Why doesnt madara use his preta path?

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he has considerable mastery over it he has been shown to use gedo mazo and all its outer path powers and was very efficient with it, he has shown limbo hengoku, tengai shinsei(meteors), preta path, using rods to manipulate people. The only things he hasn't shown are animal path, asura path and shinra tensei. He has shown many of the rinnegan techniques and the point of the thread is he doesnt use one of the most useful paths which is preta path.
That was when he was an edo tensei and had both his eyes. Now that he's revived, he only has one of his original eyes.
 

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I feel Kishi won't allow it as logically Madara would easily defeat Sasuke and Naruto even nao.... It is clear Madara will only lose for the stories progression.... Even Gai, with the help of 5 other characters was only allowed for story progression.... Otherwise Madara would have killed Gai immediately..... and the others.
 

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I really don't understand why people say why didn't madara use technique A over B? why did he use technique B over C?
How about.. if you want to play the hypothetical game, why didn't Edo-madara summon 20 meteors instead of 2 when he has an infinite amount of Chakra? The community enjoy pretending that these characters have common sense and intelligence or as if they have a consciousness to make their own decisions. Things happen because behind each character is a conscious being making the decisions.
 

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Arv, use your brain. Madara needs both Rinnegans to use the six paths, otherwise Kishimoto would not have kept them separate this long and Madara wouldn't be desperate to get it. It's the same thing with Mangekyou. If you don't unlock two powers in both eyes or have both eyes you cannot unlock Susano'o or use all the abilities of the mangekyou.

I'm about sick of this thread being repeated. As soon as he gets his other eye and starts using the paths, people will probably find a way to ***** about that and call him a cheater.

They were fake rinnegan when he was edo and once he came back to life he was able to still use outer path abilities, limbo hengoku and summon the Gedo mazo. It doesn't make sense that he can't use preys path but the two eyes is necessary is the only plausible explanation though it is still not confirmed anywhere. The rinnegan is not like MS they don't each have seperate powers as obito and madara used the same powers with different eyes ie one had the left and the other had the eighth rinnegan
 

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I really don't understand why people say why didn't madara use technique A over B? why did he use technique B over C?
How about.. if you want to play the hypothetical game, why didn't Edo-madara summon 20 meteors instead of 2 when he has an infinite amount of Chakra? The community enjoy pretending that these characters have common sense and intelligence or as if they have a consciousness to make their own decisions. Things happen because behind each character is a conscious being making the decisions.
This isn't the same preta path is an automatic defense justu against any ninjutsu to not use something to save yourself is purely idiotic. Plot seems to be at play but I hope ppl are right and that u need two eyes for it otherwise it's just bad writing.
 

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They were fake rinnegan when he was edo and once he came back to life he was able to still use outer path abilities, limbo hengoku and summon the Gedo mazo.
Limbo is still unclassified and outer path is not one of the six paths. He has not used any of the six paths in this form yet.

It doesn't make sense that he can't use preys path but the two eyes is necessary is the only plausible explanation though it is still not confirmed anywhere.
No, but it's heavily implied and that's enough for me. I don't need every part of this manga explained to me. I like to think critically and be left in suspense sometimes, otherwise it comes off as dull.

The rinnegan is not like MS they don't each have seperate powers as obito and madara used the same powers with different eyes ie one had the left and the other had the eighth rinnegan
Prove it.

This isn't the same preta path is an automatic defense justu against any ninjutsu to not use something to save yourself is purely idiotic. Plot seems to be at play but I hope ppl are right and that u need two eyes for it otherwise it's just bad writing.
"Oh no! I don't like or understand it so it's bad writing!" Where have I heard that one before.
 

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Limbo is still unclassified and outer path is not one of the six paths. He has not used any of the six paths in this form yet.



No, but it's heavily implied and that's enough for me. I don't need every part of this manga explained to me. I like to think critically and be left in suspense sometimes, otherwise it comes off as dull.



Prove it.



"Oh no! I don't like or understand it so it's bad writing!" Where have I heard that one before.
Heavily implied is not proof first of all until Kishi proves it as fact obito has claimed to be able to use human path with only one rinnegan and so it is possible to use the six paths abilities that's more proof than your speculation. If u don't believe the human path claim I can post a scan

And it is bad writing as fans expect the villain to try to use anything in his arsenal that benefits him and preta path is clearly that and the author must atleast mention why madara can't use it such as what he did with kamui.
 
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I agree, arv
Every Rinnegan user is different, Nagato had the Rinnegan implanted as his eyes since pretty much birth, of course he's going to develop
and master the techniques/paths..
Thank you

And I kno what you're talking about and I'm talking about rinnegan feats madara has already shown I even said in the beginning obito is somewhat excused as he was never shown many 6 paths abilities and probably doesn't kno how to use them but madara doesn't even use ones that he has already shown and I just feel Kishinev should clear it up.
 

