[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 674 Discussion and 675 Predictions

[Rasha29]

Re: Sasuke's speed!

True, he never used it, but with Madara being able to use Obito's technique in an instant it isn't that farfetched to think Naruto could do the same.



Still not the fastest ninja, Gai was able to DISTORT SPACE with his speed. The idea of swapping positions within his rinnegans range is a good one but that's all, it has to be within his range otherwise it won't work... Do you not remember when sasuke had to have Tobirama transport him next to naruto?



Again all of this could be attributed to his rinnegans ability and is limited to it's range. And I don't believe Madara is faster than Naruto at all... Also maybe the only reason Sasuke was only able to catch up to madara because he was forced to slow down while stealing and implanting kakashi's eye.
Overall I'm not ripping on sasuke or even saying naruto is better, I'm claiming they are equal (you know like it's been said 1000 times all ready), you guys just need to stop the **** riding of sasuke before he gets raw

No it's has been quoted many times through out the manga that Sasuke is better than Naruto or will end up better than Naruto as recent as Hagoromo the true Sage of the 6 path telling Naruto that the only way he would be able to defeat Sasuke or get to his level is by getting helpninjutsu. Even Naruto know that Sasuke will end up defeating him just cause he can sense Indra and can predict that Sasuke during their fight will reach another level and stomp him into the dirt (also from that trashing Sasuke handed him in there last fight, have Naruto Shaking in his boots).

So if Sasuke is on par with Naruto and can counter Naruto abilities than he is better, because Sasuke is a genius and the second best battle analyzer in the manga. If Shikamaru the best analyzer ( my favorite character until Kishi also turn him into a Naruto minion, to boost Naruto up), had Sasuke powers than who will be better between Shikamaru or dumb a$$ Naruto?

But don't worry Naruto Balls Boys, Sasuke Sharinnigan ability that he is using is hax, but it have a range. Meaning if Sasuke can control everyone faith or control time to negate all speed (which will mean if you can control reality, than you can make yourself faster than your opponents or stop time altogether and still move, than you will be the fastest person in the Narutoverse, what do your Naruto Balls Boys not get), it still a opening that Naruto can fight against cause of its weak spot, which is the doujutsu distance.

Since Naruto have so much Chakra, he can sent clones in to fight Sasuke and throw rasangans at him outside of Sasuke doujutsu range once he figure it out (which could take Naruto a year, but someone will helpninjutsu and tell him the range like always). But we also haven't seen the other abilities Sasuke Sharinnigan can do (if it six paths or more like Madara eye's and this is the first, than Naruto is in trouble)

So how about you InvaderRaz stop sucking all the chakra out of Naruto one tail and come up for some air, because you can start to understand and follow what you are reading in the manga.

 

[Draven]

674 Discussion 675 predictions

This is my first post to the forum was awaiting account activation. So here is my take on whats going on so far.

1: In regards to people comparing Naruto to Sasuke and judging them saying one is stronger then the other by past feats. This cant be compared each of them have their own benefits and powers but if you think about it each of them is stronger or faster in one point then the other is so you cant really compare them as of yet. I like both Naruto and Sasuke so im not an utter fan of either im comparing them as equals in their own respects.

2: Kakashi getting his eye ripped out think about it he over used the eye and it was going blind. Kishi has it planned somehow that after madara takes his rinnegin back that obito having thrown himself to protect Sakura will port both himself and sakura out and in his dying breath tell sakura to take his Sharingan and implant it into kakashi but before that happens kakashi will reveal his face to obito.

3: Sakura may be hesitant but she isnt useless she is a medical ninja if it wasnt for her naruto would not be alive. She kept his heart beating after madara ripped out 9 tails from naruto so chill the hell out on sakura give her a break she has her uses.

4: This whole will sasuke or naruto become the next hokage, This is my take on that Naruto will step down and let Sasuke become Hokage but seeing as how Naruto has become like a pillar for all the villages and people to connect to they will make him leader of the united Ninja world. Supreme Hokage or something along those lines.

