I really hate this manga.

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Kaaant, if you truly hate this manga, I find it utterly stupid to continue reading it.:p

The urge to see where such a fking mess like Naruto & see whsre it ends up is a really hard temptation to not comply with.
 

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I agree. The manga has definitely gotten a bit stale. I think the last real battle was Sasuke vs Deidara. There was strategy, not just Susano'o spamming or a TBB barrage. And the artwork has gotten worse as well. Orochimaru looks different and it bugs me.

Agreed. Plus Oro and Kakashi have become fanboys at the cost of their characters.

Kaaant, if you truly hate this manga, I find it utterly stupid to continue reading it.:p

Closure and that's it.

The entire post implies it. I told you that you are hoping for miracles. Turns out I was right ...

As far as power scaling goes, then the moment you mentioned Gai you lost the credibility, as Gai was never meant to achieve this level, even when it was revealed way back.

Miracles? I call it consistency. It's hard to debate with you on this - you're content enough with what's happening to Sasuke at the cost of the quality of the story. The fact the person is stated to surpass the Gokage isn't enough for you? I'm right anyway.
 
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I was gonna mention Hiatus X Hiatus. HXH is like how Naruto was in its prime.

Togashi and Kishimoto are horrible people, it has to be said.



I don't really think that's relevant at all. It's because of how much I loved this manga that I'm so disappoint.
I don't like how you're bashing something that is free. Especially how people don't care much about his well being in real life. Kishimoto is a human being just like me and you. Be grateful he's still able to wake up everyday and write. Even if it seems like things aren't going the way you want them to, Kishimoto is a hard worker. I don't think anyone who selfish understand the work it takes to wake up everyday illustrate and write. This guy is still going even after his dad recently died. So give him a break.
 
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Art from better times.

I can't believe it's sunk this low, ever since the timeskip this manga has progressively gotten worse and worse. Now it's all about who your dad is that dictates where you stand, excluding Lee and Gai. Oh? You're mid twenties, spend day and night trying to train to be your best? Well that kid's sixteen and has a body like a Sumo wrestler, but he's related to god, therefore you lose. There's no substance; all that this manga is comprised of is a lotta super Emo Zenkai, with some mass deep throating of Biju thrown in for good measure. That's it. The Kekkei Genkai are awesome, but if you don't have one, or aren't blessed with platinum chakra levels you may as well go crawl to a farm and pretend to be a sheep - because as far as the writer's concerned you're a fodder, and he's already forgotten your name as soon as he's put pencil to paper - similar to how he once forgot Konohameru ever existed.

SUSANOO !!!! MOKUTOOOOOON !! BIJUDAMASASKECOMEBACKTOMEENGAAAN !!!

It was at least cool when you had characters like Hashirama who had Kekkei Genkai, but could also use other techniques, not characters that only have as many as three barely diverse techniques to save their lives. But even now Kishi seems to have retconed the possibility that Hashi ever used anything that wasn't Mokuton.

Elemental ninjutsu is pointless. Genjutsu that isn't Uchiha branded is pointless. Taijutsu that isn't amped by gates is pointless. 'Raw' Ninjutsu is pointless. Just get a big blue rib cage and it'll solve all your problems.

Clan of a thousand skills? Mastered every Jutsu in Konoha? Copied a thousand techniques? Jutsu knowledge that's leagues above any living Shinobi? You'll never sniff fraction of it, because before borrowed power and Genetics, it's nothing.

This isn't even going into plot, or how he's ruined the characters of folk like Orochimaru and Kakashi.
I don't like how you're bashing something that is free. Especially how people don't care much about his well being in real life. Kishimoto is a human being just like me and you. Be grateful he's still able to wake up everyday and write. Even if it seems like things aren't going the way you want them to, Kishimoto is a hard worker. I don't think anyone who selfish understand the work it takes to wake up everyday illustrate and write. This guy is still going even after his dad recently died. So give him a break.
 

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Elemental ninjutsu is pointless. Genjutsu that isn't Uchiha branded is pointless. Taijutsu that isn't amped by gates is pointless. 'Raw' Ninjutsu is pointless. Just get a big blue rib cage and it'll solve all your problems.

Clan of a thousand skills? Mastered every Jutsu in Konoha? Copied a thousand techniques? Jutsu knowledge that's leagues above any living Shinobi? You'll never sniff fraction of it, because before borrowed power and Genetics, it's nothing.

This isn't even going into plot, or how he's ruined the characters of folk like Orochimaru and Kakashi.

Whilst I don't agree with your post as a whole, there is no denying this section of the post. Very well written.
 

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As far as I'm concerned, the good moments of the manga greatly outnumber the bad ones and so I'm preety satisfied. Also, I won't jump into a conclusion before I see the end of it.

P.S Kaant? You really couldn't find anything better than that? XD The way it sounds really makes me think associatively.
 

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But for real i think naruto shippuden is pretty meh
 

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Miracles? I call it consistency. It's hard to debate with you on this - you're content enough with what's happening to Sasuke at the cost of the quality of the story. The fact the person is stated to surpass the Gokage isn't enough for you? I'm right anyway.

Here is where you are making assumptions. I have repeatedly ranted on this forum that how much I hate the power scaling, the plot holes, the inconsistency, and that I adore Sasuke because of his characterization. Don't make shots in the dark.

Kage, not Gokage. Don't know where you got this from. The part one power scaling was Hizuren. The fact this guy even scratched Madara is laughable. It was a huge upgrade from what was outright stated in part one. So you keeping Gai out, and yet ranting about power scaling is pretty strange.

As far as consistency is concerned, then few characters were meant to be the best and were meant to become more than legends - Sasuke was one of them and Uchiha Clan were always stated to be the top dogs. I don't see your point. If you want to talk about the obscene Naruto Ball Z power scaling here, then I agree with you, but mentioning Gai and then talking about Clans when Canon manga has given them a better pedestal is not a sound argument.
 

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The Manga's no longer balanced there's no form of drawbacks for using haxxed techniques. i blame it on MS as someone said the manga started to go downhill fast once Susanoo was introduced.
 

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I agree been saying this for a few months now.
 

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If u hate the man a gtfo u 1 person maybe 50 don't matter kishi still have 1000,00000000 ppl in japan that haves **** with hm
 

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I don't understand why like to bash the manga so much . Basically , Kishimoto makes an average chapter , all say Naruto is bad , makes an awesome chapter , all say Naruto is getting good . Kishimoto doesn't have time for all , I mean , you're exaggerating for wanting to see Konohamaru , the manga is reaching its climax .
 

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You could read something else like Berserk or whatever if you're sick of Naruto.
 
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