About the Reincarnation/Successor thing....

[Floydical]

For Sasuke it makes perfect sense. Sasuke was an infant during the Nine-tails attack. The Nine-Tails attack happened quite soon after Madara let himself die. There is definitely possible months between Madara dying and Sasuke being born, but they line up really nicely to go hand-in-hand with the accepted idea of reincarnation. That being when the person dies, they are reincarnated into a new-born.

Its a totally different story when you think about Naruto.

Hashirama lived to see Tsunade as a young girl. He likely only lived until she was about 5. We can round Tsunade's age off to 55, meaning Hashirma died 50 years before the current timeline. This creates a 34-year gap between Hashirama's death and Naruto's birth.

Was there a reincarnation between Hashirama and Naruto that died young? Is Kishi's idea of reincarnation differ from the mainstream in that the soul doesn't reincarnate instantly? Was Ashura's soul sitting idle by waiting for a new person to reincarnate as until Naruto was born? I was curious about people's thoughts on this.

 

[Cauzing]

Ashura took his time

 

[Flakez]

Ashura didn't reincarnate immediately.

 

[sindi1997]

Since Asura died faster i think its safe to say that he waited to pick his succsesor at the same time indra would so there would be no difference in generations and also in terms of power a early reincarnated asura would not let a late reincarnated indra develop so that s why i think they both pick them at the same time

 

[Gerkak]

Obito was thirteen when madara died. He was 15 when he attacked the village and sasuke was 3 months old. This means that it took indra 21 months(nearly 2 years) before he reincarnated into sasuke. Now while I agree that ashura took way too much time to reincarnate into the next guy(naruto) Indra didn't reincarnate instantly either.

I think they reincarnate randomly. There is no specific time for them to reincarnate into someone

 

[ChrisUzumaki]

It waited for naruto since he was the child of the prophecy. It could have went to minato before naruto but the vision was already set in stone for many years that it would be nardo.

 

[Avinash012]

Lel,From where did you pulled that the they must reincarnated into someone right after their death logic? It took ages for Asura and Indra to reincarnated into Hashirama and Madara.In similar way they choose two people from same generation i.e Naruto and Sasuke.

 

[DaVe14]

Yea I think Ashura took his time to decide, he wanted the circumstances to be perfect so that he would reincarnate into the perfect person that was similar to him. I mean Madara I don't think we supposed to live that long anyways so it just made it so that Indra didn't have to wait as long for his reincarnation.

 

[Floydical]

Since Asura died faster i think its safe to say that he waited to pick his succsesor at the same time indra would so there would be no difference in generations and also in terms of power a early reincarnated asura would not let a late reincarnated indra develop so that s why i think they both pick them at the same time

Aww this is a cool idea. You're suggesting that Ashura always let his brother reincarnate before him. Once his brother died he'd wait for him to pick a successor then would pick one for himself. Likewise, if Indra died more quickly, he'd still wait for his brother to die first before picking a successor so the difference in age was never too great.

I ended up putting words in your mouth there, but I really like the idea and it makes sense. They would wait for each other to die before picking new successors to keep the generations the same, perhaps committing to an eternal struggle between them through all generations perhaps?

Obito was thirteen when madara died. He was 15 when he attacked the village and sasuke was 3 months old. This means that it took indra 21 months(nearly 2 years) before he reincarnated into sasuke. Now while I agree that ashura took way too much time to reincarnate into the next guy(naruto) Indra didn't reincarnate instantly either.

I think they reincarnate randomly. There is no specific time for them to reincarnate into someone

Where are you getting these numbers from? Most people will agree that the timeframe between Obito being saved by Madara and him attacking the village was under a year, as short as 6 months. This would mean that it could have been just a few months between Madara dying and Sasuke being born.

Again, where did you get those numbers from?

 

[Mark Sanchez]

I think Obito was suppose to be Ashura's successor but he became evil so Ashura moved on to the next person

 

[sindi1997]

Obito was thirteen when madara died. He was 15 when he attacked the village and sasuke was 3 months old. This means that it took indra 21 months(nearly 2 years) before he reincarnated into sasuke. Now while I agree that ashura took way too much time to reincarnate into the next guy(naruto) Indra didn't reincarnate instantly either.

I think they reincarnate randomly. There is no specific time for them to reincarnate into someone

The manga has specified that There was always balance meaning that indra and ashura s succsesor would always clash and always be reincarnate at the same time I think to preserve the balance Indra and asura are to pick their succesors at the same time but since indra s succsesor was still alive asura was not able to pick one i think

 

[Floydical]

It waited for naruto since he was the child of the prophecy. It could have went to minato before naruto but the vision was already set in stone for many years that it would be nardo.

Huh Minato is a good idea. He died the day his son was born so it could work. He's also the same age as Shikimaru's dad (roughly 40 something) so it could line up well with Hashirama's death.

Lel,From where did you pulled that the they must reincarnated into someone right after their death logic? It took ages for Asura and Indra to reincarnated into Hashirama and Madara.In similar way they choose two people from same generation i.e Naruto and Sasuke.

LOL who says there weren't others before Hashirama and Madara? There could have been several reincarnations of them both before they became Madara and Hashirama.