5: This whole argument about gai and whether he should of died or not think about it. Yes i agree he wanted to use his life to protect his comrades but think about how close Naruto and him have been over the years. Naruto seeing another friend die after neji dying right in front of his eyes literally and figuratively messed up his head for a bit maybe Kishi didnt want togo down the path that DBZ went down so many freaking times lol.

Just think about this stuff and let me emphatically state it again im neither a naruto or a sasuke fan they are both equals in my book both have their own qualities. Both of them represent the Yin and Yang sides of the coin so one cant live without the other.

 

[InvaderRaz]

Re: Sasuke's speed!

No it's has been quoted many times through out the manga that Sasuke is better than Naruto or will end up better than Naruto as recent as Hagoromo the true Sage of the 6 path telling Naruto that the only way he would be able to defeat Sasuke or get to his level is by getting helpninjutsu. Even Naruto know that Sasuke will end up defeating him just cause he can sense Indra and can predict that Sasuke during their fight will reach another level and stomp him into the dirt (also from that trashing Sasuke handed him in there last fight, have Naruto Shaking in his boots).

So if Sasuke is on par with Naruto and can counter Naruto abilities than he is better, because Sasuke is a genius and the second best battle analyzer in the manga. If Shikamaru the best analyzer ( my favorite character until Kishi also turn him into a Naruto minion, to boost Naruto up), had Sasuke powers than who will be better between Shikamaru or dumb a$$ Naruto?

But don't worry Naruto Balls Boys, Sasuke Sharinnigan ability that he is using is hax, but it have a range. Meaning if Sasuke can control everyone faith or control time to negate all speed (which will mean if you can control reality, than you can make yourself faster than your opponents or stop time altogether and still move, than you will be the fastest person in the Narutoverse, what do your Naruto Balls Boys not get), it still a opening that Naruto can fight against cause of its weak spot, which is the doujutsu distance.

Since Naruto have so much Chakra, he can sent clones in to fight Sasuke and throw rasangans at him outside of Sasuke doujutsu range once he figure it out (which could take Naruto a year, but someone will helpninjutsu and tell him the range like always). But we also haven't seen the other abilities Sasuke Sharinnigan can do (if it six paths or more like Madara eye's and this is the first, than Naruto is in trouble)

So how about you InvaderRaz stop sucking all the chakra out of Naruto one tail and come up for some air, because you can start to understand and follow what you are reading in the manga.

**** riding, that's all you know... THEY ARE EQUALS, this is and always will be the case from this point forward... the manga could not have spelled it out anymore for you (though I guess it could've because clearly you havent been reading the same one as everyone else otherwise you wouldn't have said 99% of that nonsensical post filled with bullshit)... Show me a single panel of the SO6P saying that to Naruto, please please show it to me (good luck finding something that doesn't exist) seriously show me any panel in any issue backing up what you said.

 

[Rasha29]

Re: Sasuke's speed!

**** riding, that's all you know... THEY ARE EQUALS, this is and always will be the case from this point forward... the manga could not have spelled it out anymore for you (though I guess it could've because clearly you havent been reading the same one as everyone else otherwise you wouldn't have said 99% of that nonsensical post filled with bullshit)... Show me a single panel of the SO6P saying that to Naruto, please please show it to me (good luck finding something that doesn't exist) seriously show me any panel in any issue backing up what you said.

InvadeRaz what do I seem like a reply audio manga book or manga reading tutor to you.

We just read starting a month ago a clear chapters on this issue we debating. InvadeRaz can you understand what you are reading or do you have that Naruto bottom Bs daily amnesia when you read a quote saying Sasuke is better than Naruto or chapter where Sasuke is showing that he is better than Naruto in battle?

I only help you with Narunesia this one time InvadeRaz. Hagoromo quoted that Naruto/Ashura is inferior to Sasuke/Indra and he will need the help of his friends to reach his level. Also Hagoromo quoted that this world is destine for Indra, Madara and Sasuke to rule, cause they are more like his mother. So he try to change that faith with picking Ashura over Indra to follow in his foot steps and end up causing a forever cycle of hate. But now he'd realize he should of chose both of them to bring peace to the world and trusted his older son more.

