Hinata Vs. Sakura - Let's make this clear.

RedRobin

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Mar 27, 2014
Messages
12,929
Reaction score
834
Hinata specializes in taijutsu, that's the only thing she's actually good at. Sakura doesn't. Having brute strength doesn't make you a good taijutsu fighter. Her reactions are slow and her punches are too. deal with it.
By the way, Acid won't do shit to no one. It's way too slow to get an small target. Furthermore, Sakura would never summon her anyways.
Hinata has more chances to hit Sakura then sakura does, and we all know what gentle fist can do.

She is supposed to specialize in taijustu does not mean she actually does. She has the Byakugan but doesnt use it to its full potential.

Sakura took out 50 opponents compared to Hinata's 1. Sakura outclasses her big time.
 

Monkeysageof6paths

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Feb 12, 2012
Messages
1,234
Reaction score
46
She is supposed to specialize in taijustu does not mean she actually does. She has the Byakugan but doesnt use it to its full potential.

Sakura took out 50 opponents compared to Hinata's 1. Sakura outclasses her big time.
You're right it doesn't, but even though. She's been training her hole life. She's been trained by Neji himself. So I do think that she specializes in taijutsu. When did Sakura take out 50 opponents? ( I really don't remember if you could show scan or something).
 

RedRobin

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Mar 27, 2014
Messages
12,929
Reaction score
834
You're right it doesn't, but even though. She's been training her hole life. She's been trained by Neji himself. So I do think that she specializes in taijutsu. When did Sakura take out 50 opponents? ( I really don't remember if you could show scan or something).

I dont care who trained her, she still isnt stronger than part 1 neji. She does not specialize in taijustu, far from it.

The scan where he punches the ground and takes out at least 50 juubi clones, then you see Hinata just take down 1 juubi clone.
 

TheEvilOne

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Jan 31, 2013
Messages
14,251
Reaction score
689
+ Bare in mind the mini juubi have better durability than the humans.
 

Monkeysageof6paths

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Feb 12, 2012
Messages
1,234
Reaction score
46
I dont care who trained her, she still isnt stronger than part 1 neji. She does not specialize in taijustu, far from it.

The scan where he punches the ground and takes out at least 50 juubi clones, then you see Hinata just take down 1 juubi clone.
Really? You're funnier than I expected. Well I won't make ya change your, so whatever. Moving on from that.
So? Same goes for Kakashi and Naruto. Naruto ghas very powerful jutsus that can take out a lot of opponents at once, but isn't as good in a hand to hand , one on one situation. (We are talking about his skills in base mode) And Kakashi is the exact opposite. So same goes for sakura and Hinata. Btw I won't be replying until tomorrow (if I don't forget) I'm really tired so yeah.
 

Team7monaa

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Mar 28, 2014
Messages
3,720
Reaction score
194
When was it ever shown that sakura could use chakra scalpel? Please show scan. And the rest is just... really? I hope you're joking.

I can't find Scan but here's a link She uses it with the last of her chakra if she was able to go into naruto she could severely damage Hinata and the thing is it needs only a small amount of chakra to form.
 
Joined
Apr 21, 2013
Messages
477
Reaction score
10
Sakura has advanced way more. Hinata needed to have Naruto on her mind and the Kyuubi Cloak to (barely) do something that 13 Year old Neji was doing.
 

Latios

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Mar 10, 2014
Messages
2,600
Reaction score
54
Sakura has advanced way more. Hinata needed to have Naruto on her mind and the Kyuubi Cloak to (barely) do something that 13 Year old Neji was doing.
Did 13 year old Neji destroy the juubi's hand? Did 13 year old Neji defeat a horde of juubi minions? Did 13 year old Neji defend against the barrage of attacks that the juubi performed?
 
Joined
Apr 21, 2013
Messages
477
Reaction score
10
Did 13 year old Neji destroy the juubi's hand?

Don't take what I said out of context. Im talking from a skill point of view, The only reason she did that was with the Nine Tails Cloak anyway.

Did 13 year old Neji defeat a horde of juubi minions? Did 13 year old Neji defend against the barrage of attacks that the juubi performed?

