Orochimaru is greater than Hiruzen (scans with proof)

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You got any proof? Because I dont need your opinion.

Flip a couple of pages on the Databook and it says Hiruzen the God of Shinobi strongest ninja of his time, and during his time Oro and the other two Sannin were alive as well, Last time i checked Orochimaru was not under that category only Hash and Hiru. And only a couple of years younger and Hiruzen would have finished Orochimaru, pretty sad considering Oro is younger than Hiru. Manga facts, now go and actually read the viz databook cause i doubt you own a single manga from naruto or a databook at that lol, sorry ass fangirl.
 

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Iruka, Ch.94
「三代目は 特に歴代の中でも最強�� �� �� �� �� � �言われポロフェッサーと呼ばれた�� �� �� �� �� �� ��だったんだぞ!」
"The sandaime, in particular, was a genius nicknamed the 'Professor,' and was called the strongest of all the Hokage".

the Sandaime was the strongest.

Databook 1, Page 117
"プロフェッサー"と崇められる歴�� �� �� �� �最 強の火影

The "Professor" revered as the strongest Hokage in history.

Databook 1, Page 119
"歴代最強""天才"など,三代目火影�� �� �� �� �� �形 容する言葉はに満ちている.

"History's Strongest", "Genius", etc., there are many words that describe the Sandaime Hokage.


DB2 Pg 84
Konohamaru paragraph:
歴代最強の火影と謳われた、三代目�� �� �� �� �� � �血を継ぐ木ノ葉丸。“木ノ葉崩し�� �� �� �� �� �� ��より敬愛する祖父を失い、その�� �� �� �� �� �は 悲しみに覆われる。だが必ずや里を�� �� �� �� �� � �る大樹に成長するであろう。果て�� �� �� �� �� �� ��標の祖父を目指して・ ・・!!Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.
 

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Flip a couple of pages on the Databook and it says Hiruzen the God of Shinobi strongest ninja of his time, and during his time Oro and the other two Sannin were alive as well, Last time i checked Orochimaru was not under that category only Hash and Hiru. And only a couple of years younger and Hiruzen would have finished Orochimaru, pretty sad considering Oro is younger than Hiru. Manga facts, now go and actually read the viz databook cause i doubt you own a single manga from naruto or a databook at that lol, sorry ass fangirl.
You're stilk brining up the ten years younger thing? Sigh, give me a minute.
 

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eh i wouldnt take that as orochimaru being stronger than hiruzen, what i gather from it is that hiruzen is saying that even after acquiring so much knowledge he still cannot replicate orochimaru's talent

its basically the same thing as a teenager who is a born genius vs a veteran who is good at his work because of long experience, the veteran took several years to accomplish something that the born genius did it because of his talent

orochimaru accomplished several things like pseudo immortality, perfect edo tensei despite being younger than hiruzen

Old hiruzen still beat orochimaru at the short spar they had, by knocking out kusanagi out of his hands

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Don't mind me, just adding to the wank...

I hope you know this: That's not prime hiruzen, that's our old man hiruzen who at his old age still managed
to seal away Oro's hands.
I still remember it quite right, Hiruzen's ape said that Hiruzen should've killed Oro when they had the chance.

Don't mind me.
 
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Prime Hiruzen merks Orochimaru

Old Hiruzen dies defeating 2 Hokage and Orochimaru, couldn't even go home and fap.

#HiruzenSQUAD

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Don't mind me, just adding to the wank...

Only other things who have been comapred to country level threat were the Juubi and Akatuski as a whole.
Nobody else has ever bee considered country level threat, most people are just village level threats.

I like how people say "Old Hiruzen defeated Orochimaru, Hashirama, and Tobirama.

LOL. Orochimaru barely used any of his forbisdden techs, Tobirama didnt use any of his best skill, and neither did Hashirama, WHY? two reasons, 1. Orochimaru was CLEARLY toying around the whole fight, had he been serious, he would have simply killed Hiruzen when Hiruzen was caught in the genjutsu. 2. Tobirama and Hashirama's strength was at pitiful levels when they were revived, and even still. Orochimaru toyed to because Hiruzen was old. What could Prime Hiruzen had done differenly. Maybe he wouldnt have been tired faster, but the end result would have been the same.
 

