[Discussion] Sabo is admiral level clearly

[Love Cook]

Ok first of all I speculated his power level before he broke the floor, which isn't all that big of a feat, I based the speculation on the fact that he was equal to Ace when they were kids (51 Ace, Sabo 49, 0 Luffy) I also took into account my thoughts on Luffy's strength and yes I think he is stronger than most ppl think

And from the very start I have been saying that if Sabo gets the mmnm he would be as powerful as Ace would have been if he was still alive, meaning a power up worth 2 years

Ace was very powerful pre TS, ofc he wasn't admiral level but yes imo in these 2 years he could have reached that level

You say wb and noone else but we can safely assume there are other admiral or above tiers, and if we can safely speculate that Luffy, Zoro and Sanji will one day reach that level why can't we speculate that about Sabo?

And jusy for the record I think that when it comes to top tier comparisons (yonko admirals mihawk dragon etc) the admirals are severely underestimated especially when they are compared to the yonko in general

PS and no I have never even for a second believed that Zoro was Fuji level

Nice story, still don't see anything that warrants calling Sabo admiral level.

You can assume all you want, fact is only WB has been seen damaging an admiral. Not even Marco with a semi logia fruit and has been sailing under a yonkou's flag for twice as long as Sabo has been alive, yet Marco, Jozu, Vista etc couldn't do shit against them.

Now Sabo showed the exact copy of Ace's attack and he is Mr. Incredible. That's just too much. If ace = sabo according to you, and Ace got slaughtered by an admiral. You really think that Sabo got at admiral level during the timeskip ?

Don't even answer, it's rhetorical

 

[ethris]

If you have read chapter 744 it should be no doubt in your mind that Sabo is admiral level

if you were they type to make an accurate observation, u wouldnt do it with the lack of moves weve seen. hes strong, but how can u possibly consider him admiral level after how little weve seen. u should take the no doubt in yoru mind part out.

 

[MugiwaraBoy]

Ace was fighting well at Marineford after being chained up for months in the jail cell (would've seriously weakened his body, hunger, thirst, pain) and now with everybody basically in New World having Haki along with Sabo and 2 extra years of training, + now the Mera Mera... I do believe he is above Luffy and close tier to Marco.. but as people have said we have to wait and see. (I believe he's going to hold off Fujitora for the SH's to get away/finish Dofla.

 

[A v i]

I think it is abit too early to conclude that,He is strong and is definitely stronger than Luffy but saying he is admiral level based on the info that we have recived from manga isn't wise if you ask me. IMO he is on the same level as Joker but I won't deny the possibility of Sabo being on the same level as Admirals.

 

[ToshiZO]

Vergo lost duee to arrogance and Smoker gave Law some toubrle. Sabo is LITERALLY TOYING WITH THEM.


Sabo due to rank is superior to Kuma with his brain.​

Doflamingo has fodderized VA level opponents.

But then again, Im not really sure where DD ranks exactly.

 

[Olorin]

If ace = sabo according to you, and Ace got slaughtered by an admiral. You really think that Sabo got at admiral level during the timeskip ?

Don't even answer, it's rhetorical

I find it funny that you are being condescending and make fun of what I wrote when the main character of the story, Zoro and Love Cook himself clearly show how much you can improve in 2 years especially when you are young

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Vergo lost duee to arrogance and Smoker gave Law some toubrle. Sabo is LITERALLY TOYING WITH THEM.


Sabo due to rank is superior to Kuma with his brain.​

Oh, conveniant.
In that case I can say the people Sabo was toying with are having trouble due to arrogance or that WB died due to arrogance.
See how that's a f*cking stupid thing to say? :|

And rank means sh*t. We don't even know Kumas rank to start with and, as we have seen countless times from the Marines, rank doesn't imply strength above another. Not a great gap anyway. As it goes I think Sabo will probably be a tiny bit stronger than Kuma, I said around his level though.

Srsly, the amount of Sabo wank since he came out is ridiculous. He's my favourite character as it goes but i'm not going to hype him up to be something he clearly isn't.

 

[Love Cook]

I find it funny that you are being condescending and make fun of what I wrote when the main character of the story, Zoro and Love Cook himself clearly show how much you can improve in 2 years especially when you are young

Yeah and now what is your point exactly ?

Zoro and Sanji are not that far from Luffy's level, and even with the best teachers in the world after 2 years the dont come even close to an admiral. So you basically debunked your own thing here. Unless sabo has magical growth potential.

Admirals 40 years of age, fighting half their lives with their devil fruits and been monsters since birth.
Sabo breaks and elbow pad and a gammy weak floor and suddenly he is god...

 

[Olorin]

Yeah and now what is your point exactly ?

Zoro and Sanji are not that far from Luffy's level, and even with the best teachers in the world after 2 years the dont come even close to an admiral. So you basically debunked your own thing here. Unless sabo has magical growth potential.

