[Discussion] Why is over half of Africa so poor?

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I read your post.


Hate is what started fighting from the very beginning. Wars started from hate, since African's were so underdeveloped there was no need for war when you can just walk in and take, they were so naive. Also while techincally the African's rebelled against Western colonization the West powers could have easily stomped them, the truth of the matter is they had already did what then came to do which was assert dominance the resources were a perk and easy pickings. You have to realize that time period is the beginning towards African's which still continue today. Another reason why the Western powers just left is because not all Westerners accepted that and in the " New Age " that sort of think was inhumane.

This is really just a semantics argument, but whatever. The original cause of the problem was Europe's greed. It spurred the two worlds together, and the hate was bred from it.
 
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I hope you do realize that France is also considered the West. Your efforts are admirable and I'm sure it's saved a few lives, but as long as the IMF World Bank exists, Africans will be the basis of our prosperity as well as other countries like Haiti, Iran, etc. They had the loans IMPOSED on them and the interest rates of these loans are continuously hiking up. Plus SAP restrictions have cut off all of Africa's money making industries.

Can you source the world bank leeching? I wasn't aware of it before. I'd love to read up on it.
 

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You have to admit to yourself that all that could be done is not being done.
I can only speak for the people attending colleges.
I hope you do realize that France is also considered the West. Your efforts are admirable and I'm sure it's saved a few lives, but as long as the IMF World Bank exists, Africans will be the basis of our prosperity as well as other countries like Haiti, Iran, etc. They had the loans IMPOSED on them and the interest rates of these loans are continuously hiking up. Plus SAP restrictions have cut off all of Africa's money making industries.
This is the only way I can put it. This is what Natural Resources emphasizes on.
"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
 

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This is really just a semantics argument, but whatever. The original cause of the problem was Europe's greed. It spurred the two worlds together, and the hate was bred from it.

Agreed.

I think the act of taken from another stems from envy and hate. The act of thinking you are better than so one enough so to take what is theirs is envy and hate. The getting resources thing was simply a perk, I know what hate is which is why I say it was hate but your book work on the matter is right nonetheless but you forget to take into account the " human factor " how people act, the nature of man.
 

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Can you source the world bank leeching? I wasn't aware of it before. I'd love to read up on it.



There's also some informative videos out about it. I recommend watching "Zeitgeist Economic Hitman" and watching all 3 parts of the 2 hour series when you have time. It reveals some pretty shocking things.
 

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I can only speak for the people attending colleges.

This is the only way I can put it. This is what Natural Resources emphasizes on.
"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."

You have to understand Africa's civilians for the most part are corrupt and even if you teach a man to fish the corrupt will take from that man to feed themselves. The former oppression has left Africa paralyzed with no guidance or at least some but its irrelevant to the damage that has already been done. Africa will be forever the way it is because of the former hate and the once peaceful and naivety trait Africa showed.
 

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I can only speak for the people attending colleges.

This is the only way I can put it. This is what Natural Resources emphasizes on.
"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."

As if they had access to their own resources. If they did, Africa wouldn't have been an economic cesspool. The restriction of these resources and their own cash crops is due to the SAP restrictions that comes with the World Bank Loans.
 

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Your wrong not over half of Africa is poor what ever you see on TV news doesn't matter cause they only show the poor side of Africa it's the government that makes them poor
 

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um because historically they have strong tribal interest that has divided the people and this division has been used by outsiders to exploit and control these people by various groups such as Europeans, United States, Middle Eastern and Asian countries. Plus the economic value of Africa is immense and it only benefits outsider countries to have them constantly in disorder.

HOWEVER
Outsiders have not been Africa's only problems. Currently they have enormous problems with failed states and dictatorships; child soldiers, old bitter tribal disputes have reemerged, as well cultural ambiguity/ disease and infrastructure problems.
 

