Sakura and Shikamaru VS Hinata and Neji

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This is actually 3 on 1. Shikamaru easily takes over Hinata, her and Sakura take down neji. Neji wont be hitting Hinata and trying to dodge Sakura while both of them are trying to hit him is too much and team 2 loses.
 

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Neji blocks Sakura's Tenketsu, she becomes useless. Hinata trips over a rock and GGs herself. Shikamaru is subsequently taken down by Neji.
Neji wont be doing that while trying to not hit Hinata and dodging Sakura. Hinata wont be tripping over a rock because she isnt tired.

Neji is dealing with Sakura and Hinata, he can easily get caught by the shadow possession.
 
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Neji wont be doing that while trying to not hit Hinata and dodging Sakura. Hinata wont be tripping over a rock because she isnt tired.

Neji is dealing with Sakura and Hinata, he can easily get caught by the shadow possession.
Aaaaalright. First of all, let's make some things clear. Part 1 Temari was running circles around Shikamaru's shadows. Unless you're doubting that current Hinata is faster than Part 1 Temari, Hinata doesn't have much to worry about. And even if, by some stretch of the imagination he does connect Kagemane no Jutsu...Part 1 Neji already fodderized Hinata. Part 2 Neji, who is even better at Juuken than Part 1, should have no difficulty doing the same. Neji can multitask with the help of the Byakugan.

Once Sakura's Tenketsu are blocked, as said, there goes her chakra enhanced strength. She becomes useless.
 

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This is actually 3 on 1. Shikamaru easily takes over Hinata, her and Sakura take down neji. Neji wont be hitting Hinata and trying to dodge Sakura while both of them are trying to hit him is too much and team 2 loses.
Hinata has Byakugan which is pretty much 360 degrees of vision. Sneak attacks with shadows aren't going to work.
 

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Aaaaalright. First of all, let's make some things clear. Part 1 Temari was running circles around Shikamaru's shadows. Unless you're doubting that current Hinata is faster than Part 1 Temari, Hinata doesn't have much to worry about. And even if, by some stretch of the imagination he does connect Kagemane no Jutsu...Part 1 Neji already fodderized Hinata. Part 2 Neji, who is even better at Juuken than Part 1, should have no difficulty doing the same. Neji can multitask with the help of the Byakugan.

Once Sakura's Tenketsu are blocked, as said, there goes her chakra enhanced strength. She becomes useless.
Shikamaru has gotten faster with his shadow as well, so Hinata gets easily caught. She isnt too smart either so Shikamaru easily lures her into a trap if needed.

Neji wont be hitting Hinata, he will be dodging her.

So between not trying to hit Hinata and Sakura coming at him plus the intelligence of Shikamru who could lure him into a trap, he loses.
 
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Shikamaru has gotten faster with his shadow as well, so Hinata gets easily caught. She isnt too smart either so Shikamaru easily lures her into a trap if needed.

Neji wont be hitting Hinata, he will be dodging her.

So between not trying to hit Hinata and Sakura coming at him plus the intelligence of Shikamru who could lure him into a trap, he loses.
You seriously think that Hinata is going to be the slightest issue for him? As said, once Sakura's Tenketsu are blocked neither of them are issues. Sakura is on the ground, immobile from Rokujuyon Sho, and Hinata might as well be fodder. She isn't hitting Neji. In all of the times Shikamaru has been shown to make one of his 'genius plans', he's had prep time. He won't have that when Neji is barreling towards him.
 

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You seriously think that Hinata is going to be the slightest issue for him? As said, once Sakura's Tenketsu are blocked neither of them are issues. Sakura is on the ground, immobile from Rokujuyon Sho, and Hinata might as well be fodder. She isn't hitting Neji. In all of the times Shikamaru has been shown to make one of his 'genius plans', he's had prep time. He won't have that when Neji is barreling towards him.
She wont be a problem but not injuring her is what Neji's problem would be. Also Neji wont get into close combat with Sakura, once he does Shikamaru will put him in his shadow possession. They dont need a master plan, but the only way team Hyuga are winning is if they come in close and once that happens its over.
 
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She wont be a problem but not injuring her is what Neji's problem would be. Also Neji wont get into close combat with Sakura, once he does Shikamaru will put him in his shadow possession. They dont need a master plan, but the only way team Hyuga are winning is if they come in close and once that happens its over.
...What? First of all, there's Air Palm. That can disorientate Shikamaru long enough for him to lose control of his Kagemane no Jutsu and for Neji to blitz him. Second off, once Neji recognizes Hinata is under Shikamaru's jutsu he ignores her. Simple as that. Shikamaru can control her, but he can't force her to mold the chakra required for Juuken. So she's worse than useless.
Hidan straight up powered through Shikamaru's Kagemane no Jutsu. What's to say worst case scenario, if Neji is caught under his jutsu, he can't do the same?
 