Also during Naruto meaning with Hagoromo, there was a flash back of Naruto telling the rookie 9 that just cause he beat Pain (which he receive a lot of helpninjutsu and blue prints to defeat Pain ), didnt mean he could defeat Sasuke, cause he sense Indra and knew that Sasuke would defeat him again.

I know you already forgot those last two paragraphs (convenient Naruto Balls Boy memory), so go back 5 chapter and read slowly and try to comprehend it for yourself.

 

[InvaderRaz]

Re: Sasuke's speed!

InvadeRaz what do I look like a reply audio manga book or manga reading tutor to you.

We just read a month ago a clear chapter on this issue we debating. InvadeRaz can you understand what you read or do you have daily amnesia when you read something negative about Naruto?

I only help you with Narunesia this one time InvadeRaz. Hagoromo quoted that Naruto is inferior to Sasuke and he will need the help of his friends to reach his level. Also Hagoromo quoted that this world is destine for Indra, Madara and Sasuke to rule, cause they are more like his mother. So he try to change that with picking Naruto and end up cause a forever cycle of hate. But now he'd realize he should of chose both of them to bring peace together and trusted his older son more.

Also during Naruto meaning with Hagoromo, there was a flash back of Naruto telling the rookie 9 that just cause he beat Pain (which he receive a lot of helpninjutsu and blue prints to defeat Pain ), didnt mean he could defeat Sasuke, cause he sense Indra and knew that Sasuke would defeat him again.

I know you already forgot those last two paragraphs (convenient Naruto Balls Boy memory), so go back 5 chapter and read slowly and try to comprehend it for yourself.

I asked you to provide proof and you instead insulted. I am not a naruto fanboy, in fact I like them both pretty equally. All I am saying is they are equal in power and yes i did go back and reread that comic and guess what? Naruto didn't want fight Sasuke because they would have both died, again in the convo with Hago, it was explained to Naruto that Sasuke/Indra started out more powerful but through hard work and cooperation Naruto/Ashura became his equal... You my illiterate friend need to go back and reread the last 200 or so issues.
FYI I will no longer be responding to you as I gain nothing from arguing with a petulant child who's only system of understanding = "omg I love sasuke so much, don't say mean things! because sasuke is the best and the most amazing guy in the whole series and want to wrap myself in his skin so I can be him"
p.s. I've found this to be the prevailing attitude with all die-hard sasuke fans btw... I think it's because they are loners in real life who never knew the joys of friendship or what it felt like to be loved so they attach themselves to this character who "is so much like them, and yet managed to become powerful" so any perceived attack on said character becomes an attack on them. It is also why they are so negative on anything about Naruto, because he had help achieving his greatness and that bothers them because they feel like that will never happen to them. It's actually kind of sad.

 

[Rasha29]

Re: Sasuke's speed!

I asked you to provide proof and you instead insulted. I am not a naruto fanboy, in fact I like them both pretty equally. All I am saying is they are equal in power and yes i did go back and reread that comic and guess what? Naruto didn't want fight Sasuke because they would have both died, again in the convo with Hago, it was explained to Naruto that Sasuke/Indra started out more powerful but through hard work and cooperation Naruto/Ashura became his equal... You my illiterate friend need to go back and reread the last 200 or so issues.
FYI I will no longer be responding to you as I gain nothing from arguing with a petulant child who's only system of understanding = "omg I love sasuke so much, don't say mean things! because sasuke is the best and the most amazing guy in the whole series and want to wrap myself in his skin so I can be him"
p.s. I've found this to be the prevailing attitude with all die-hard sasuke fans btw... I think it's because they are loners in real life who never knew the joys of friendship or what it felt like to be loved so they attach themselves to this character who "is so much like them, and yet managed to become powerful" so any perceived attack on said character becomes an attack on them. It is also why they are so negative on anything about Naruto, because he had help achieving his greatness and that bothers them because they feel like that will never happen to them. It's actually kind of sad.