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you're right about most of that, except for the fact that africa is not one of the richest parts of the world. Europe and north america have/had the most abundant resoruces, which is the only reason that europe and now america are in power. They had the initial edge and have been riding it ever since.

u.s has a bunch of resources to bro dont get me wrong europe not so sure thats why they went to africa for it bt they got rich in different ways for as the richest in natural resources its africa other countries got rich in different ways such as japan with technology u.s seems to be rich in all catagories thats why i think its the richest even doe they say we are not iny more i have tons of thoughts and ideas that i feel will work to get us out of dept and to get africa out of poverty but no power too do it i know it will work but for oneif i did have the power i dont think people have enogh heart to make it work because people are stingy and most only care about money if the countries that the african countries owe really wanted toohhelp why still make africa pay you he money that they really dont owe you see what im sayn they just do it and say it to be seen act like they care they dont if we dont wanna be in dept in the u.s lets pass up a few income tax checks let it go to geting us out of dept are helping the true homeless are education are we that stingy idk lots of thoughts i have probally will never happen
 

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you're right about most of that, except for the fact that africa is not one of the richest parts of the world. Europe and north america have/had the most abundant resoruces, which is the only reason that europe and now america are in power. They had the initial edge and have been riding it ever since.

u.s has a bunch of resources to bro dont get me wrong europe not so sure thats why they went to africa for it bt they got rich in different ways for as the richest in natural resources its africa other countries got rich in different ways such as japan with technology u.s seems to be rich in all catagories thats why i think its the richest even doe they say we are not iny more i have tons of thoughts and ideas that i feel will work to get us out of dept and to get africa out of poverty but no power too do it i know it will work but for oneif i did have the power i dont think people have enogh heart to make it work because people are stingy and most only care about money if the countries that the african countries owe really wanted toohhelp why still make africa pay you he money that they really dont owe you see what im sayn they just do it and say it to be seen act like they care they dont if we dont wanna be in dept in the u.s lets pass up a few income tax checks let it go to geting us out of dept are helping the true homeless are education are we that stingy idk lots of thoughts i have probally will never happen
 

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Colonialism, mixing of rival groups, corrupt government and others make it poor, especially low technology. It's a shame, In my history book there is a diagram showing total people who died and have AIDS represented by a person(1 person =a whole bunch of people). Africa, sub sahran Africa to be specific had like way more than all the countries it was insane.
 

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As if they had access to their own resources. If they did, Africa wouldn't have been an economic cesspool. The restriction of these resources and their own cash crops is due to the SAP restrictions that comes with the World Bank Loans.

You are hopeless. All of the villages that we help with are all becoming sustainable. They use there land the way we taught them and are thriving. That is something you won't find while your head is buried in bank loans and restrictions.
 

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Because the Europeans, Asians, Arabs, Indians, etc. (well, everyone) are plotting against them; they are a cursed people, and it's sad because I don't see any light at the end of that tunnel.
 

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Spiral of decline.
 

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You are hopeless. All of the villages that we help with are all becoming sustainable. They use there land the way we taught them and are thriving. That is something you won't find while your head is buried in bank loans and restrictions.

The question is "Why is Africa poor", not "How can we help Africa" because we all know ways we can help at least a few as you have.
I presented the main reasons why Africa is poor, something your naivety will never let you comprehend and you're taking it as some sort of personal attack. Grow up and open your eyes, this shit still occurs and are the foundations of our economies.

I'm not sorry nor afraid to say THE WEST IS AT FAULT. This is painfully obvious.
 

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Europe, USA, and Asia robbed them.
 

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I do not think you can blame the whole thing on Europeans.They also robbed Asian countries too but they are bit better.That is mostly because education.Europeans let Africa stay darkness. It is been half a century since Europeans left, so if they cant fix the problem it is solely because of their own problem.My country is a former British colony and there are so many problems all I see is it is not because of British it is because of the attitude of my own people that we are not able to overcome it.
 

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I do not think you can blame the whole thing on Europeans.They also robbed Asian countries too but they are bit better.That is mostly because education.Europeans let Africa stay darkness. It is been half a century since Europeans left, so if they cant fix the problem it is solely because of their own problem.My country is a former British colony and there are so many problems all I see is it is not because of British it is because of the attitude of my own people that we are not able to overcome it.

When taking all of the factors into consideration with African countries, it's really unfair to compare them to other countries like the ones in Asia. Maybe I'll go into further detail tomorrow, but as for right now I'm tired. Just know that the case of robbery in Africa is more severe than most if not all other countries. It's not even robbery in Africa's case, it's forced perpetual servitude.
 
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