Admirals 40 years of age, fighting half their lives with their devil fruits and been monsters since birth.
Sabo breaks and elbow pad and a gammy weak floor and suddenly he is god...

wow you really are ignorant aren't you?

after 2 years they aren't admiral level yet? well duuuuuuhhhhh, but for that to be the case for Sabo he would have to be as strong/weak as the m3 pre-TS and judging by Ace we can say that no, no he wasn't as weak as the m3, I didn't debunk my theory since Ace would have fodderized the m30 pre-TS and I think it's safe to say that Ace would have improved a lot during the 2 years as well, he was only 20

most likely the gap between Ace and the monster trio would have lessened because of the diminishing returns that come at high power levels but post ts Ace would still be vastly superior to them

the argument that the admirals have been fighting for 40 yeas is invalid because we all know Luffy won't be fighting for 40 years before he gets to Admiral level

and don't forget that Sabo arguably had a better teacher than the m3 and he was with him a loooooooot longer than the m3o

and once again NO I don't speculate Sabo's power because he destroyed a ring, that is a non-feat for OP

and what was my point exactly? well my point was that Luffy, Zoro and Sanji show us how much you can improve in 2 years (the pacifista example) so why can't we apply the same improvement logic to Ace? and by extension, Sabo since they went 51:49 as kids

now stop being condescending and label everyone as a dumbass just because they speculate a power level, guess what you're not the only one who reads the manga

 

[SeriousDogg]

With the Mera Mera he is at least at Admiral level.

and if someone thinks that Ace was at Sabo's level it's a nonsense, the moment Dragon took Sabo with him Sabo became much stronger.

 

[Love Cook]

wow you really are ignorant aren't you?

after 2 years they aren't admiral level yet? well duuuuuuhhhhh, but for that to be the case for Sabo he would have to be as strong/weak as the m3 pre-TS and judging by Ace we can say that no, no he wasn't as weak as the m3, I didn't debunk my theory since Ace would have fodderized the m30 pre-TS and I think it's safe to say that Ace would have improved a lot during the 2 years as well, he was only 20

most likely the gap between Ace and the monster trio would have lessened because of the diminishing returns that come at high power levels but post ts Ace would still be vastly superior to them

the argument that the admirals have been fighting for 40 yeas is invalid because we all know Luffy won't be fighting for 40 years before he gets to Admiral level

and don't forget that Sabo arguably had a better teacher than the m3 and he was with him a loooooooot longer than the m3o

and once again NO I don't speculate Sabo's power because he destroyed a ring, that is a non-feat for OP

and what was my point exactly? well my point was that Luffy, Zoro and Sanji show us how much you can improve in 2 years (the pacifista example) so why can't we apply the same improvement logic to Ace? and by extension, Sabo since they went 51:49 as kids

now stop being condescending and label everyone as a dumbass just because they speculate a power level, guess what you're not the only one who reads the manga

There is a difference between reading it and watching pictures, you watch pictures.

I'll stop here and i'll just shove all these posts in your face once Sabo gets his ass kicked in the future. The guy has done shit and you made him like top 10 in overall strength.

I wish I could debate and counter facts with assumption, that would be so convenient.

With the Mera Mera he is at least at Admiral level.

and if someone thinks that Ace was at Sabo's level it's a nonsense, the moment Dragon took Sabo with him Sabo became much stronger.

So the moment the world strongest man took in Ace doesn't count ? And we all saw how admiral level Ace was with that mera mera no mi.

 

[xcoyote]

Lol at the bandwagoners in this thread.
Any Admiral level fighter in the manga smokes this clown no diff.

 

[Omniman]

I say he is low to mid tier Admiral level. He'll be Top Tier Admiral Level once he masters Mera Mera No Mei.

 

[Naruto.]

Why do people overestimate Sabo without completely seeing all his moves? He might be strong, but once we see all of his abilities, then he can be ranked. >_>

 

[akimofnevis]

All aboard the hype train !

This week it's Sabo, next week he will be forgotten, the week after that we declare someone else admiral level.

Let's make a list of all the people who were to seriously fight and hurt any of the admirals during the entire series,

Ok here we go:

1) Whitebeard
2).. There is no number two

Only WB was able to hurt Akainu with a couple of attacks, after that Akainu got up for another round of fighting in the war. The world's strongest man and his crew were not able to take out 1 of the admirals.

Akainu and Kuzan fought for 10 days an changed the climate of an island.

Now Sabo shatters standard edition tournament gear on Jesus elbow and breaks a through the weakened tournament floor.

obviously that makes you an admiral in One Piece, because fvck logic right, it's not like Oda has been carefully building his world for 15 years and planning his power scaling very carefully.

Do we still remember when Zoro was admiral level of the week when Fujitora threw him in that pit. so kewl that Zoro got out on his own. He must be admiral level.

dumb asses >.>

Zoro is my favorite character but no where near admiral level, Sabo is admiral level.

