[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 674 Discussion and 675 Predictions

[Rasha29]

maybe you don't understand what analyzing means.
I gave you examples of naruto observing his opponent. and you just went around them.

Cael you just don't understand what great battle instinct are and have it confuse with a great battle analyzer, that why your points didn't make enough sense for me to go into detail with.

Naruto would have to be the dumbest person in the whole manga not to be able to notice a hand sign, that he seen another Rinnigan user use (just like he should already know the power of the Rinnigan after fighting against it), over Sasuke and Minato cause they never fought a person who had the rinnigan at the time. Funny thing is Naruto needed plenty of help ninjutsu to defeat Pain then after fighting Pain, Naruto in tail beast mode needed help ninjutsu again from Edo Itachi to defeat Edo Nagoto (if Sasuke already fought against a person, he would have definitely had a plan on how to defeat them after analyzing their abilities before hand).

Then Naruto grabbing his dad Kunai to transport to it when Juuibito attack, is a example of Naruto having great battle instinct, that I talk about him having through out the manga.

In a crucial moment Naruto can think on his feet and pull something out to defeat his opponent cause he go with his gut instinct. It's like guessing and alway making a right chose, which Naruto have done even outside his fights. Like when he took the Chunin written exam (one of my favorite and funnies Naruto episode ever). But that not analyzing your opponents or being able to observe your surrounding, cause if it was Naruto would have figure out he needed to cheat then came up with a plan to cheat and not get caught.

Kishimoto also show that episode that Sakura is a book smart type ninja (that why being a medical ninja was perfect for her), but not a analyzer type ninja that episode as we'll. Not a analyzer type ninja like Shikamaru, Sasuke and Kakashi (but still very smart) or a great instinct type ninja like Naruto (now of days most of the manga hero's or great instinct types, but in the original Yugioh, the main character Yugioh was a analyzer type and his sidekick Joey was a instinct type character).

 

[Cael]

Cael you just don't understand what great battle instinct are and have it confuse with a great battle analyzer, that why your points didn't make enough sense for me to go into detail with.

Naruto would have to be the dumbest person in the whole manga not to be able to notice a hand sign, that he seen another Rinnigan user use (just like he should already know the power of the Rinnigan after fighting against it), over Sasuke and Minato cause they never fought a person who had the rinnigan at the time. Funny thing is Naruto needed plenty of help ninjutsu to defeat Pain then after fighting Pain, Naruto in tail beast mode needed help ninjutsu again from Edo Itachi to defeat Edo Nagoto (if Sasuke already fought against a person, he would have definitely had a plan on how to defeat them after analyzing their abilities before hand).

Then Naruto grabbing his dad Kunai to transport to it when Juuibito attack, is a example of Naruto having great battle instinct, that I talk about him having through out the manga.

In a crucial moment Naruto can think on his feet and pull something out to defeat his opponent cause he go with his gut instinct. It's like guessing and alway making a right chose, which Naruto have done even outside his fights. Like when he took the Chunin written exam (one of my favorite and funnies Naruto episode ever). But that not analyzing your opponents or being able to observe your surrounding, cause if it was Naruto would have figure out he needed to cheat then came up with a plan to cheat and not get caught.

Kishimoto also show that episode that Sakura is a book smart type ninja (that why being a medical ninja was perfect for her), but not a analyzer type ninja that episode as we'll. Not a analyzer type ninja like Shikamaru, Sasuke and Kakashi (but still very smart) or a great instinct type ninja like Naruto (now of days most of the manga hero's or great instinct types, but in the original Yugioh, the main character Yugioh was a analyzer type and his sidekick Joey was a instinct type character).

If I am correct anaylzing : to study (something) closely and carefully : to learn the nature and relationship of the parts of (something) by a close and careful examinatio

are you saying that naruto after observing the scar from the third raikage, and getting some information behind that scar, and using that information as an advantage into defeating the third raikage. that's not analyzing ?

Or After Gamakichi attacked obito with his senjutsu base attack and naruto and the 2nd noticing that the attack would not dissapear, thus coming to the conclusion that obito is weak to senjutsu, is that not analyzing also ?

I am not saying that naruto is on sasuke level when it comes to analyzing, I am just saying that he too have the ability to analyze his situation.