No you the one trying to reply to people, that since they think Sasuke is more powerful or like Sasuke over Naruto, they must be d!<k rider (just like a Naruto Balls Boy troll to insult people then cry like a baby, when people come at him for loving Naruto one tail).

Also you still need to learn how to understand what you are reading, cause it clearly shown in that chapter that Ashura had many people behind him, while Indra was by himself. Meaning that Naruto will need help against Sasuke from his friend to defeat him, just like always in his fights and you would have known that if you pay attention to the manga.

By the way how can Naruto defeat Sasuke if they are equal in power, when Sasuke is far superior when it come to analyzing his opponent in a fight? And once again Mrs. Uzumaki my favorite character is Shikamaru not Sasuke (so you are the real d!<k rider in this forum), but I do like Sasuke over Naruto since Naruto turn 16 and became a tail beast steroid needing, helpninjutsu, blue print getting, chosen corn ball (instead of the funny underdog we thought he was before).

 

[Sauce Kay]

Re: Major plot hole in ch 674

That is true. And Madara was able to obtain every tailed beast completely except for Minato's half of Kurama then used the Gedo Statue to absorb them. Let's not forget that the statue was the outer shell of the ten tails. That has to give him more control over the ten tailed beast within him. Not to mention, Madara has over a hundred years of experience I do believe and controls a rinnegan. There are so many details that could explain why he was able to pull Kamui out of his *** when he took Kakashi's eye. Calm down people, probably not a plot hole as so many of you believe it to be. Sit and wait for next chapter.

 

[lightskinfeller]

I see alot of ****** fan here, theres one thing every one forgetting the power that naruto recieve from the so6p is still unknown and how can u say sasuke is the fastest when we havent seen naruto speed in his new cloak,

I hear alot of ppl getting mad cuz naruto alway uses kurama chakra but if yall b so smart and reread you will see that not only his mother was a jink of the 9 tails while she was pregnant but was seal inside him after he was born so its only rite, if thats the case yea sasuke got to always you his sharingan in every battle

I read a post and it piss me off somebody sasuke that naruto is inferior to sasuke, thats a lie there equal if not naruto is a lil stronger, in that case how come the first is stronger than madara

Your wrong there both on par but at the end naruto will be stronger

 

[Grandmastersensei]

Re: Sasuke's speed!

No you the one trying to reply to people, that since they think Sasuke is more powerful or like Sasuke over Naruto, they must be d!<k rider (just like a Naruto Balls Boy troll to insult people then cry like a baby, when people come at him for loving Naruto one tail).

Also you still need to learn how to understand what you are reading, cause it clearly shown in that chapter that Ashura had many people behind him, while Indra was by himself. Meaning that Naruto will need help against Sasuke from his friend to defeat him, just like always in his fights and you would have known that if you pay attention to the manga.

By the way how can Naruto defeat Sasuke if they are equal in power, when Sasuke is far superior when it come to analyzing his opponent in a fight? And once again Mrs. Uzumaki my favorite character is Shikamaru not Sasuke (so you are the real d!<k rider in this forum), but I do like Sasuke over Naruto since Naruto turn 16 and became a tail beast steroid needing, helpninjutsu, blue print getting, chosen corn ball (instead of the funny underdog we thought he was before).

hahah there you go again calling ppl balls boy and talking about "naruto one tail". I knew out of all the days i come on this forum, id see you at it again, acting like a little *****. it is obvious that you have no friends and i think its funny how noone likes u in real life, nor on the these forums. stop crying and just deal with the fact tht naruto has surpassed ur lover. everytime someone praises naruto over ur boyfren, its obvious tht u get butthurt. everytime i read ur pose, its just hate and ignorance. u just make urself look like a fool and make little punk ass remarks. quit crying

 

[rikodousage]

Someone explain to me why Madara is able to go into the kamui dimension, isn´t kakashi´s MS eye only able to teleport things other than himself to that dimension. Consequently, Obito´s MS is able to teleport the user whole or partly. Sooo ehy does Madara enter that realm?

 

[Naruto.]

