[VS] Sannin vs 4 Kage

[ItachiStylez]

Jiraiya, Tsunade, and [Current]Orochimaru
VS
Gaara, Mei, A, and Onoki

Location: Gaara vs Kimimaro
Restrictions: ET ~ (Oro gets one ET only if things start to go too downhill, that one being Minato at the time of his death)
Distance: 50 Meters
Intel: They know of each other's reputations and any previous encounters.

Situation: The ninja villages are trying to create an allied shinobi alliance, and all but the leaf have joined it. The Kage of the other villages summoned Tsunade to try to persuade her to have the leaf join as well. As with the real Kage summit, she was allowed to bring along two comrades; It being unnecessary for the other four since they're already on the same side. The leaf village has no intention of joining and know that this could very well end in an all out battle, but also being who they are, don't plan to ambush the other four unprovoked. They're 100% prepared to react instantly and have all the necessary tools for battle. The four Kage, outnumbering the Sannin, are feeling quite confident that they should have no problem attacking and defeating them in a surprise assault if they refuse to join but little do they know, it's expected of them.

Just as in most battles, they aren't just going to pull out their best moves first as they need to be careful and gauge their opponent's strengths and weaknesses quickly and efficiently. The exception is that Jiraiya knew that sage mode would be necessary in this battle and already fused himself with Fukasaku and Shima prior to arriving to the specified location rather than struggling to enter sage mode during battle.

 

[Joker]

Jiraiya already prepared the Sage's? I feel like the Sannin take it mild difficulty. Katsuyu goo plays a large role.

 

[Bronze]

Onoki solos SM Jiraiya.
Gaara solos Orochimaru.
Ay or Mei solos Tsunade.

Kage high diff.

 

[Joker]

Onoki solos SM Jiraiya.
Gaara solos Orochimaru.
Ay or Mei solos Tsunade.

Kage high diff.

Typical MR. It's teamwork for a reason. Ohnoki isn't catching SM Jiraiya by the way. Orochimaru is supported by Jiraiya's oil and water, not to mention he's dealt with a sand manipulator before. Mei is Kusanagi'd, Tsunade is support.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Sannin win solely due to oro. Oro's basically the only relevant one.

 

[Bronze]

Typical MR. It's teamwork for a reason. Ohnoki isn't catching SM Jiraiya by the way. Orochimaru is supported by Jiraiya's oil and water, not to mention he's dealt with a sand manipulator before. Mei is Kusanagi'd, Tsunade is support.

If you want to go by teamwork, then i suggest you reread the parts where Madara was almost killed by Gokage's teamwork.

Onoki solos SM Jiraiya [

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Jiraiya's oil and water cannot even mix, furthermore, he needs Gamabunta in order to do so, and the toad gets 1 shotted by Jinton. Gaara solos Orochimaru.

Tsunade is blitzed by Ay.

 

[Joker]

If you want to go by teamwork, then i suggest you reread the parts where Madara was almost killed by Gokage's teamwork.

Onoki solos SM Jiraiya [

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Jiraiya's oil and water cannot even mix, furthermore, he needs Gamabunta in order to do so, and the toad gets 1 shotted by Jinton. Gaara solos Orochimaru.

Tsunade is blitzed by Ay.

Gokage were supported by Tsunade who was constantly feeding them chakra. [Not reading that link by the way, too lazy as of now].
Plus, you seem to be unaware that the toad Sage's can perform Goemon, which utilizes Oil, Fire, and Wind. All he needs if to have Ma summon other toads. Plus, you're acting like Ohnoki can spam Jinton for days, it takes a minute to fire off. Jiraiya is more then capable of dodging.
Gaara's sand is messed up by the later, Orochimaru pierces.
Tsunade is supported by Orochimaru, who takes over Ay and proceeds to blitz Mei. Done.

 

[RicardoA]

Its debatable whether or not Jiraiya's oil would cripple Gaara's sand, but imo it would work.
Orochimaru could handle Ay using his weird body to tank his attacks and paralyse him.
The kages teamwork shouldn't be understimated, but i'm leaning towards the sannin due to the above mentioned counters and the aid they can get from their summons.
SM Jiraiya and Orochimaru alone could pull it off imo, with Tsunade adding more pressure i'm sure they win.

 

[Bronze]

Gokage were supported by Tsunade who was constantly feeding them chakra. [Not reading that link by the way, too lazy as of now].
Plus, you seem to be unaware that the toad Sage's can perform Goemon, which utilizes Oil, Fire, and Wind. All he needs if to have Ma summon other toads. Plus, you're acting like Ohnoki can spam Jinton for days, it takes a minute to fire off. Jiraiya is more then capable of dodging.
Gaara's sand is messed up by the later, Orochimaru pierces.
Tsunade is supported by Orochimaru, who takes over Ay and proceeds to blitz Mei. Done.

Not really, considering Onoki collaborated his defense with Gaara, and his offense with Ay. Tsunade basely did anything good. Goemon doesn't render Gaara's sand useless. Its been said that the type of substance used to render Gaara's sand useless is mixture of oil and water [

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]. Goemon lack water in the matter. That's why you should read my debate with PC, where i mention Onoki wouldn't spam Jinton. And no, Jiraiya isn't dodging land buster attack.

Orochimaru reacting to Ay? Nice fanfiction. Not gonna happen.

 

[~Sky~]

The Sannin probably win this. Though, with all these characters in the mix it would be incredibly hard to take all the scenario's into consideration.

 

[Karin Uzumaki]

Kages win mid diff

 

[Joker]

Not really, considering Onoki collaborated his defense with Gaara, and his offense with Ay. Tsunade basely did anything good. Goemon doesn't render Gaara's sand useless. Its been said that the type of substance used to render Gaara's sand useless is mixture of oil and water [

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]. Goemon lack water in the matter. That's why you should read my debate with PC, where i mention Onoki wouldn't spam Jinton. And no, Jiraiya isn't dodging land buster attack.