 

[sindi1997]

LOL who says there weren't others before Hashirama and Madara? There could have been several reincarnations of them both before they became Madara and Hashirama.

THe manga has given us three specific example Indra and asura The First people ..... Madara and hashirama ... Naruto and sasuke ... Obito Read the stone tablet and explained that The younger brother and the older brother always Always fought at the same time and reancanated at the same time .. can't really remember the chapter

 

[Champ]

I agree, Floyd. Be prepared for Naruto fanboys to attack you

 

[Avinash012]

LOL who says there weren't others before Hashirama and Madara? There could have been several reincarnations of them both before they became Madara and Hashirama.

:|Dafuq? There is no hint that suggests this point.

 

[Floydical]

THe manga has given us three specific example Indra and asura The First people ..... Madara and hashirama ... Naruto and sasuke ... Obito Read the stone tablet and explained that The younger brother and the older brother always Always fought at the same time and reancanated at the same time .. can't really remember the chapter

Yes.... three specific examples that we can relate to because they are characters we know of. It is illogical to think there were no reincarnations before Madara and Hashirama. They were not mentioned because they have no relevance to the story and we could not relate to them because we were never told about them.

Its like saying you don't believe there are other solar systems out there because you, yourself, never traveled to them and visited them personally. You accept that they are there because its logical. I think its logical to accept there were reincarnations before Madara and Hashirama because of the vast timeframe between them.

I agree, Floyd. Be prepared for Naruto fanboys to attack you

I always make my threads knowing this is a real possibility because my threads are often semi-controversial .

 

[sindi1997]

:|Dafuq? There is no hint that suggests this point.

I didn't say there were no other reancarnations I simply said that the reancanations where always reancarnated on the sime time

 

[sindi1997]

Yes.... three specific examples that we can relate to because they are characters we know of. It is illogical to think there were no reincarnations before Madara and Hashirama. They were not mentioned because they have no relevance to the story and we could not relate to them because we were never told about them.

Its like saying you don't believe there are other solar systems out there because you, yourself, never traveled to them and visited them personally. You accept that they are there because its logical. I think its logical to accept there were reincarnations before Madara and Hashirama because of the vast timeframe between them.



I always make my threads knowing this is a real possibility because my threads are often semi-controversial .

I never said that there were no reancarnations before madara nad hashirama ..Obito Said that there where and the stone proves it as well However I told you to the speicifics of madara and hashirama ... naruto and sasuke ... both of them reancanated on this guys ... as the manga itselfs suggests the reancarnated person doesn't always die at the same time (madara and hashi s example) However when the reancarnated agian to an other human they do it on the same time and usually the same age naruto and sasuke ... WE don't know who indra and asura reincarnated tooo before they reancarnated to hashi and madara however They still reancarnated at the same time to both madara and hashi .... let s say 1 and 2 where the succsesors before madara and hashi how do we know who died first of them ? also do you think that fromm all of the generations all of the succesors died at the same time so they would reancarnate at the same time i think not that s why i told you they can only reancarnate when both of their succesiors are dead

 

[Floydical]

I never said that there were no reancarnations before madara nad hashirama ..Obito Said that there where and the stone proves it as well However I told you to the speicifics of madara and hashirama ... naruto and sasuke ... both of them reancanated on this guys ... as the manga itselfs suggests the reancarnated person doesn't always die at the same time (madara and hashi s example) However when the reancarnated agian to an other human they do it on the same time and usually the same age naruto and sasuke ... WE don't know who indra and asura reincarnated tooo before they reancarnated to hashi and madara however They still reancarnated at the same time to both madara and hashi .... let s say 1 and 2 where the succsesors before madara and hashi how do we know who died first of them ? also do you think that fromm all of the generations all of the succesors died at the same time so they would reancarnate at the same time i think not that s why i told you they can only reancarnate when both of their succesiors are dead

Yes, and I agreed with you about reincarnating at the same time, it made sense and answered my original question. So yes, I think you are right that even if they die at different times they'd reincarnate at the same time. Thank you for clarifying that you weren't against there being reincarnations before Hashirama and Madara, because this is what I believe as well.

 

[Mr Hiru]

For Sasuke it makes perfect sense. Sasuke was an infant during the Nine-tails attack. The Nine-Tails attack happened quite soon after Madara let himself die. There is definitely possible months between Madara dying and Sasuke being born, but they line up really nicely to go hand-in-hand with the accepted idea of reincarnation. That being when the person dies, they are reincarnated into a new-born.

Its a totally different story when you think about Naruto.

Hashirama lived to see Tsunade as a young girl. He likely only lived until she was about 5. We can round Tsunade's age off to 55, meaning Hashirma died 50 years before the current timeline. This creates a 34-year gap between Hashirama's death and Naruto's birth.

Was there a reincarnation between Hashirama and Naruto that died young? Is Kishi's idea of reincarnation differ from the mainstream in that the soul doesn't reincarnate instantly? Was Ashura's soul sitting idle by waiting for a new person to reincarnate as until Naruto was born? I was curious about people's thoughts on this.

I really could not tell. We don't know if Kishimoto apply the concept of reincarnation per se as it is interpreted in real life, man.