With the Mera Mera he is at least at Admiral level.

and if someone thinks that Ace was at Sabo's level it's a nonsense, the moment Dragon took Sabo with him Sabo became much stronger.

The moment dragon looked at him his power level increased

Why do people overestimate Sabo without completely seeing all his moves? He might be strong, but once we see all of his abilities, then he can be ranked. >_>

I saw enough, season claw , dragon breath and hiken, like he won that tournament in 3 moves , he just might be yonko level

 

[Naruto.]

Oh, here we go again. xD
3 moves doesn't make him admiral level. Let him fight some admirals or let us see his full arsenal, then let's assign ranks. ._.

 

[A v i]

Oh, here we go again. xD
3 moves doesn't make him admiral level. Let him fight some admirals or let us see his full arsenal, then let's assign ranks. ._.

That quote in your sig.

The moment dragon looked at him his power level increased

Dafaq? :|

 

[peace ffor all]

people overrate admirals too much..as if they are the strongest beings in the opuniverse..ridiculously stupid...they should note that power balance in op is navy hq+shichibukai=yonkou(as said by garp himself who is the most reliable source for this info)..whereras in navy hq we have one fleet admiral,3 admirals and atleast 10 vice admirals..and +7 powerful pirates mostly above vice admiral level(without shichibukai one yonkou and his allies ie whitebeard would destroy navy in the war )..these all are formed to reign the four most powerful pirates "YONKOU"..so if sabo the second in command of revolutionary army cant even defeat an admiral..he dont deserve the spot or revolutionaries are not so dangerous and threatening which is obviously false as we can see the reactions of people even the admirals when just dragons name was taken..sakazuki was so hell bent on killing only bcoz he was dragons son..this shows us the threat and powerful revolutionary army is and mainly Dragon and his officers..so
sabo wins mid diff against fuji hands down and now he even has a logia df so fuji meteors and gravity cant do any significant damage..so low or mostly mid diff
sabo is above admiral level clearly

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

Oh, conveniant.
In that case I can say the people Sabo was toying with are having trouble due to arrogance or that WB died due to arrogance.
See how that's a f*cking stupid thing to say? :|

And rank means sh*t. We don't even know Kumas rank to start with and, as we have seen countless times from the Marines, rank doesn't imply strength above another. Not a great gap anyway. As it goes I think Sabo will probably be a tiny bit stronger than Kuma, I said around his level though.

Srsly, the amount of Sabo wank since he came out is ridiculous. He's my favourite character as it goes but i'm not going to hype him up to be something he clearly isn't.

That's a ****ing retarded comparison, Vergo showed himself to being extremely arrogant when facing Law due to beating him badly in the past. While WB and Sabo opponents showed no sign of arrogance what so ever.


Rank do mean shit are you dumb? It's obvious Kuma is below Sabo since he's 2nd in command the only person above Sabo is Dragon, ranks pretty much say peoples power level in OnePiece with only a few exceptions to the rule. The only Marines who ranks don't reflect their strength is the old lady and Garp and they're the exceptions I was talking about. You obivously can't read correctly because people power has been reflect on their ranks on reputation with a few exceptions. Sabo even without thr DF should be well above Kuma.



You comparison are truly stupid think about what you're going to say, Vergo showed he thought he was well above Law in combat prowess. while neither WB or Sabo opponents showed that same arrogance. ​

 

[Dr Strangelove]

That's a ****ing retarded comparison, Vergo showed himself to being extremely arrogant when facing Law due to beating him badly in the past. While WB and Sabo opponents showed no sign of arrogance what so ever.


Rank do mean shit are you dumb? It's obvious Kuma is below Sabo since he's 2nd in command the only person above Sabo is Dragon, ranks pretty much say peoples power level in OnePiece with only a few exceptions to the rule. The only Marines who ranks don't reflect their strength is the old lady and Garp and they're the exceptions I was talking about. You obivously can't read correctly because people power has been reflect on their ranks on reputation with a few exceptions. Sabo even without thr DF should be well above Kuma.



You comparison are truly stupid think about what you're going to say, Vergo showed he thought he was well above Law in combat prowess. while neither WB or Sabo opponents showed that same arrogance. ​

So did WBs and you cannot prove me wrong.

And no they don't. First off how do you know Kuma was never second in command before he left? Or when he was with Dragon before Sabo joined? People, like yourself, are making all of these presumptions about Sabos strength when we have seen 3 f*cking attacks from him and he destroyed a building...big whoop. Luffy destroys building so by your retarded form of logic he should be Admiral level. Heck Luffy could even be second to Dragon. From what we have seen from Sabo he is around Hancock and Kumas level.

When it says second in command I truly believe it meant he was Dragons right hand man. You're not worth me explaining myself all over again however.