[VS] MS Sasuke vs. Hidan and Kakuzu

[makosheva7]

what the **** are you talking about?

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[makosheva7]

Sasuke low-mid diff.

 

[ARGUS]

Sasuke wins low diff at most

-ONe amaterasu is enough to immobilise lord hidan down,,, as he really has no counters to it,, other than jus staying alive
-Kakuzu is gettinng overhwlemed through susanoo arrows as each of them have enough firepower to destroy one of his hearts,,
sasuke can also shoot amaterasu at kakuzu and chidori variants which can manage to destroy each of kakuzu hearts one by one,,

 

[KidGamer65]

Sasuke stomps.

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[Misconception]

Sasuke stomps... 2Amaterasu's should do the trick...

 

[Europa]

The Sauce wins!

 

[Salad]

I wouldn't call it a stomp but MS Sasuke wins

 

[Europa]

I wouldn't call it a stomp but MS Sasuke wins

It's insanely close to one. Hidan is a non factor and Kakuzu's only way to get around a Susano'o is by going underground. But with the sharingan, Sasuke can see the hands/hearts traveling under neath him.

 

[Salad]

It's insanely close to one. Hidan is a non factor and Kakuzu's only way to get around a Susano'o is by going underground. But with the sharingan, Sasuke can see the hands/hearts traveling under neath him.

Nah, honestly I believe Kakuzu has intel on the MS techniques >.< However give him it, and he can easily make an amertarasu shield with his threads

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Using this as a shield to his body would halt all amertarasu from striking him, along with closing one of the layers to cover his face, with the hearts out of his body it would be difficult for Sasuke to hit one of those hearts while they are flying with rather good agility in the air. Granted a Susano'o arrow could finish Kakuzu if it rips through domu U_U However using his final level of Susano'o and exerting that much effort doesn't seem like a stomp to me, especially since I doubt he's going to use it right off the bat.

 

[Europa]

Nah, honestly I believe Kakuzu has intel on the MS techniques >.< However give him it, and he can easily make an amertarasu shield with his threads

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Using this as a shield to his body would halt all amertarasu from striking him, along with closing one of the layers to cover his face, with the hearts out of his body it would be difficult for Sasuke to hit one of those hearts while they are flying with rather good agility in the air. Granted a Susano'o arrow could finish Kakuzu if it rips through domu U_U However using his final level of Susano'o and exerting that much effort doesn't seem like a stomp to me, especially since I doubt he's going to use it right off the bat.

Enton manipulation turns the thread shield into a kindling fire. Kakuzu is getting set aflame regardless.

Only one of the Masks possesses the ability to fly, not to mention they aren't agile. Unable to avoid a misfire from an ally in the war arc [

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The arrow doesn't need to pierce it. Sasuke can comfortably get up close with a ribcage or V2 Susano'o and then use the chidori spear and pierce it. Once Kakuzu is dead, Amaterasu lits him up and the rest of the hearts fall victim to a susano'o arrow, chidori variant, or if he needs to, enton.

It's a borderline stomp because Kakuzu has nothing to harm Sasuke.

 

[Salad]

Enton manipulation turns the thread shield into a kindling fire. Kakuzu is getting set aflame regardless.

Only one of the Masks possesses the ability to fly, not to mention they aren't agile. Unable to avoid a misfire from an ally in the war arc [

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The arrow doesn't need to pierce it. Sasuke can comfortably get up close with a ribcage or V2 Susano'o and then use the chidori spear and pierce it. Once Kakuzu is dead, Amaterasu lits him up and the rest of the hearts fall victim to a susano'o arrow, chidori variant, or if he needs to, enton.

It's a borderline stomp because Kakuzu has nothing to harm Sasuke.

No not you too, Clearly all of them can fly, I've proved this many times Things don't jump with curvature U_U Nor do the jump parallel to the ground as they were shown to be.

Couldn't avoid misfire that they had no clue was coming? Lml, they will be focused on Sasuke at all times no ambushes are being made here.

Enton really? Kakuzu can remove the set ablaze threads as soon as they are lit. Forgot to mention that because I thought you would of realized this >.< So no he doesn't get set ablaze.

Eh, first off his Enton wasn't even that great with MS feats >.< It was barely existent. Second Susano'o arrow is linear hitting flying hearts will be hard especially when you have to hit the mask only, any other place on the creatures threaded body is a miss. Chidori's range is pitiful and in Susano'o its reduced even more so.

He may have nothing to harm sasuke (although he can break through ribcage) However Sasuke's arsenal consists of harming himself mostly, so its hard for him to get a stomp regardless. Kakuzu can hold his own with Defense and evasion While Spamming jutsu that can be a nuisance to most lvl susanoo's U_U

 

[Dannie]

Would work hidan while on earth absorbs the sun radiation and his power becomes limitless

LMAO, lemme get some one that kush man.