Juubi wasn't around when Neji was 13. Hinata didn't do either of those on panel anyway, so I don't see how its relevant.
 

Latios

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Mar 10, 2014
Messages
2,600
Reaction score
54
Don't take what I said out of context. Im talking from a skill point of view, The only reason she did that was with the Nine Tails Cloak anyway.

She could do it without the cloak



Nagato The Sage said:
Juubi wasn't around when Neji was 13. Hinata didn't do either of those on panel anyway, so I don't see how its relevant.[/font]

 
Joined
Apr 21, 2013
Messages
477
Reaction score
10
She could do it without the cloak

Show me a scan of her Air Palm being anywhere near enough to compete with the Juubi's hand.






She was only fighting one of them, and even then she hadn't taken it down yet ( ).

She didn't defend against the Juubi either.
 

shelke

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Sep 16, 2012
Messages
22,716
Reaction score
2,495
FrigidKunai, the lone Hinata wolf on this thread. Respect!
 

Keimil

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Jun 7, 2013
Messages
1,851
Reaction score
191
Sakura can't heal from repeated releases of chakra in her chakra network.
Hinata is better at Taijutsu than Sakura, which is only strong. If Hinata manages to hit Sakura tenketsus then it's over.
What good would her intellect be with all her tenketsu's closed?
She can do it all day everyday. Oh, you think Sakura can do shit with her chakra system blocked? Good for you.



Lets analyse how gentle fist has proved to work in the manga before talking nonsense, shall we?

64 palms
You must be registered for see images
Direct Juuken Strike
You must be registered for see images
After receiving the 64 palms from Neji, Naruto managed to keep fighting by Restoring his chakra pool using the Kyuubi's chakra. In other words, if you get your chakra disrupted by Juuken (Gentle Fist) you need to find a way to restore your chakra, another source of chakra to refill your chakra pool.
You must be registered for see images
Sakura is not a Jinchuriki, but she does have Byakugou, that is bassically chakra stored in a seal located in her forehead for 3 years, that can be used to perform Ninjutsu, and Sakura knows how to use it for that:
You must be registered for see images
So if she get her chakra disrupted, she could unseal the area affected by Gentle Fist with Byakugou.

And this is just the worst scenario.

In order to disrupts the chakra of the Target, Hyuuga members need to aim their attacks to the chakra points (Tanketsu), using their Byakugan to see them. If they just attack recklessly the target will only have its organs damaged severely.

But the thing is, there are 361 chakra points in the human body. And coming back to the vs, Sakura can use both hands and legs to attack with CES. But a single hit from Gentle Fist in the chakra points in her right arm or right hand won't leave her unable to perform CES Kicks, nor prevent her from using her other hand to attack.
It does't make any sense and it's not what Kakashi stated in the manga that a single hit from a Hyuuga, without considering the part of the target's body that was attacked, disrupts the entire chakra flow, preventing the target from performing any jutsu.

Besides, the question is: How is Hinata touching Sakura?

Considering:
  • Sakura is faster than Hinata, proved by Databooks and Feats:
    • Chiyo stated she could have evaded the Fourth Kazekage's attacks without her help:
      You must be registered for see images
    • Blitzing The Fourth Kazekage's Puppet:
      You must be registered for see images
    • Almost evading Sasori's poisoned chain, causing her a minor wound.
      You must be registered for see images
      You must be registered for see images
    • Avoiding the attacks of Sasori's puppets (she was not being controlled by Chiyo):
      You must be registered for see images
    • Protecting Chiyo from Sasori, even though she was pretty far from them:
      You must be registered for see images
      You must be registered for see images
      You must be registered for see images
      You must be registered for see images
    • Blitzing Zetsu:
      You must be registered for see images
      You must be registered for see images
    • Jumping a great distance in seconds to protect Naruto and Sasuke from the AOE that her attack causes:
      You must be registered for see images
      You must be registered for see images
  • Sakura is smarter than Hinata, proved by Databooks and Feats:
    Naruto and Sakura vs Kakashi:
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    Chiyo and Sakura vs Sasori
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    Figuring out how Tobi's jutsu worked before anyone:
    Criptography Unit, on pair with Shikamaru and his fan:
    You must be registered for see images
    Outsmarting Zetsu and discovering his jutsu:
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
  • Databooks
    Sakura
    You must be registered for see images

