EMS is NOT borrowed power

[TrollKing]

endless battle.

but in my 2 cents i agree.


i see how ppl can say its a borrowed powered but it really isnt.

You are bright sir. You deserve a metal

 

[TrollKing]

*stolen

stolen power. ^^

Eyes maybe stolen(even itachi has no problem with that), but the power is not

 

[LeSauce]

And yet inspite of all the senjus in Konoha, they had to go all the way to land of whirlpool to get Uzumakis to become Kurama's jinchuriki.
I wonder why? It's not about just having a strong body. Your chakra also has to be compatible with the bijuu.

So what? Naruto who's only half Uzumaki was able to hold Kurama as a baby. They only chose Kushina and Mito because they were incredibly special. They just chose the better option, that doesn't mean no one else could do it.

 

[Eggs Aisle]

You are bright sir. You deserve a metal

not a "sir"

Eyes maybe stolen(even itachi has no problem with that), but the power is not

but then wbu the fact that kurama was stolen and given as a birthday present?

thats alot more serious then taking a dead person eyes to see.

 

[TrollKing]

So what? Naruto who's only half Uzumaki was able to hold Kurama as a baby. They only chose Kushina and Mito because they were incredibly special. They just chose the better option, that doesn't mean no one else could do it.

Very brilliant. I believe kakashi and all the anbu not gonna lose to a moron who was 2 minutes old

 

[Lulgasm]

Just the fact that people argue about something so stupid makes we want to quit this forum, who gives af? quit crying.

 

[take it easy]

There is not a single scan in the manga to prove the outlandishly hilarious statement that only Uzumakis can become Jins. The fact that Naruto has become one, automatically proves this nonsense wrong.

i never said that only uzumaki can become jinchuuriki of all bijuus. i'm saying that kushina was choosen as jinchuuriki because her special chakra and naruto has special chakra too.

 

[-Spoiler-]

So what? Naruto who's only half Uzumaki was able to hold Kurama as a baby. They only chose Kushina and Mito because they were incredibly special. They just chose the better option, that doesn't mean no one else could do it.

Japanese Clans weren't Incestous, Clans were male dominant and females had to marry out into other clans to strengthen ties which is why there was so much arranged marriages also for a clan to be incestous the numbers would fall rapidly and they would die out and only Kushina was said to have special chakra, Mito was just a powerful Konoichi.

 

[shelke]

Naruto is a Uzumaki that inherited the Uzumaki lifeforce so how does that proves anything wrong?

Naruto is a hybrid. All pure-blooded Uzumakis have different physical traits and a distinct chakra which he lacks. He seems more like Senju Clan if anything.

@Spacy Orange

I wasn't talking about you. I just made a general statement after reading few posts.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Uchiha haters just dont understand that self sacrifice for a fellow uchiha is deeply build in inside uchiha clan.

Yes EMS is not naturallly aquired power by normal standarts but it's the way things work in uchiha clan.

As any set of people tries to provide their offspings with an edge in any field, uchiha do the same and in case of EMS they really have no choice as they are faced with blindness.

It simply cannot be compared with other type of stolen/given/aquired power as plot limits MS power (which is basically EMS if blindness wasnt an issue)

 

[Behemoth55]

ppl claim it's as easy as swapping eyes but there's more to it than that, otherwise Maddy and Izuna both would have had EMS.

Nope, not if Madara and the other Uchiha didn't had knowledge about the eMS at that time. And that's true. That's also the reason why Itachi declared Madara as the one who unlocked the secret of the eternal Mangekyō Sharingan. The databook says, it's a simple exchange of eyes too.

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

The people replying seriously to this thread reinforce my view that everyone is retarded.

 

[Behemoth55]

The people replying seriously to this thread reinforce my view that everyone is retarded.

You're one of us now. ;3

 

[TrollingSage]

Personally I think this whole stolen, given , naturally acquired power argument is a load of horse poo. Saying genetically aquired powers are more "legitimate" than given/borrowed/stolen powers is beyond stupid. Sasuke was born with the sharingan, without any effort on his part. I don't see how that's any different from Naruto being given the fox by his parents. It's like saying someone who was born rich into a rich family has more of a right to his riches than someone who simply won it through the lottery.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Damage control! Damage control!

 

[TrollKing]

Personally I think this whole stolen, given , naturally acquired power argument is a load of horse poo. Saying genetically aquired powers are more "legitimate" than given/borrowed/stolen powers is beyond stupid. Sasuke was born with the sharingan, without any effort on his part. I don't see how that's any different from Naruto being given the fox by his parents. It's like saying someone who was born rich into a rich family has more of a right to his riches than someone who simply won it through the lottery.

None of sasuke's ems power was given to him. Only thing given was itachi's eyes, but they are failing to give him itachi's power

 

[AlphaScythian]

Personally I think this whole stolen, given , naturally acquired power argument is a load of horse poo. Saying genetically aquired powers are more "legitimate" than given/borrowed/stolen powers is beyond stupid. Sasuke was born with the sharingan, without any effort on his part. I don't see how that's any different from Naruto being given the fox by his parents. It's like saying someone who was born rich into a rich family has more of a right to his riches than someone who simply won it through the lottery.

Im sorry, but having most OP weapon known by 5 great and lesser nations on top of #1 or 2 best genetic is far more of extra power that a restoration of flawed genetics which is MS. It simply cannot be compared to a lottery here.

Any one with 2 brains cells sees that and while the term of stolen power can be applied to both sasuke/naruto the magnitude of it cant be compared.

 

[TrollingSage]

Im sorry, but having most OP weapon known by 5 great and lesser nations on top of #1 or 2 best genetic is far more of extra power that an restoration of flawed genetics which is MS. It simply cannot be compared to a lottery here.

Any one with 2 brains cells sees that and while the term of stolen power can be applied to both sasuke/naruto the magnitude of it cant be compared.

Naruto also paid a higher price for his power. MS only makes you blind. Being a jinchuriki comes with a lot more severe risks, e.g you become an outcast, messes with your chakra control and death if the bijuu takes over your body.

 

[TrollKing]

Im sorry, but having most OP weapon known by 5 great and lesser nations on top of #1 or 2 best genetic is far more of extra power that a restoration of flawed genetics which is MS. It simply cannot be compared to a lottery here.

Any one with 2 brains cells sees that and while the term of stolen power can be applied to both sasuke/naruto the magnitude of it cant be compared.

Yup kid naruto had power above kage level already. I kind of think sasuke was lucky he was fighting one tail. If naruto shet one more tail, naruto woulda killed sasuke at VoTe

 

[AlphaScythian]

Naruto also paid a higher price for his power. MS only makes you blind. Being a jinchuriki comes with a lot more severe risks, e.g you become an outcast, messes with your chakra control and death if the bijuu takes over your body.

To even unlock MS you first have to lose what is most dearest to you then you get to be blind on top of it.
In particular case of sasuke he overpayed for his MS as he lost whole clan aside of itachi.

Further more uchiha were already outcast and hated for their power and hunted by likes of danzo, as they were percieved as extreame threat.

Still no comparison

Yup kid naruto had power above kage level already. I kind of think sasuke was lucky he was fighting one tail. If naruto shet one more tail, naruto woulda killed sasuke at VoTe

At that time naruto was half possed by fox already: his stance on hands and legs like animal, extreame rage and use of chakra arms/roars he had no clue of.

I wouldnt count it as a loss to naruto as much as to kurama possesing him.