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I like how you just pretend that Orochimaru wasnt playing around in that fight, also like how you act like the Kage were at full capacity.

Got any proof? Because I dont see where your opinion fits on this thread.
 

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I like how you just pretend that Orochimaru wasnt playing around in that fight, also like how you act like the Kage were at full capacity.

Got any proof? Because I dont see where your opinion fits on this thread.
 

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Need there be more? Orochimaru>Prime Hiruzen high diff.

This talks as if he was alive at the time... soooo many years ago.... so outdated.
 

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Going back to Hiruzen's old battle with Orochimaru; everyone seems to think the latter admitted inferiority to the old weasel. That's really not the case; being Hiruzen's student Orochimaru is very familiar with his fighting style; but the same case can't be said for Hiruzen due to Orochimaru's defection and development to new Jutsu.
Now people would like to use the following scan as proof; [ ]
Orochimaru's mentioning that if Hiruzen was ten years younger he would've been able to completely pull out his soul with the Shiki Fuujin.
Now don't get it twisted Orochimaru was toying with Hiruzen the whole battle and even WANTED to see the Shiki Fuujin: [ ]
Not only that; but the latter also had plenty of times to kill the man during battle; but simply didn't because that would ruin the "fun" ; [ ]

Now; I hope I made it clear; Orochimaru > Hiruzen. Don't get it twisted.

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Now that I put that to rest; let me go take a shower; dueces.

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Iruka, Ch.94
「三代目は 特に歴代の中でも最強�� �� �� �� �� � �言われポロフェッサーと呼ばれた�� �� �� �� �� �� ��だったんだぞ!」
"The sandaime, in particular, was a genius nicknamed the 'Professor,' and was called the strongest of all the Hokage".

the Sandaime was the strongest.

Databook 1, Page 117
"プロフェッサー"と崇められる歴�� �� �� �� �最 強の火影

The "Professor" revered as the strongest Hokage in history.

Databook 1, Page 119
"歴代最強""天才"など,三代目火影�� �� �� �� �� �形 容する言葉はに満ちている.

"History's Strongest", "Genius", etc., there are many words that describe the Sandaime Hokage.


DB2 Pg 84
Konohamaru paragraph:
歴代最強の火影と謳われた、三代目�� �� �� �� �� � �血を継ぐ木ノ葉丸。“木ノ葉崩し�� �� �� �� �� �� ��より敬愛する祖父を失い、その�� �� �� �� �� �は 悲しみに覆われる。だが必ずや里を�� �� �� �� �� � �る大樹に成長するであろう。果て�� �� �� �� �� �� ��標の祖父を目指して・ ・・!!Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.

What took you so damn long?

OT: Solo'd your thread x100

#HiruzenSQUAD
 

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Flip a couple of pages on the Databook and it says Hiruzen the God of Shinobi strongest ninja of his time, and during his time Oro and the other two Sannin were alive as well, Last time i checked Orochimaru was not under that category only Hash and Hiru. And only a couple of years younger and Hiruzen would have finished Orochimaru, pretty sad considering Oro is younger than Hiru. Manga facts, now go and actually read the viz databook cause i doubt you own a single manga from naruto or a databook at that lol, sorry ass fangirl.

SOMEONE is mad hint: Minatard fapboy.
 

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You got any proof? Because I dont need your opinion.

You stating opinions yourself and asking people to provide proof. All teachers is hype of their favorite student. Jiraiya and Minato, Kakashi and Sasuke, Oro and Sasuke.

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Need there be more? Orochimaru>Prime Hiruzen high diff.

For me, what this DB scan really meant was Hiruzen's knowledge could not match up to Oro's talent.
Meaning Oro's talent of immortality jutsus;body switching;edo tensei
Yeah those stuffs. When basing real sheer power, I think Hiruzen would win.
 

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You stating opinions yourself and asking people to provide proof. All teachers is hype of their favorite student. Jiraiya and Minato, Kakashi and Sasuke, Oro and Sasuke.

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It was stated multiple times. Sasuke already is a battle geniis, lmfao
 

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Got any proof? Because I dont see where your opinion fits on this thread.

well if you knew how to read and look at pictures, you could tell by Orochimaru's words, facial expressions and words. Not going to go into full detail on something a 8 year old would understand.
 

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Don't mind me, just adding to the wank...

What chapter is the last scan?
 
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