I know what you mean by battle instinct, but he doesn't always just guess and go for it, he also have strategies, and plenty of those can be seen trough the pain arc and some parts of the war.

 

[omuyasha]

epic chapter 5/5

kakashi

He lost his eye ..

sakura

Will she die next chapter or she will fight back ?

zabuza

He's my favourite ..

this chapter was Awesome ..:x3:

da fuq? Zabuza was there??? 0_o? I must have missed that part, I'ma go reread the chapter.

 

[TyrionUchiha]

One thing I'd like to point out is in the panel where it shows Naruto using Magnet Release Rasengan, one of the black chakra balls behind him distorts. My guess is that each ball represents a tailed beast and its power. As for the 10th, I have no idea. Just thought I'd let you all know.

 

[Cael]

One thing I'd like to point out is in the panel where it shows Naruto using Magnet Release Rasengan, one of the black chakra balls behind him distorts. My guess is that each ball represents a tailed beast and its power. As for the 10th, I have no idea. Just thought I'd let you all know.

I have read this chapter so many times and I find it amazing how I miss that, nice find :3

 

[Rasha29]

If I am correct anaylzing : to study (something) closely and carefully : to learn the nature and relationship of the parts of (something) by a close and careful examinatio

are you saying that naruto after observing the scar from the third raikage, and getting some information behind that scar, and using that information as an advantage into defeating the third raikage. that's not analyzing ?

Or After Gamakichi attacked obito with his senjutsu base attack and naruto and the 2nd noticing that the attack would not dissapear, thus coming to the conclusion that obito is weak to senjutsu, is that not analyzing also ?

I am not saying that naruto is on sasuke level when it comes to analyzing, I am just saying that he too have the ability to analyze his situation.

I know what you mean by battle instinct, but he doesn't always just guess and go for it, he also have strategies, and plenty of those can be seen trough the pain arc and some parts of the war.

Are you reading what you are writing Cael, cause you are answering your own question.

Analyzing is what a person do, by deducting there opponents on there own and then coming up with a plan to defeat them base on it.

Not being giving a blue print before hand or help ninjutsu during the fight or on a person then you use other people deduction to defeat him or her even if you gave them information on that person, they still figure them out(of course if you give Naruto data on someone, he would have a chance to defeat them, cause of him already having a large amount of base chakra, then having Natural HGH chakra and Tail Beast steroids to use).

Naruto in the Pain fight was told about three of the Pains abilities by Grandpa frog, then was told about the other powers of the other three Pain and the intervene between almighty push Pain by the slug (let along coming totally prepare for the fight and he still needed Hinata to help him, cause Pain was packing him up and getting ready to go). If Naruto was in the same situation as Jaraiya and didn't know anything about Pain. Naruto would have been kill as soon as stepping into his city (when he fought against Edo Nagato in a more powerful state, it was like he forgot about all the information he was giving on Pain cause he never deducted it for himself).

 

[Cael]

Are you reading what you are writing Cael, cause you are answering your own question.

Analyzing is what a person do, by deducting there opponents on there own and then coming up with a plan to defeat them base on it.

Not being giving a blue print before hand or help ninjutsu during the fight or on a person then you use other people deduction to defeat him or her even if you gave them information on that person, they still figure them out(of course if you give Naruto data on someone, he would have a chance to defeat them, cause of him already having a large amount of base chakra, then having Natural HGH chakra and Tail Beast steroids to use).

Naruto in the Pain fight was told about three of the Pains abilities by Grandpa frog, then was told about the other powers of the other three Pain and the intervene between almighty push Pain by the slug (let along coming totally prepare for the fight and he still needed Hinata to help him, cause Pain was packing him up and getting ready to go). If Naruto was in the same situation as Jaraiya and didn't know anything about Pain. Naruto would have been kill as soon as stepping into his city (when he fought against Edo Nagato in a more powerful state, it was like he forgot about all the information he was giving on Pain cause he never deducted it for himself).