Someone explain to me why Madara is able to go into the kamui dimension, isn´t kakashi´s MS eye only able to teleport things other than himself to that dimension. Consequently, Obito´s MS is able to teleport the user whole or partly. Sooo ehy does Madara enter that realm?

Probably he must've used a jutsu, which caused Obito's and his eyes to connect, idk. It's a plothole.

 

[lion fang master]

I hope kishi doesn't go rasengan crazy on us two chaps, two rasengan . Now I'm not sure of what's so special about sasuke powers because sasuke has always been able to see thru anyone's jutsu, black lightenning was cool chuck another jutsu up for sasuke. Naruto on the other hand didnt impress me as much just because wack a mole jutsu then one first try he looses the FTG kunai. SAkura vs Madara, maybe but I would like kishi to surprise us with obito giving sakura something like hashirama dna or the the other eye to escape.

 

[foxifox]

Re: Confirmed: Madara has Kamui.

it was awesome but replacing the eye shouldnt be that easy...madara is gettin out of control.

 

[so12p]

Re: Sasuke's speed!

InvadeRaz what do I seem like a reply audio manga book or manga reading tutor to you.

We just read starting a month ago a clear chapters on this issue we debating. InvadeRaz can you understand what you are reading or do you have that Naruto bottom Bs daily amnesia when you read a quote saying Sasuke is better than Naruto or chapter where Sasuke is showing that he is better than Naruto in battle?

I only help you with Narunesia this one time InvadeRaz. Hagoromo quoted that Naruto/Ashura is inferior to Sasuke/Indra and he will need the help of his friends to reach his level. Also Hagoromo quoted that this world is destine for Indra, Madara and Sasuke to rule, cause they are more like his mother. So he try to change that faith with picking Ashura over Indra to follow in his foot steps and end up causing a forever cycle of hate. But now he'd realize he should of chose both of them to bring peace to the world and trusted his older son more.

Also during Naruto meaning with Hagoromo, there was a flash back of Naruto telling the rookie 9 that just cause he beat Pain (which he receive a lot of helpninjutsu and blue prints to defeat Pain ), didnt mean he could defeat Sasuke, cause he sense Indra and knew that Sasuke would defeat him again.

I know you already forgot those last two paragraphs (convenient Naruto Balls Boy memory), so go back 5 chapter and read slowly and try to comprehend it for yourself.

Clearly you don't understand that you have been reading Naruto Shippuden, not Suckske Shippuden. Naruto is the protagonist of the story. Suckske is merely one of the antagonists Kishi uses as a tool to propel the protagonist's character development. In the end, it will always be Naruto Shippuden and there will never be a suckske shippuden...except perhaps in your wet dreams.

 

[Luckyboy786]

feeling bad 4 kakashi!

 

[LordNarutoSo6P]

@Rasha29 What did you just say? Naruto needs his friends to fight Sasuke and defeat him? Hmm. You're the who understand nothing. Hagoromo clearly stated that since Indra's birth, he had powerful eyes and battle sense and he did everything on his own. On the other hand, Ashura could never do anything well since he was a child. In order for him to have the same power as Indra, he needed much effort & to have the cooperation of other people, same as what Naruto did. By Ashura's effort, sufferings and training hard, the chakra on his body bloomed and gained THE SAME POWER as Indra. And this means that, Ashura and Indra became EQUALLY POWERFUL--- meaning Ashura obtained the same power as Indra through the help of other people and their COOPERATION. The word "cooperation" there doesn't mean, 'this person needs these bunch of idiots to defeat this stupid *******'! Why should Ashura needs the help of his friends to fight and defeat Indra when both of them is EQUAL IN POWER? The word COOPERATION there is Ashura needs the help of other people to gain the same power as his brother Indra. You get the point now, didn't you?

I strongly agree! =D

 

[Rasha29]

Clearly you don't understand that you have been reading Naruto Shippuden, not Suckske Shippuden. Naruto is the protagonist of the story. Suckske is merely one of the antagonists Kishi uses as a tool to propel the protagonist's character development. In the end, it will always be Naruto Shippuden and there will never be a suckske shippuden...except perhaps in your wet dreams.