    You must be registered for see images
    Hinata
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    This stats are from 2008, and were published in the third Databook, Sha no Sho, which proves Sakura is faster, smarter, has more stamina and is more skilled in Genjutsu and hand seals than Hinata.
    Hinata is only superior in Taijutsu (per half point), and there is a tie in their skills in Ninjutsu.
    The important thing is, Sakura is smarter and faster and has a one-hit-KO technique.
    Just reminding you the databook was published way before Sakura mastered Byakugou, there is no way Hinata can defeat the main heroine NOW if she wasn't able to do it back then...
  • If Hinata gets too close Sakura can always send her flying:
    You must be registered for see images
Don't overate Sakura, she can't even summon 10% of Katsuyu's body and even if Sakura does summon her, Katsuyu's offensive attacks are shit.
Really? This doesn't look big enough for you?
You must be registered for see images
And regarding to the 10% of Katsuyu, I want to point out that most of the Katsuyu that was summoned before by Sakura, died on hands of the God Tree so maybe that's why they needed to summon 10% in a team with Tsunade, and also that 10% of Katsuyu they summoned had different properties that have never been seen before in the manga.

Besides, Katsuyu's attack range and power are great, she can spit acid at high distances which is capable of meting rocks.
I don't see what stops Hinato from using Hakke Kusho and pushing the acid away from her.
Hakke Kusho is not a great help, it just doesn't harm the target that bad, even a 30% chakra clone Kisame tanked it perfectly. Also it requires some time to cast, so it would be easy for someone like Sakura to evade:
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images
 
Last edited:

Latios

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Mar 10, 2014
Messages
2,600
Reaction score
54
Lets analyse how gentle fist has proved to work in the manga before talking nonsense, shall we?

64 palms
You must be registered for see images
Direct Juuken Strike
You must be registered for see images
After receiving the 64 palms from Neji, Naruto managed to keep fighting by Restoring his chakra pool using the Kyuubi's chakra. In other words, if you get your chakra disrupted by Juuken (Gentle Fist) you need to find a way to restore your chakra, another source of chakra to refill your chakra pool.
You must be registered for see images
Sakura is not a Jinchuriki, but she does have Byakugou, that is bassically chakra stored in a seal located in her forehead for 3 years, that can be used to perform Ninjutsu, and Sakura knows how to use it for that:
You must be registered for see images
So if she get her chakra disrupted, she could unseal the area affected by Gentle Fist with Byakugou.

And this is just the worst scenario.

In order to disrupts the chakra of the Target, Hyuuga members need to aim their attacks to the chakra points (Tanketsu), using their Byakugan to see them. If they just attack recklessly the target will only have its organs damaged severely.

But the thing is, there are 361 chakra points in the human body. And coming back to the vs, Sakura can use both hands and legs to attack with CES. But a single hit from Gentle Fist in the chakra points in her right arm or right hand won't leave her unable to perform CES Kicks, nor prevent her from using her other hand to attack.
It does't make any sense and it's not what Kakashi stated in the manga that a single hit from a Hyuuga, without considering the part of the target's body that was attacked, disrupts the entire chakra flow, preventing the target from performing any jutsu.

Besides, the question is: How is Hinata touching Sakura?

Considering:
  • Sakura is faster than Hinata, proved by Databooks and Feats:
    • Chiyo stated she could have evaded the Fourth Kazekage's attacks without her help:
      You must be registered for see images
    • Blitzing The Fourth Kazekage's Puppet:
      You must be registered for see images
    • Almost evading Sasori's poisoned chain, causing her a minor wound.
      You must be registered for see images
      You must be registered for see images
    • Avoiding the attacks of Sasori's puppets (she was not being controlled by Chiyo):
      You must be registered for see images
    • Protecting Chiyo from Sasori, even though she was pretty far from them:
      You must be registered for see images
      You must be registered for see images
      You must be registered for see images
      You must be registered for see images
    • Blitzing Zetsu:
      You must be registered for see images
      You must be registered for see images
    • Jumping a great distance in seconds to protect Naruto and Sasuke from the AOE that her attack causes:
      You must be registered for see images
      You must be registered for see images
  • Sakura is smarter than Hinata, proved by Databooks and Feats:
    Naruto and Sakura vs Kakashi:
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    Chiyo and Sakura vs Sasori
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    Figuring out how Tobi's jutsu worked before anyone:
    Criptography Unit, on pair with Shikamaru and his fan:
    You must be registered for see images
    Outsmarting Zetsu and discovering his jutsu:
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
  • Databooks
    Sakura
    You must be registered for see images