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She wont be a problem but not injuring her is what Neji's problem would be. Also Neji wont get into close combat with Sakura, once he does Shikamaru will put him in his shadow possession. They dont need a master plan, but the only way team Hyuga are winning is if they come in close and once that happens its over.
I don't see why Neji can't just air palm them both from the start. It would injure Shikamaru and temporarily knock Sakura off her feet.
 

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...What? First of all, there's Air Palm. That can disorientate Shikamaru long enough for him to lose control of his Kagemane no Jutsu and for Neji to blitz him. Second off, once Neji recognizes Hinata is under Shikamaru's jutsu he ignores her. Simple as that. Shikamaru can control her, but he can't force her to mold the chakra required for Juuken. So she's worse than useless.
Hidan straight up powered through Shikamaru's Kagemane no Jutsu. What's to say worst case scenario, if Neji is caught under his jutsu, he can't do the same?
Yeah wont be doing anything. If Neji wants to win he will have to get into close combat, thats it right there. Shikamaru catches him and Sakura ends him.

Whose to say nothing, nothing says Neji can do that.

Also my point on Hinata was Shikamaru would have bee controlling her and he would be throwing punches which Neji would have to be dodging.
 

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Shikamaru has gotten faster with his shadow as well, so Hinata gets easily caught. She isnt too smart either so Shikamaru easily lures her into a trap if needed.
Doesn't matter if she isn't smart, The range of her byakugan exceeds even that of Neji's, No Traps nor sneak attacks are working, Both she and neji can keep an Eye on Sakura/Shikamaru and his shadows at the same time.

Neji wont be hitting Hinata, he will be dodging her.
If he does indeed some how get controll of Hinata, Air Palm should deal with Shikamaru, he gets hit by one of them i doubt he will be able to maintain his shadow binding.
 
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Yeah wont be doing anything. If Neji wants to win he will have to get into close combat, thats it right there. Shikamaru catches him and Sakura ends him.

Whose to say nothing, nothing says Neji can do that.

Also my point on Hinata was Shikamaru would have bee controlling her and he would be throwing punches which Neji would have to be dodging.
Air Palm pushed Kisame, quite possibly the most durable non-Jinchuuriki character in the series, back a good distance. Shikamaru, who won't be able to dodge, gets knocked flat on his backside. From there, as said, Neji blitzes him.

Hinata has the physical strength of an ant without Juuken.
 

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Air Palm pushed Kisame, quite possibly the most durable non-Jinchuuriki character in the series, back a good distance. Shikamaru, who won't be able to dodge, gets knocked flat on his backside. From there, as said, Neji blitzes him.

Hinata has the physical strength of an ant without Juuken.
Also how do Neji/Hinata survive Sakura's punch?

That already knocks them of their feet and creates a punch of shadows everywhere, Shikamaru easily gets them.

The Hyugas lose, Hyugas are close combat and Neji isnt blitzing nothing.
 
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Also how do Neji/Hinata survive Sakura's punch?

That already knocks them of their feet and creates a punch of shadows everywhere, Shikamaru easily gets them.

The Hyugas lose, Hyugas are close combat and Neji isnt blitzing nothing.
By closing her Tenketsu, as I've said so many times already. Neji has speed feats that suggest he can easily blitz Shikamaru. You never countered any of my points.
 

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By closing her Tenketsu, as I've said so many times already. Neji has speed feats that suggest he can easily blitz Shikamaru. You never countered any of my points.
Dude what does Neji has to do to close her tenkestu? Get close, when that happens its over. Stop arguing a pointless fight. Either you have a serious Hyuga wank problem orreally hate Sakura/Shikamaru, because guess what they win, I know that may hurt for some reason but who cares.

Sakura ends this with one punch, as you have no evidence to show they can survive that big of an explosion.
 

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Also how do Neji/Hinata survive Sakura's punch?

That already knocks them of their feet and creates a punch of shadows everywhere, Shikamaru easily gets them.

The Hyugas lose, Hyugas are close combat and Neji isnt blitzing nothing.
Not really, Sakura's strength works both ways.

Shockwaves work against Shikamaru also who (as far as i know) Needs to concentrate to controll his shadows, It also makes the terrain unstable with large rock scattered around the field.


They are close combat fighters but Air Palm easily makes up for their lack of ranged techs and is all they really need to deal with shikamaru. Air Palm can be used to target Vital spots on Either Sakura or Shikamaru and none of these two are Dodging it.
 
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