Non-Kurama Naruto vs Non-Uchiha Sasuke

[Mark Sanchez]

this thread doesnt make sense, if ur gonna handicap Sasuke like this, then u have to take away Uzumaki traits for Naruto

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

sasuke still have chidori's, snake, Curse Mark. who knows if naruto would even be able to learn SM without kuramas chakra. and sasuke is WAY more smarter

Chidori is unusable without Sharingan,without the Sharingan Sasuke would be ignored by Orochimaru which means no CM either.Also Naruto can still learn Sage Mode since his chakra reserves are still high enough without Kurama.

 

[assface3]

They'd both die from AIDS instantly.

Naruto would be a fodder-retard, and Sasuke would be a jolly fodder (he was actually happy before the Uchiha Clan Massacre).

Neither would be shinobi though.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Sasuke is a weakling without curse mark or sharingan. Naruto has the will to train and become strong like rock lee, sasuke achieved everything because he was an uchiha. Otherwise he would whine as usual and would get fodderized like iruka in every fight

 

[mohdzarif]

Naruto's sage mode would destroy Sasuke. When he had sage mode he was on par with Nagato/Pein, and MS Sasuke.
This isn't even a fair match here. Naruto would take this negative difficulty. He'd one shot him with a rasenshurikan, let alone a single sage mode punch since his strength in sage mode is so incredible it took down one of the Pein's in one shot.

Negative difficulty??? U r extremely overestimating Naruto's capability.

Rasen Shuriken was only possible with Tajyu Kage Bunshin, which is not possible without Kurama.

 

[A$AP Wap]

Imagine Naruto born without Kurama, and Sasuke is not an Uchiha.

Who would be stronger right now?

Naruto:
- He might not able to use Tajyu Kage Bunshin without Kurama's chakra
- He still might have Sage Mode even though the learning of Sage Mode needs Kage Bunshin to accelerate the process of mastering it, it is reasonable to say Naruto would still be able to make 3-4 Kage Bunshins like he what did already during the SM training.

Sasuke:
- Don't have Sharingan, means not having Sharingan jutsus at all.
- But he still is a prodigy, top his class before awakening his Sharingan

You should of added if Sasuke would get bitten by Orochimaru and get the Curse Seal or not.

 

[Hebi Sasuke]

You scream biased.

I do believe I'm right though.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Negative difficulty??? U r extremely overestimating Naruto's capability.

Rasen Shuriken was only possible with Tajyu Kage Bunshin, which is not possible without Kurama.

Uzumaki chakra reserves.....

 

[TrollKing]

It should be non uzimaki naruto 1 vs 1 non uchiha sasuke

 

[mohdzarif]

this thread doesnt make sense, if ur gonna handicap Sasuke like this, then u have to take away Uzumaki traits for Naruto

Maybe u r right. Maybe u should make a thread of non-Uzumaki non-Kurama Naruto and non-Uchiha Sasuke...

 

[mohdzarif]

Uzumaki chakra reserves.....

I believe his Uzumaki chakra is not that large considering he isn't a pure Uzumaki. It isn't possible for him to make massive Kage Bunshin to train for Rasen Shuriken.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

I believe his Uzumaki chakra is not that large considering he isn't a pure Uzumaki. It isn't possible for him to make massive Kage Bunshin to train for Rasen Shuriken.

Considering the fact that Kakashi once said Naruto had 4X the amount of chakra he did without Kurama, I'm more inclined to believe otherwise.Naruto would only have to create a dozen or more clones to effectively train anyway.

 

[mohdzarif]

Considering the fact that Kakashi once said Naruto had 4X the amount of chakra he did without Kurama, I'm more inclined to believe otherwise.Naruto would only have to create a dozen or more clones to effectively train anyway.

The seal allowed a bit of Kurama's chakra to flow into Naruto right? Is it really 4 times? I forget about that.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

The seal allowed a bit of Kurama's chakra to flow into Naruto right? Is it really 4 times? I forget about that.

That's what it said during the chapter where Naruto first started training for his chakra nature.Kakashi made a comment about how Naruto's chakra levels were 4 times as large as his own without the Kyuubi.

 

[Sennin007]

naruto has a lot of chakra sage mode plus fuse with pa and ma because no kyuubi sasuke what?? katon chidori

 

[Orenji Uzumaki]

Sasuke fans will rage.

Narhto without kurama still has massive chakra reserves. He would still be able to do tajuu kage bunshin , just not wasteful like he use to. His chakra control wouldnt be ****ed up due to nine tails being absent, thus he would learn jutsu quicker... he has shown in the gaara fight that he can summon gambunta without kuramas chakra so he still has summoning. Rasengan could be done without clones cuz of his better chakra control and arguably all of its variants. Sage mode would still be accesible since his pool of chakra is great. Infinite sage mode cuz he can fuse with ma and pa with kurama. Lets not forget naruto learned to use his clones to analyze before the kakuzu fight so he wouldnt waste chakra . Naruto stomps.

Although sasuke even without sharingan would be pretty good...just no where where he is now

 

[mohdzarif]

That's what it said during the chapter where Naruto first started training for his chakra nature.Kakashi made a comment about how Naruto's chakra levels were 4 times as large as his own without the Kyuubi.

Kakashi assumed that he had 2x as much chakra. Not 4x.

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[Jcub]

Naruto:
- He might not able to use Tajyu Kage Bunshin without Kurama's chakra
- He still might have Sage Mode even though the learning of Sage Mode needs Kage Bunshin to accelerate the process of mastering it, but because of Uzumaki trait, it is reasonable to say Naruto would still be able to make 3-4 Kage Bunshins like he what did already during the SM training.

Kurama was actually keeping Naruto from being successful when he was young forcing him to need his chakra. So really he might have been better off.

 

[Sageflash]

Naruto absolutely shit stomps.

 

[Orenji Uzumaki]

Kakashi assumed that he had 2x as much chakra. Not 4x.

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