    You must be registered for see images
    Hinata
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
  • If Hinata gets too close Sakura can always send her flying:
    You must be registered for see images

Really? This doesn't look big enough for you?
You must be registered for see images
And regarding to the 10% of Katsuyu, I want to point out that most of the Katsuyu that was summoned before by Sakura, died on hands of the God Tree so maybe that's why they needed to summon 10% in a team with Tsunade, and also that 10% of Katsuyu they summoned had different properties that have never been seen before in the manga.

Besides, Katsuyu's attack range and power are great, she can spit acid at high distances which is capable of meting rocks.

Hakke Kusho is not a great help, it just doesn't harm the target that bad, even a 30% chakra clone Kisame tanked it perfectly. Also it requires some time to cast, so it would be easy for someone like Sakura to evade:
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images
You do know that Hinata could cut off the tenketsu linked to her heart and kill her automatically right? Byakugou can't heal the damage from the disruption of the chakra network.
 

Keimil

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Jun 7, 2013
Messages
1,851
Reaction score
191
You do know that Hinata could cut off the tenketsu linked to her heart and kill her automatically right? Byakugou can't heal the damage from the disruption of the chakra network.
2 different things:
  1. Sure, the same way Neji hit Hinata several times before she passed out... right? Or just like Naruto tanked several attacks without fainting or dying too...
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images

    And we are comparing her to part 1 Neji, who at the age of 13 he was able to perform rotation and 64 palms, which Hinata just mastered....

    In conclusion 2 things, manga has stated that Hyuugas in training cannot kill at their first strike of Gentle Fist, and Part 2 Hinata is not Part 1 Neji.

  2. This scans indicate that by refilling the tanketsus with another source of chakra, in Naruto's case, the Kyuubi, the effect that Juuken has in the chakra points disappear. Why Byakugou, a chakra reserve, formed by storing chakra in a seal for three years with precisely chakra control, would be any different?
 
Last edited:

Latios

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Mar 10, 2014
Messages
2,600
Reaction score
54
2 different things:
  1. Sure, the same way Neji hit her several times before she passed out... right? Or just like Naruto tanked several attacks without fainting too...
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images
    You must be registered for see images

    And we are comparing her to part 1 Neji, who at the age of 13 he was able to perform rotation and 64 palms, which Hinata just mastered....

    In conclusion 2 things, manga has stated that Hyuugas in training cannot kill at their first strike of Gentle Fist, and Part 2 Hinata is not Part 1 Neji.

  2. This scans indicate that by refillinf the tanketsus with another source of chakra, in Naruto's case, the Kyuubi, the effect that Juuken has in the chakra points dissapear. Why Byakugou, a chakra reserve, formed by storing chakra in a seal for three years with precisely chakra control, would be any different?
So just because she is in training means she can't hit the tenketsu linked to the heart? That is some BS.
 

Keimil

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Jun 7, 2013
Messages
1,851
Reaction score
191
So just because she is in training means she can't hit the tenketsu linked to the heart? That is some BS.
I didn't say that, I said that neither Neji or Hinata have a Gentle fist strong enough to kill in one strike, actually, it has never shown in the manga, that Gentle Fist, can kill in one strike.

And you conveniently skipped everything i said about the Byakugou....
 
Last edited:

Naruto9001

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Feb 14, 2012
Messages
3,253
Reaction score
207
How is this debateable? Sakura is faster, stronger, and literally better than Hinata in every way. Sakura stomps!
 
Top