Orochimaru reacting to Ay? Nice fanfiction. Not gonna happen.

Lmfao, where did I say, Orochimaru reacts? You're putting words in my mouth due to a lack of a solid argument. Orochimaru goes into his TF, Ay pierces or chops, he gets paralyzed, Orochimaru takes his body. What's hard to grasp? Refering to your Gaara scan he says, "it resembles oil more so than water, letting it seep through" I don't think he ever explicitly stated it needed to be a mixture. Therefore, Oil is working. So are you trying to say Tsunade wasn't a factor in the Kage fight? If so, I have nothing more to say.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Not really, considering Onoki collaborated his defense with Gaara, and his offense with Ay. Tsunade basely did anything good. Goemon doesn't render Gaara's sand useless. Its been said that the type of substance used to render Gaara's sand useless is mixture of oil and water [

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]. Goemon lack water in the matter. That's why you should read my debate with PC, where i mention Onoki wouldn't spam Jinton. And no, Jiraiya isn't dodging land buster attack.

Orochimaru reacting to Ay? Nice fanfiction. Not gonna happen.

Jiraiya can use oil on his own.[

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] In your scan gaara said the substance resembled oil more than water, meaning it's the oil which affected his sand. Seeing as oil and water can't truly mix, in the first place, it is one of them(the oil) which had an effect on the sand.

What's stopping oro from reacting to Ay? V1 ay is easily reacted to. If you mean v2 ay, he still can't do jack to kill oro anyway[

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ay's chakra while boosting oro's reserves, allowing oro to easily outlast him. That attack

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by any of the sensors in the room.

If oonoki preps a jinton, Oro

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instantly if he doesn't move because jinton requires

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. Add onto that jinton's considerable charge* time and it's never going to activate.
*Notice how Muu activates his jinton while naruto's falling[

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]. Naruto then has time to jump off sand, while jinton is still charging and

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... while jinton is still charging. Kusanagi would slaughter oonoki in that time frame.

 

[Beans2]

Sannin win mid diff. Since Jiraiya starts in SM, it's a simply matter for Oro and Tsunade to buy him enough time to prep sound genjutsu, which one-shots all 4 kage at once.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

The Sannin have a shot when Jiraiya is fused with Ma and Pa. But, I fear that the Four Kages still have too much of an edge in this match up.

-Oonoki being capable of making the Raikage or Gaara's sand even quicker.

-Mei supplying covering fire and incredibly powerful suiton to help counter balance Jiraiya's katon.

- Oonoki being able to manipulate the earth to help out any of his allies if they come under fire or are caught off guard by a Sannin.

The combinations are amazing.

 

[Bronze]

The Sannin have a shot when Jiraiya is fused with Ma and Pa. But, I fear that the Four Kages still have too much of an edge in this match up.

-Oonoki being capable of making the Raikage or Gaara's sand even quicker.

-Mei supplying covering fire and incredibly powerful suiton to help counter balance Jiraiya's katon.

- Oonoki being able to manipulate the earth to help out any of his allies if they come under fire or are caught off guard by a Sannin.

The combinations are amazing.

Thank you for mentioning the bold part. I don't need to reply to the others considering once the bold happens, its over. Ay and Onoki speedblitz Madara and broke his V3 Susanoo.

 

[Latios]

The Kages win this. The Sannins are bested by the Kages incredible teamwork.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Thank you for mentioning the bold part. I don't need to reply to the others considering once the bold happens, its over. Ay and Onoki speedblitz Madara and broke his V3 Susanoo.

Not even that, but Oonoki can always allow Ay to fly. A flying V2 Raikage is a pretty deadly and versatile force. Which is also a rather convenient counter to the Swamp of the Underworld technique. . .

 

[Bronze]

Not even that, but Oonoki can always allow Ay to fly. A flying V2 Raikage is a pretty deadly and versatile force. Which is also a rather convenient counter to the Swamp of the Underworld technique. . .

Pretty much really. Kages combo is deadly, even for Sannin.

 

[Beans2]

The Sannin have a shot when Jiraiya is fused with Ma and Pa. But, I fear that the Four Kages still have too much of an edge in this match up.

-Oonoki being capable of making the Raikage or Gaara's sand even quicker.

-Mei supplying covering fire and incredibly powerful suiton to help counter balance Jiraiya's katon.

- Oonoki being able to manipulate the earth to help out any of his allies if they come under fire or are caught off guard by a Sannin.

The combinations are amazing.

The kage are good at teamwork, but the Sannin have been training together their entire lives and can counter the Kage's abilities

-Gamabunta's oil renders Gaara's sand useless

-Suiton is swallowed by the Great fire-breathing Stone Toad of Mt Myoboukou or blocked with Oro's triple Rashomon

-Onoki's big Doton structures like Golem are sunk into the ground with Dark Swamp

-Mei's mist is blown away with Wind Release: Great Breakthrough

-Tsunade can use her chakra to greatly increase the size and scale of Jiraiya's techniques, like katons, dark swamp, etc

-All three Sannin are constantly getting healed by Tsunade/Katsuyu

-Gigantic Rasengan would probably finish Ay

-Sword of Kusanagi would nail Mei since she isn't quick and doesn't have reflexes/good defense

-Frog song genjutsu would end all 4 kage at once

-Flying Raikage is not that big of a threat. Tsunade tanks it, Jiraiya dodges it with Frog Kata reflexes and nails Onoki or Raikage with a rasengan. And an attack of that level isn't really going to affect Oro, but oral rebirth can happen if necessary