 

[Europa]

No not you too, Clearly all of them can fly, I've proved this many times Things don't jump with curvature U_U Nor do the jump parallel to the ground as they were shown to be.

Couldn't avoid misfire that they had no clue was coming? Lml, they will be focused on Sasuke at all times no ambushes are being made here.

Enton really? Kakuzu can remove the set ablaze threads as soon as they are lit. Forgot to mention that because I thought you would of realized this >.< So no he doesn't get set ablaze.

Eh, first off his Enton wasn't even that great with MS feats >.< It was barely existent. Second Susano'o arrow is linear hitting flying hearts will be hard especially when you have to hit the mask only, any other place on the creatures threaded body is a miss. Chidori's range is pitiful and in Susano'o its reduced even more so.

He may have nothing to harm sasuke (although he can break through ribcage) However Sasuke's arsenal consists of harming himself mostly, so its hard for him to get a stomp regardless. Kakuzu can hold his own with Defense and evasion While Spamming jutsu that can be a nuisance to most lvl susanoo's U_U

1: They don't fly. They can jump pretty high, but they don't fly. The main argument off of it is the panel in the war arc where it even says they're jumping. Pretty pointless regardless, Sasuke possesses the hawk summoning.

2: Yes, Enton. Kakuzu can move the threads, but considering Sasuke can manipulate the flames of Amaterasu it's pointless. It's spreading regardless. His little barrier isn't saving him from Sasuke's enton attacks.

3: No, it was decent. Not to the skill he has now. But he was able to manipulate it upwards against Ay and form a cocoon around his Susano'o to defend himself. Assuming Sasuke can't aim. . ? The Masks are spectacularly quick, you know. And with the Sharingan's precognitive abilities, they get pierced with the arrow if Sasuke things he even needs to use it.

4: Chidori's range is five meters. How is that pitiful? Especially considering it's rather easily for Sasuke to get into range of Kakuzu and use it, without having any fear of being harmed thanks to Susano'o. Also, in Susano'o it's not really too much of a factor. Jutsu have been shown to phase through Susano'o, such as Madara with katon. Itachi was even capable of walking through his.

5: It's basically a stomp when all you can do is TRY to dodge. Which he can't. And, yeah. It causes injury. But he doesn't need to constantly maintain Susano'o throughout the entire fight. Once Kakuzu's body is dead and lit up, his major threat is gone and he's more than capable of avoiding anything sent his way.

 

[Curse Mark]

LMAO, lemme get some one that kush man.

couldn't rep you so i offer you a hit off this chronic instead

 

[Salad]

1: They don't fly. They can jump pretty high, but they don't fly. The main argument off of it is the panel in the war arc where it even says they're jumping. Pretty pointless regardless, Sasuke possesses the hawk summoning.

What do you do to gain momentum and begin flying? Jump lol pitiful argument is pitiful, using the hawk summoning? Lml really? Gets KO'd by Raiton rather easily.

2: Yes, Enton. Kakuzu can move the threads, but considering Sasuke can manipulate the flames of Amaterasu it's pointless. It's spreading regardless. His little barrier isn't saving him from Sasuke's enton attacks.

No he's not spreading from such a distance DIRECTLY WHEN HE GETS HIT he's detaching the threads and jumping back which makes a pretty large distance between him and the flames

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Especially when you said his attention is going to be on the hearts.

3: No, it was decent. Not to the skill he has now. But he was able to manipulate it upwards against Ay and form a cocoon around his Susano'o to defend himself. Assuming Sasuke can't aim. . ? The Masks are spectacularly quick, you know. And with the Sharingan's precognitive abilities, they get pierced with the arrow if Sasuke things he even needs to use it.

Controlling flames directly next to him=/= controlling flames from long range which Kakuzu is going to be in his "Long Range Form". Pre-Cog? Its a hard thing to predict, Are you saying that hes going to perfectly aim in the space pre-cog shows the mask to be? If that's the case I don't see why the hearts just have to move a foot ahead for it to miss the vital spot and harmlessly pass through the body. AoE Attacks are best for dealing with the masks.

4: Chidori's range is five meters. How is that pitiful? Especially considering it's rather easily for Sasuke to get into range of Kakuzu and use it, without having any fear of being harmed thanks to Susano'o. Also, in Susano'o it's not really too much of a factor. Jutsu have been shown to phase through Susano'o, such as Madara with katon. Itachi was even capable of walking through his.