I believe I am done responding to your posts from now on, I never said anything about naruto analyzing anything during pain arc, of course not, he was given information on how each pain works, so he did not need to analyze anything, but once again you went into a subject that I did not say anything about naruto having to analyze, except that I slightly mention the use of strategies. Once again I don't believe you understand fully the definition of the word analyzing , so since we have opposite definition of the word, or different ways of perceiving it, I will stop here, I don't like to participate in a conversation that's not heading anywhere, lets just agree that we both can't see eye to eye and call it quits.

 

[zapp42823]

Re: Kakashi now a fodder ?

you are dreaming my friend

 

[Naruto is Zyzz]

Do you even know what "analytical" and "instinct" mean?
Analytical: relating to or using analysis or logical reasoning.
Instinct:an innate, typically fixed pattern of behaviour in animals in response to certain stimuli.
another definition for instinct, which is what you most likely are referring to, is; a natural or intuitive way of acting or thinking.
from your argument you have concluded that Naruto is not an Analytical fighter and doesn't use analysis too make his decisions. By saying this you are also implying that Naruto does not take into account the different elements, his surroundings and/or the implications of his actions when he is in a fight. I would just like to say that this is a load of shit!
In your second last paragraph you stated that: "In a crucial moment Naruto can think on his feet and pull something out to defeat his opponent cause he go with his gut instinct. It's like guessing and alway making a right chose, which Naruto have done even outside his fights." - The moment you said that "Naruto can think" you contradicted yourself. When someone thinks about something they are taking into account their circumstances and they form a decision based on what they think is the most reasonable thing to do. An instinct is like a reflex you feel that something is right and you do it.

Secondly i would just like to address the terms you use to describe sasuke and Naruto. i will start by saying i agree with you to the extent that sasuke is a great analytical fighter who uses analysis to break down his opponents skills and so on. However the naruto part.. i don't agree with. Naruto may not be an analytical fighter like sasuke which is okay because they are opposites. However Naruto is a critical thinker!! He forms his decisions not based on instincts but by making rational decisions.

This is how he does it: whenever he is in a fix or anything similar while fighting, he first understands the situation, he then goes on to identify what he needs to do to get out of this fix, he then proceeds to thinking about inconsistencies in the opponents ability (such as that time he fought pain after he met the fourth and the time he fought the third raikage), once hes done that is when he somehow gets out of it even if it is sometimes an asspull but whatever, and once he does that the battle is usually over and this is where the TNJ begins..... once this starts he first identifies the importance of ideas and then he goes on too reflect the justification of his own ideas and beliefs (in other words his ninja way)

So from this no matter how much of a retard Naruto can be his also at the same time the dumb-smart guy. He is porbably one of the best critical thinkers in the manga where as sasuke is one of the best analytical thinkers.

Have a nice day! ex oh

 

[Rasha29]

I believe I am done responding to your posts from now on, I never said anything about naruto analyzing anything during pain arc, of course not, he was given information on how each pain works, so he did not need to analyze anything, but once again you went into a subject that I did not say anything about naruto having to analyze, except that I slightly mention the use of strategies. Once again I don't believe you understand fully the definition of the word analyzing , so since we have opposite definition of the word, or different ways of perceiving it, I will stop here, I don't like to participate in a conversation that's not heading anywhere, lets just agree that we both can't see eye to eye and call it quits.

No you don't like being in a debate and having to admit your wrong, because I told you that analyzing someone in a fight is deducting there movements and abilities. Not just observing and asking someone to give you information on what you observed. Basically Naruto doing what a character like Shikamaru do on a level (debating you is like debating a turn on open oven with a lighter in my hand).

So you are right about this is going nowhere (I am tired trying to be a Naruto anime dictionary for you), cause you know what I was comparing Naruto to intern of him not being base on deducting his opponents like a Sasuke, but being more of a go in, quick minded and quick on his feet type ninja.

 

[KazEmpire]

i'm dissapointed with sasuke's teleport ability.
it doesn't make sense that Sharingan's Kamui is superior to sasuke's rinnegan.
i mean obito's kamui has unlimited range and intangible ability and an exclusive Dimension! but sasuke's rinnegen can teleport him only over short distances ?!?!

 

[ClydeFrog]

i'm dissapointed with sasuke's teleport ability.
it doesn't make sense that Sharingan's Kamui is superior to sasuke's rinnegan.
i mean obito's kamui has unlimited range and intangible ability and an exclusive Dimension! but sasuke's rinnegen can teleport him only over short distances ?!?!

