan, because the lines are drawn really close to each other.

 

[Conspirator.]

I disagree-after reading the chapter a few times, I believe sasuke's ability is very similar to law's from one piece-he can instantly teleport himself, other people or any other objects where ever he wants(but he has a limited range.) In other words, he can transport/switch anything towards him or away from him depending on the situation and how he attacks.

 

[osba]

I disagree-after reading the chapter a few times, I believe sasuke's ability is very similar to law's from one piece-he can instantly teleport himself, other people or any other objects where ever he wants(but he has a limited range.) In other words, he can transport/switch anything towards him or away from him depending on the situation and how he attacks.

it could be, but that would be like nothing we have seen before in the narutoverse.

 

[Dr Doom]

Very plausible nice work.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Maybe nice observation.

 

[DHOH]

The biggest problem with your theory is that we have never seen Izanagi or Izanami work that way.

Izanagi:

Sasuke didn't get hit or receive and damage, or fatal wounds from Madara. Only one Sasuke was shown at a time, Izanagi usually showed the user being killed and the other reappearing in a different location.

Izanami:

Madara isn't caught in a loop, otherwise he couldn't go into the other dimension.

Also with the tomoe theory:
Everything was contradicted when Sasuke and naruto attack Madara. Your theory indicates Sasuke should've day any tomes left, but his next image showing him having at least six..

More than likely, Sasuke jutsu is some sort of S/T with a range limit.

 

[osba]

The biggest problem with your theory is that we have never seen Izanagi or Izanami work that way.

Izanagi:

Sasuke didn't get hit or receive and damage, or fatal wounds from Madara. Only one Sasuke was shown at a time, Izanagi usually showed the user being killed and the other reappearing in a different location.

Izanami:

Madara isn't caught in a loop, otherwise he couldn't go into the other dimension.

Also with the tomoe theory:
Everything was contradicted when Sasuke and naruto attack Madara. Your theory indicates Sasuke should've day any tomes left, but his next image showing him having at least six..

More than likely, Sasuke jutsu is some sort of S/T with a range limit.

you don't need to die or even get hurt before you can use izanagi, and you can see sasuke having none in the black and white manga slide.

 

[olisa]

You my friend have given the best analysis to date on Sasuke's ability. Bravo!

I've been saying it all along, it's not teleportation or S/T ninjustsu, it's yin release aka bringing form out of nothing, the power of imagination, opposite to Naruto's yang power of life.

Izanagi itself is based on yin release, obito explained it to Konan after he used it. He talked about the Sage's creation of all things technique, how he had to combine the powers of yin (imagination) to create form out of nothing and yang (life force) to bring that form into living existence. And we already know the Sage split his powers in two by yin & yang and gave them to Sasuke and Naruto respectively.

Even the entire MO of sasuke's ability feels a lot like Izanagi. It's definitely the most advanced form of Izanagi. With Izanagi, the reality you can alter is only that which concerns you (thus like casting genjutsu upon oneself) but with Sasukes technique the reality he can alter is everything within a certain range.

I could be completely wrong, but my bet is 100% on something akin to Izanagi as opposed to a S/T tech.

 

[ShinjuMadara]

Nice theory! I had never noticed that the tomoe dissapear until you pointed it out. I guess I read the chapters too fast

But how do you explain Kaguya's eye? It had three sets of tomoe, does that mean she could use it three times?

 

[Vicen]

The last scan in your post clearly shows Sasuke with tomoe.

 

[Zealous Sparks]

It could very well be an advanced form or something akin to Izanagi. Nice theory!

 

[Tdogg]

You my friend have given the best analysis to date on Sasuke's ability. Bravo!

I've been saying it all along, it's not teleportation or S/T ninjustsu, it's yin release aka bringing form out of nothing, the power of imagination, opposite to Naruto's yang power of life.

Izanagi itself is based on yin release, obito explained it to Konan after he used it. He talked about the Sage's creation of all things technique, how he had to combine the powers of yin (imagination) to create form out of nothing and yang (life force) to bring that form into living existence. And we already know the Sage split his powers in two by yin & yang and gave them to Sasuke and Naruto respectively.

Even the entire MO of sasuke's ability feels a lot like Izanagi. It's definitely the most advanced form of Izanagi. With Izanagi, the reality you can alter is only that which concerns you (thus like casting genjutsu upon oneself) but with Sasukes technique the reality he can alter is everything within a certain range.

I could be completely wrong, but my bet is 100% on something akin to Izanagi as opposed to a S/T tech.

I agree it is most likely an advanced Yin release, probably what Izanagi is based off of.

 

[Mr Hiru]

We need more input, but actually it seems like your analysis is on the right track.