Kakashi vs Itachi (No sharingan, or sharingan related techniques)

[Owarij]

Itachi is faster in both speed and handseals, Without Sharingan. Kakashi himself has admitted he cannot see Itachi's seals whatsoever. Meaning exploding bunshins will be appearing out of nowhere..That combined with simple uses of Duskcrow and finger genjutsu to create openings

Won't be much of a fight

 

[The Necromancer]

Itachi is faster in both speed and handseals, Without Sharingan. Kakashi himself has admitted he cannot see Itachi's seals whatsoever. Meaning exploding bunshins will be appearing out of nowhere..That combined with simple uses of Duskcrow and finger genjutsu to create openings

Won't be much of a fight

Totes magoats.

 

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Itachi gets the Rin treatment.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Using Raikiri/Chidori forces the user to move in a straight line with the Sharingan.

Scan that explicitly states this.

Or the literal explanation^


Notice he always uses his sharingan in conjuction with this, even in adulthood.

I don't see the relevance. He always uses the Sharingan.

The speed at which Chidori and Raikiri are used requires the use of the Sharingan to negate the susceptibility to counter-attack. Of course it still affects him.

That was when he was a kid - with the same reactions he had as a kid. Not buying that it would hamper him as an adult, even if he has no reaction feats without the Sharingan.

Kakashi can fight in Taijutsu just like he did with his Raikiri in both hands. Itachi can't fight that.

 

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[Owarij]

That was when he was a kid - with the same reactions he had as a kid. Not buying that it would hamper him as an adult, even if he has no reaction feats without the Sharingan.

Obito called it "A Sharingan relying Chakra Blade" A few chapters ago. Meaning after seeing it in action he still has reason to believe that it's dangerous to him without Sharingan

Obito: "A Sharingan-relying lightning blade...
You've really honed and mastered that left eye, even awakening the Mangekyo...

However... Can you return from the other plane one more time...?
In your current condition?"

- Chapter 609/2

 

[The Necromancer]

Scan that explicitly states this.



I don't see the relevance. He always uses the Sharingan.



That was when he was a kid - with the same reactions he had as a kid. Not buying that it would hamper him as an adult, even if he has no reaction feats without the Sharingan.

Kakashi can fight in Taijutsu just like he did with his Raikiri in both hands. Itachi can't fight that.

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#Sorrynotsorry

 

[RedRobin]

Its funny when everyone is saying Itachi when he has no feats without his Sharigan.

 

[AGoodBoy]

not having the sharingan just means it's now harder for kakashi to see through and break itachi's non-sharingan genjutsu..

Infact, kakashi has a harder time reading itachi's movements, a harder time breaking his genjutsu and an inability to use raikiri... Good job, you just made this an easier fight for itachi.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Its funny when everyone is saying Itachi when he has no feats without his Sharigan.

Put they won't mind that.

Obito called it "A Sharingan relying Chakra Blade" A few chapters ago. Meaning after seeing it in action he still has reason to believe that it's dangerous to him without Sharingan



- Chapter 609/2

I see. But Kakashi can still fight with a Raikiri variant.

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Of course there's the potential of a backlash, but Itachi is featless with reactions without his Sharingan.

To those that say Genjutsu: No. He's seen Dusk Crow, and can counter with his Kage Bushin.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Without sharigan. Kakashi loses his 2 best techniqes which are kamui and lightning blade. In all of Kakashi's battles he needed the sharigan to fight(zabuza, hidan, kakuzu, itachi, obito, jinchurriki, deidara, 7 swordsman etc.) Kakashi can still use chidori since his kid version used it before getting the sharigan.

Itachi has no feats without sharigan so everything people say about him is pure speculation.

Since Kakashi has a bigger arsenal and feats, I say Kakashi wins.

 

[RedRobin]

not having the sharingan just means it's now harder for kakashi to see through and break itachi's non-sharingan genjutsu..

Infact, kakashi has a harder time reading itachi's movements, a harder time breaking his genjutsu and an inability to use raikiri... Good job, you just made this an easier fight for itachi.

Who says he even has genjustu without his sharingan?

Without sharigan. Kakashi loses his 2 best techniges which are kamui and lightning blade. In all of Kakashi's battles he needed the sharigan to fight(zabuza, hidan, kakuzu, itachi, obito, jinchurriki, deidara, 7 swordsman etc.)

Itachi has shown to be able to fight without it whilst Kakashi loses his greatest assets.

Where did Itachi fight without his sharingan?

 

[The Necromancer]

Put they won't mind that.



I see. But Kakashi can still fight with a Raikiri variant.

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Of course there's the potential of a backlash, but Itachi is featless with reactions without his Sharingan.

To those that say Genjutsu: No. He's seen Dusk Crow, and can counter with his Kage Bushin.

Since you're so intent on using feats, show me a raikiri variant Kakashi uses without his Sharingan.

Who says he even has genjustu without his sharingan?



Where did Itachi fight without his sharingan?

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[AGoodBoy]

Who says he even has genjustu without his sharingan?

Finger genjutsu and dusk crow aren't sharingan genjutsu. They don't even use eye contact.

 

[Owarij]

Of course there's the potential of a backlash, but Itachi is featless with reactions without his Sharingan.

Itachi reacted to muki tensei, pulled out Susanno and defended his brother before Sasuke could even react to help himself. A reaction feat that not only puts him abvoe sasuke in that regard, but also didn't require the aid of Sharingan what so ever. Itachi has loads of reaction feats throughout the manga.

Kakashi simply is not on a base level to handle Itachi. Esp with crow summonings for distractions and shruiken jutsu aimed at blind spots he can't see coming and can't predict due to lack of Sharingan..
This fight won't last long

 

[Draphsin]

Doesn't ephemeral clean this up?

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Since you're so intent on using feats, show me a raikiri variant Kakashi uses without his Sharingan.

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Gee I'm gonna have a ball doing that when he always fights with a Sharingan in part two.
I don't see why he can't use that method I posted. Its literally applying Raiton chakra to a Kunai.

Like I said; Kage Bushin.

 

[A$AP Wap]

Itachi still has **** Riders. Kakashi is on par with Guy's regular Taijutsu, so Kakashi would beat Itachi in a 1v1 close combat fight. Kakashi has more techniques than Itachi, and more experience. All Itachi really has Shurikenjutsu, Katon, and better than average Taijutsu Skills.
- Without Genjutsu, Itachi isn't winning this fight.

 

[The Necromancer]

Gee I'm gonna have a ball doing that when he always fights with a Sharingan in part two.
I don't see why he can't use that method I posted. Its literally applying Raiton chakra to a Kunai.

And you know that doesn't require speed to use, creating a tunnel vision effect similar to Raikiri?

You can't complain about a lack of feats with one character while posting assumptions using a lack of feats for the character you support.

Either settle for speculation on both sides, or conclude that this fight is featless and impossible to judge.

Itachi still has **** Riders. Kakashi is on par with Guy's regular Taijutsu, so Kakashi would beat Itachi in a 1v1 close combat fight. Kakashi has more techniques than Itachi, and more experience. All Itachi really has Shurikenjutsu, Katon, and better than average Taijutsu Skills.
- Without Genjutsu, Itachi isn't winning this fight.

Then it sure is good he does still have genjutsu, isn't it?

 

[narutokage99]

Without sharingan, Kakashi stomps...