They are two completely different abilities that cannot be compared, since they don't have the same effect.

You may want to work a little on your reading comprehension (along with most of you here).

Let me break it down nice and stupid just for.

Sasuke's eye allows him to cover distance faster (comparable to Minato's FTG), Kamui makes you intangible by sending the part of your body that you want to keep unscathed, into another dimension.

Madara being able to send himself into another dimension in the nick of time does not mean Sasukes Rinnegan<Obito's Sharingan.

 

[Cael]

No you don't like being in a debate and having to admit your wrong, because I told you that analyzing someone in a fight is deducting there movements and abilities. Not just observing and asking someone to give you information on what you observed. Basically Naruto doing what a character like Shikamaru do on a level (debating you is like debating a turn on open oven with a lighter in my hand).

So you are right about this is going nowhere (I am tired trying to be a Naruto anime dictionary for you), cause you know what I was comparing Naruto to intern of him not being base on deducting his opponents like a Sasuke, but being more of a go in, quick minded and quick on his feet type ninja.

I was thinking of analyzing a person weakness, you were thinking of analyzing a person jutsu, if you want an example of naruto using your method to analyze then here

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[Cael]

You are funny dude and a total fraud as we'll.

You try to show that little piece of Naruto thinking, but cut it right before he was done his analyzing deduction of Kakuzu and end up being totally wrong and needing to be save by Kakashi & Yamato. Then he went back in and use his battle instinct to catch Kakuzu off guard.

So Cael go con someone dumber than you (maybe it's a comatose monkey some where), cause I am done playing your game of I'm Never Wrong Even If I'm Wrong.

what's after that page is a few flash backs and naruto preparing the jutsu, that's why I didn't post anything after it, and beside why does it matter if he did it again and succeed. That's not the point, I showed and provide you with evidence and proof that naruto was able to analyze his opponents, and yet you refuse to not post your reason why you feel the above is not enough proof, but babble about how I am a total fraud. well here you go...

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Enlightened yourself, and when you feel that's not enough proof then instead of attacking me in a childish manner, explain to me why you don't consider it as analyzing.

I am not afraid to admit that I am wrong, there is nothing for me to gain here by having this conversation with you, I have openly admitted that I was wrong to a few people on different forums, apologizing. I have not admitted I am wrong to you because you have yet to explain to me why the above is not consider analyzing.

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[Draven]

Cael i agree with you i think though Rasha29 just likes to argue with people for the sake of arguing. He never explains his reasons just continues with petty childish insults.

Naruto may not have the analytical skills Sasuke has or Shikamaru has but he makes up for the dumbness by using his shadow clones to get more knowledge on his opponents like he did in the kakuzu fight or in many many other fights. Naruto doesnt have the actual intelligence so to increase his knowledge he uses shadow clones.

This may not be considered the same type of analysis that Shika and Saskue has but it still is analyzing the opponent to get better results.

 

[Cael]

Cael i agree with you i think though Rasha29 just likes to argue with people for the sake of arguing. He never explains his reasons just continues with petty childish insults.

Naruto may not have the analytical skills Sasuke has or Shikamaru has but he makes up for the dumbness by using his shadow clones to get more knowledge on his opponents like he did in the kakuzu fight or in many many other fights. Naruto doesnt have the actual intelligence so to increase his knowledge he uses shadow clones.

This may not be considered the same type of analysis that Shika and Saskue has but it still is analyzing the opponent to get better results.

I agree, I actually never said that he was on the same level as sasuke or shikamaru when it comes to analyzing, but that he has the ability to, he just use it differently.

I don't understand why he is so upset about this, its just insults after insults. never explaining why it's wrong.

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[yossarian]

Re: Confirmed: Madara has Kamui.

One problem in all this. Madara says that Sasuke is the only one awekening the same sharingan as he did. However Sasuke have Itatchis eyes, not his original eyes. Hence the one Madara should have taken was Itatchi

 

[AbBoOd]

No manga today !!!!?????

 

[marksonm]

Shit I am kinda thinking the same thing… NO MANGA TODAY

 

[boo]

guys anyone knows why not released manga today? -_-