Lmao, Pretty Sure his Susano'o is slow as **** at this time and has no speed feats, regardless Kakuzu's going to be keeping his distance in his long range mades. Yes I know jutsu can phase through it, but the added border of the Susano'o provides an added distance between him and the hearts. 5 meters is pitiful, man.

5: It's basically a stomp when all you can do is TRY to dodge. Which he can't. And, yeah. It causes injury. But he doesn't need to constantly maintain Susano'o throughout the entire fight. Once Kakuzu's body is dead and lit up, his major threat is gone and he's more than capable of avoiding anything sent his way.

He can dodge fine, not to mention as I said if at any time he's in V1 or ribcage Susano'o Kakuzu's fuuton turns deadly.

 

[Europa]

What do you do to gain momentum and begin flying? Jump lol pitiful argument is pitiful, using the hawk summoning? Lml really? Gets KO'd by Raiton rather easily.

You sound awfully like Zex. . . And sorry, present your FULL case on why you believe they are flying. Also, really? Cause you know the mask would have to be rather close to land a hit on the Hawk. From a range, Gian isn't landing. Not to mention Sasuke can always just counter it in a similar manner to Kakashi. You know, cause that is a thing.

If it comes too close, Sasuke's going to be getting off the attack first. His striking speed is far above The Masks. If it's too far, it won't land a hit.

No he's not spreading from such a distance DIRECTLY WHEN HE GETS HIT he's detaching the threads and jumping back which makes a pretty large distance between him and the flames

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Especially when you said his attention is going to be on the hearts.

Because Sasuke's not going to follow up with having the flames spread? And it doesn't matter. He'll merely do what he did against Gaara and send the Enton back at him. It's reusable, it's not like once it's out there it's useless.

I didn't say his attention was on the hearts. I said he'd be aiming for Kakuzu first and then turning his attention to the masks. But he can do it in which ever way he wants. It's not really a concern. With Kakuzu in his ranged form, like you say, he only has to deal with two Masks out. Not even a challenge.

Controlling flames directly next to him=/= controlling flames from long range which Kakuzu is going to be in his "Long Range Form". Pre-Cog? Its a hard thing to predict, Are you saying that hes going to perfectly aim in the space pre-cog shows the mask to be? If that's the case I don't see why the hearts just have to move a foot ahead for it to miss the vital spot and harmlessly pass through the body. AoE Attacks are best for dealing with the masks.

I don't see why he wouldn't be capable of controlling the flames. It's not as if the distance is miles apart. It would make no sense for him to be unable to manipulate the flames from just a handful of yards away. Okay. He's in his long ranged form. . That does nothing but makes him keep his distance. Sort of pointless, but okay. Not really. It's the natural ability of the sharingan. And unless the masks move sporadically. They'll go in the natural route and get nailed.

AoE may be what is preferred, but they aren't the most durable objects. One of Sasuke's sizable Katon or his chidori spear obliterates them.

Lmao, Pretty Sure his Susano'o is slow as **** at this time and has no speed feats, regardless Kakuzu's going to be keeping his distance in his long range mades. Yes I know jutsu can phase through it, but the added border of the Susano'o provides an added distance between him and the hearts. 5 meters is pitiful, man.

Snake summons say Hello. There's no reason why Sasuke wouldn't summon them if he needed a boost in speed, not to mention he still possesses the Hawk summoning. he's pretty good on speed, Zex.

Barely a distance. You're picking hairs here.

He can dodge fine, not to mention as I said if at any time he's in V1 or ribcage Susano'o Kakuzu's fuuton turns deadly.[/QUOTE]

His fuuton is easily dodged without Susano'o. You know this, right? He doesn't need Susano'o to deal with it nor most of what Kakuzu is carrying with him. I'm glad he can dodge, but he's still going to be outpaced by Sasuke, and hit with Amaterasu even if he keeps his distance. Not that what I said was required, the chidori spear is more then enough to deal with Kakuzu if he gets close enough. Which he will, by the way. Any of his combination attacks can easily be tanked via throwing up a variant of Susano'o.

 

[Salad]

Chidori<<<Raikiri which it took to absorb gian so no he can't counter like Kakashi.

Anyways sorry but I don't want to put this much effort into a debate where im merely arguing if its a stomp or not,


Ill present my full case for flight sure as that's important later >.< Might make a thread about it U_U

 

[Europa]

Sasuke's shown higher manipulation of the raiton element. . .Anyways, it's not really important.

Feel free to make a versus match up though. Don't be shocked when people respond the same was as I had.

Nearly a stomp****

 

[Salad]

Booo I said they lose fool >.< I meant a thread on his flight :|

And so? It doesn't matter his change in chakra shape may be superior but he hasn't shown to have the superior strength? Kakashi's is a stronger jutsu.