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Maybe Madara doesn't know Preta Path? He hasn't used much Rinnegan techniques and he didn't have the Rinnegan for long before he died (actually, he may have but we don't know, it's more likely that he didn't have much time). Nagato had more time to practise and perfect the Rinnegan.
He does. He used Preta on Naruto's rasenshuriken back when he was first Edo'd, and I believe that he commented that Mei's Yoton was not even worth absorbing, but I'm not completely sure if that was only in the anime or if it was also in the manga, but I believe that it was in both. And it can only be assumed that he used it to absorb Sasuke's Amaterasu and Hashi's SM when he was blind
 

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Heavily implied is not proof first of all until Kishi proves it as fact obito has claimed to be able to use human path with only one rinnegan and so it is possible to use the six paths abilities that's more proof than your speculation. If u don't believe the human path claim I can post a scan
Scan away. I already predicted some time ago he may have some but not all the paths. And Madara has the left eye while Obito has the right. They may each have different path techniques.

And it is bad writing as fans expect the villain to try to use anything in his arsenal that benefits him and preta path is clearly that and the author must atleast mention why madara can't use it such as what he did with kamui.
Madara has stated over and over he needs to get his other eye back. And no, it is subjectively bad writing to you, because you are looking for holes that are not there rather than using your imagination to see the things that are.
 
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Scan away. I already predicted he may have some but not all the paths. And Madara has the left eye while Obito has the right. They may each have different path techniques.



Madara has stated over and over he needs to get his other eye back. And no, it is subjectively bad writing to you, because you are looking for holes that are not there rather than using your imagination to see the things that are.
U predicted that he had some paths woah just last post u made the claim that 6 paths abilities without two rinnegan pls stop with the speculation.

Here is ur link

And they both used outer path abilities with different rinnegans we can't make the assumption that the two rinnegan have different powers. I do believe that two rinnegan would increase the power and efficiency and maybe unlock other unknown rinnegan powers. But it's bad writing if the author does not explain why a character can't use certain key abilities we can't leave that to the imagination such as ur can't use 6 paths abilities according to your theory he should deal with it like he did with kamui for example
 

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U predicted that he had some paths woah just last post u made the claim that 6 paths abilities without two rinnegan pls stop with the speculation.
Take your own advice. It wasn't my only prediction, it was one.


Here is ur link
Claiming to use it is not the same as actually doing it. Obito had the other Rinnegan hidden somewhere nearby, he may have been referring to using them both.

And they both used outer path abilities with different rinnegans we can't make the assumption that the two rinnegan have different powers.
It's not an assumption, it's a hypothesis. The outer and inner paths are their own things, not one of the six paths.

I do believe that two rinnegan would increase the power and efficiency and maybe unlock other unknown rinnegan powers.
Now who is assuming? Oh wait, your whole topic is an assumption.

But it's bad writing if the author does not explain why a character can't use certain key abilities we can't leave that to the imagination like he did with kamui for example
What's this "we" bullshit? You are one person, not many. Do not put yourself on a pedestal and generalize your thinking over everyone else's. It's very narrow. And if it is such bad writing, perhaps you should go write and illustrate your own manga, Mr. renowned author and professor of literature, though you have yet to use any literary principles or objectivity as a whole to justify yourself. Here's some: Suspense, foreshadowing, dynamic and critical thinking.
 

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Take your own advice. It wasn't my only prediction, it was one.



Claiming to use it is not the same as actually doing it. Obito had the other Rinnegan hidden somewhere nearby, he may have been referring to using them both.



It's not an assumption, it's a hypothesis. The outer and inner paths are their own things, not one of the six paths.



Now who is assuming? Oh wait, your whole topic is an assumption.



What's this "we" bullshit? You are one person, not many. Do not put yourself on a pedestal and generalize your thinking over everyone else's. It's very narrow. And if it is such bad writing, perhaps you should go write and illustrate your own manga, Mr. renowned author and professor of literature, though you have yet to use any literary principles or objectivity as a whole to justify yourself. Here's some: Suspense, foreshadowing, dynamic and critical thinking.
That is an assumption with no manga facts to back you up and again with the assumptions really he was going to get the other rinnegan take out his sharingan and then used the human path really. And obito agreed with kakashi that he is not making the jinchurkis use pain's abilities to save chakra and stating that he is not using some of the abilities due to it. Again hinting obito that obito had some access to 6 paths abilities with one rinnegan
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or is obito in the midst of battle going to go and get the other rinnegan according to ur theory the manga clearly seems to disagree with ur thinking. These kind of scans are what makes it a bit inconsistent and thats why it should be cleared up by kishi and i call it poor writing concerning this specific issue.

And by "we" i mean there are other fans who have the question stop trying to drive away from the main point. kishi should make clear what madara can or cannot use because as you've seen others have had these kind of questions and it seems like bad writing if you disregard one of rinnegan's core abilities and instead of fans coming up with their own theories which can easily have holes.

And i said "i believe" i didnt come out say that is the truth i can have opinions like everyone else reading the manga. I didnt come out and say U have to have "blah" to use "blah". see the difference
 
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