OK Hinata Hyuga, whatever you say.

hahah there you go again calling ppl balls boy and talking about "naruto one tail". I knew out of all the days i come on this forum, id see you at it again, acting like a little *****. it is obvious that you have no friends and i think its funny how noone likes u in real life, nor on the these forums. stop crying and just deal with the fact tht naruto has surpassed ur lover. everytime someone praises naruto over ur boyfren, its obvious tht u get butthurt. everytime i read ur pose, its just hate and ignorance. u just make urself look like a fool and make little punk ass remarks. quit crying

Uh' who are you?

 

[htmwall]

Re: Sasuke's speed!

No you the one trying to reply to people, that since they think Sasuke is more powerful or like Sasuke over Naruto, they must be d!<k rider (just like a Naruto Balls Boy troll to insult people then cry like a baby, when people come at him for loving Naruto one tail).

Also you still need to learn how to understand what you are reading, cause it clearly shown in that chapter that Ashura had many people behind him, while Indra was by himself. Meaning that Naruto will need help against Sasuke from his friend to defeat him, just like always in his fights and you would have known that if you pay attention to the manga.

By the way how can Naruto defeat Sasuke if they are equal in power, when Sasuke is far superior when it come to analyzing his opponent in a fight? And once again Mrs. Uzumaki my favorite character is Shikamaru not Sasuke (so you are the real d!<k rider in this forum), but I do like Sasuke over Naruto since Naruto turn 16 and became a tail beast steroid needing, helpninjutsu, blue print getting, chosen corn ball (instead of the funny underdog we thought he was before).

both naruto and sasuke are spoon fed in this series and if you actually think that sasuke or any uchiha got their power through intelligence only,then you don't actually read the manga clearly.
naruto's deserved power stops at sage mode(even rolled out KCM despite it was deserved since he had to fight a bijuu to get it).
the only power an uchiha deserves is up to 3T sharingan the rest if a series of cheat codes,power of hatred asspulls ,you don't believe me,look how an uchiha gets MS,by simply feeling sad about a person's death(a so normal human emotion that anyone can experience).
a power that even an animal can use(itachi's crow one-shotted him just because he had a MS eye,funny isn't it how one eye can take someone from fodder level to extremely OP that easily),then look at how EMS is obtained,get your bro's eye and it's fine,no mental or physical effort needed,and rinnegan how?get some old hashirama wood and you'll get it or good old SO6P will give it to you.
you want me to go down further,even a normal sharingan isn't obtained by effort just through coincidence.but still i consider it an OK power since it won't make anyone stronger illogically or suddenly.
now we can establish that there is no effort needed to get these powers or even intelligence.(obito used his MS instantantly with S/T jutsu better than minatos and we all know he's nowhere near as genius as minato)
so in the end from what i see uchihas are nothing but cheat code users,sticked up their asses to make their retarded ideals of self-centrism and anti-socialism somewhat relevant in this world.
at least naruto's idea of cooperation and working with other people to achieve goals seems much more realistic than suddenly getting a new power by simply doing nothing but hatred.it's the idea of creating a community in which each one is having the other's back and all the people are fighting together as one against the enemy.
in the end this manga in my opinion would have been much better without the illogical power-ups that seem to be the trend that ruined it.

 

[esemes]

I am still surprised how fast Madara can master things.

1. How can he use Kamui so fast even if he never used to be a Kamui User?
2. How can someone who obtained after his death the Rinnegan now use LIMBO so easilyß

Guess some pros here have a simple explanation for #2

 

[Naruto.]

I am still surprised how fast Madara can master things.

1. How can he use Kamui so fast even if he never used to be a Kamui User?
2. How can someone who obtained after his death the Rinnegan now use LIMBO so easilyß

Guess some pros here have a simple explanation for #2

He didn't obtain the Rinnegan after his death. He obtained it when he was almost close to dying. He had enough time to summon the Gedo Mazou and use the Rikudo No Jutsu, and what not.