[Discussion] Sabo is admiral level clearly

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Second in command might also have referred to strategy, intelligence and tactics, not just raw power.
Sabo is overrated. Let us see his arsenal, then assigning ranks to him would be fine.
 

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So did WBs :) and you cannot prove me wrong.

And no they don't. First off how do you know Kuma was never second in command before he left? Or when he was with Dragon before Sabo joined? People, like yourself, are making all of these presumptions about Sabos strength when we have seen 3 f*cking attacks from him and he destroyed a building...big whoop. Luffy destroys building so by your retarded form of logic he should be Admiral level. Heck Luffy could even be second to Dragon. From what we have seen from Sabo he is around Hancock and Kumas level.

When it says second in command I truly believe it meant he was Dragons right hand man. You're not worth me explaining myself all over again however.


I just proved you wrong WB wasn't arrogant.


Kuma was never stated to be 2nd in command so we'll just assume until said so otherwise don't go around throwing your false info. Once again I never said Sabo was Admiral level based on feat you dumbass, it;s through portrayal. Again your throwing around stupid baseless argument like Luffy could be 2nd. Sabo should be Admiral level though portrayal. So once again you didn't prove me wrong and he just sprouted alot of baseless assumptions.


You truly believe you think Sabo is his right hand man. But the manga CLEARLY say that he's 2nd in the revs that's the equivalent to being an Admiral in the marines. Your arguments are full of shitty assumptions, if you're going to debate come with a more solid argument. You proved nothing in this post nice one.
 

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I just proved you wrong WB wasn't arrogant.


Kuma was never stated to be 2nd in command so we'll just assume until said so otherwise don't go around throwing your false info. Once again I never said Sabo was Admiral level based on feat you dumbass, it;s through portrayal. Again your throwing around stupid baseless argument like Luffy could be 2nd. Sabo should be Admiral level though portrayal. So once again you didn't prove me wrong and he just sprouted alot of baseless assumptions.


You truly believe you think Sabo is his right hand man. But the manga CLEARLY say that he's 2nd in the revs that's the equivalent to being an Admiral in the marines. Your arguments are full of shitty assumptions, if you're going to debate come with a more solid argument. You proved nothing in this post nice one.
Go on then. Do it. All you did was say it in a sentence. It's a lot harder to prove something wrong than to prove something right ;)

Me making assumptions? Part of depicting someones power is through feats? You are making a huge assumption that he is Admiral level off of the fact he said he was 2nd to Dragon and 3 attacks, none of which were Admiral level scale in the slightest. And from feats, Luffy, Law, Kid and Zoro could be his right hand man, but you don't agree right?

You accomplish f*ck all. Apart from amusing me slightly :p I'm probably one of the biggest Sabo fans on here, I think the guy is great. I love his, now revealed, character design, his already shown quirk and that he now has the MMnM, but before he got the fruit and this was announced nobody would have put him on Admiral level, maybe close, but not actually on the same level as men who have fought in numerous wars, permanently changed an islands weather and launched numerous meteors from the sky....oh no! I forgot! Sabo destroyed a coliseum :|
 

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Not gonna say he isn't admiral level since we haven't seen much from him, but I think people are overhyping his entrance. Either that or underrating Admirals as always. Its to be expected though. At the moment I would guess he is just under Admiral around Old SR level or top Shichibukai level.
 
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Yeah and now what is your point exactly ?

Zoro and Sanji are not that far from Luffy's level, and even with the best teachers in the world after 2 years the dont come even close to an admiral. So you basically debunked your own thing here. Unless sabo has magical growth potential.

Admirals 40 years of age, fighting half their lives with their devil fruits and been monsters since birth.
Sabo breaks and elbow pad and a gammy weak floor and suddenly he is god...
Give Luffy another 2 year timeskip do you think he will be Admiral level?

Thats the perspective he's talking about.

Sabo was not at pre skip M3 level 2 years ago, according to him he was post skip Luffy's (Ace) level 2 years ago. So if Luffy can grow from being an absolute fodder to what he is now, would Sabo not be able to grow just as much?

I dont think he's Admiral level tbh.
 

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people overrate admirals too much..as if they are the strongest beings in the opuniverse..ridiculously stupid...they should note that power balance in op is navy hq+shichibukai=yonkou(as said by garp himself who is the most reliable source for this info)..whereras in navy hq we have one fleet admiral,3 admirals and atleast 10 vice admirals..and +7 powerful pirates mostly above vice admiral level(without shichibukai one yonkou and his allies ie whitebeard would destroy navy in the war )..these all are formed to reign the four most powerful pirates "YONKOU"..so if sabo the second in command of revolutionary army cant even defeat an admiral..he dont deserve the spot or revolutionaries are not so dangerous and threatening which is obviously false as we can see the reactions of people even the admirals when just dragons name was taken..sakazuki was so hell bent on killing only bcoz he was dragons son..this shows us the threat and powerful revolutionary army is and mainly Dragon and his officers..so
sabo wins mid diff against fuji hands down and bnow he even has a logia df so fuji meteors and gravity cant do any significant damage..so low or mostly mid diff
sabo is above admiral level clearly
I agree with you

That's a ****ing retarded comparison, Vergo showed himself to being extremely arrogant when facing Law due to beating him badly in the past. While WB and Sabo opponents showed no sign of arrogance what so ever.


Rank do mean shit are you dumb? It's obvious Kuma is below Sabo since he's 2nd in command the only person above Sabo is Dragon, ranks pretty much say peoples power level in OnePiece with only a few exceptions to the rule. The only Marines who ranks don't reflect their strength is the old lady and Garp and they're the exceptions I was talking about. You obivously can't read correctly because people power has been reflect on their ranks on reputation with a few exceptions. Sabo even without thr DF should be well above Kuma.



You comparison are truly stupid think about what you're going to say, Vergo showed he thought he was well above Law in combat prowess. while neither WB or Sabo opponents showed that same arrogance.
Interesting
Give Luffy another 2 year timeskip do you think he will be Admiral level?

Thats the perspective he's talking about.

Sabo was not at pre skip M3 level 2 years ago, according to him he was post skip Luffy's (Ace) level 2 years ago. So if Luffy can grow from being an absolute fodder to what he is now, would Sabo not be able to grow just as much?

I dont think he's Admiral level tbh.
He is admiral level
 
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