Characters who acheived without "destiny"

[360NoScopeKamui]

The revelation about Naruto being Ashura's incarnation has caused a lot of people to reexamine Neji's belief in fate/predestination; sure, Naruto worked hard, but he had so many things going for him (incredible reservoir of power sealed in his body, superior genetic heritage, child of prophecy, trained by several elite shinobi, etc).

So, that being said, which Naruto characters still prove that you can achieve great strength without being a "child of destiny"?

I'll start with the most obvious: Might Gai. Lacking ability as a child with ninjutsu or genjutsu and hailing from what seemed to be a laughable background, he trained his ass off until he became an elite Jounin. He passed down this ethos to Rock Lee, who also became a powerful shinobi despite his handicaps.

 

[Ken Masters]

Actually this Indra-Ashura thing feels like crap. It shouldn't have been introduced

 

[take it easy]

sakura. nuff said

 

[Erebus]

Sasori, Kakashi, Orochimaru

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

I see were you are going I would say that Gai and Lee are the most hard working and desrving shinobi in the world of Naruto coming from absolute worthless to being able to almost Solo Juubidara in battle whom Fodderized Minato, Senju bro's, all Biju, and so on and Rock Lee Being the ablsolute Green Beast he is is commendable indeed!

 

[fandum]

Isn't everything destiny or fate?

 

[Sugiyama]

lee and gai of course!:x3:
but there 's others like: minato,hiruzen...and so many others i don't recall

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

I would also say Obito He was basically a Fodder Uchiha and now is past Kage level even made all biju his *****... Nuff Sais(and leave sakura out she Fodder)

 

[Nattana]

Orochimaru, Kabuto and Gai.

 

[Valhorus]

Minato , Gai etc the guys are not even from a powerful clans.

 

[paratise]

Lee, Gai, Orochimaru, Sakura, Gaara, Neji, Kabuto, Sasori, Kisame, Deidara, Kakuzu.

 

[wiediehyuuga]

Yeah guy and sakura, sakura surprised me coz she's just 'regular' but she could learn a part of tsunade's healing ability and konohamaru (he knows more jutsu than naruto knew at his age but maybe that's just the anime so idk)

 

[360NoScopeKamui]

For the people saying Orochimaru, doesn't Jiraiya fit better? Orochimaru was praised as a "once in a lifetime genius," whereas Jiraiya was originally the slacker of the Sannin.

But then again, Jiraiya was predicted to have some involvement with the "child of prophecy," so he doesn't really fit either.

 

[Anorien16]

When u use concepts of 'Destiny' u are actually dealing with thing beyond things that u may say ..... It might have destiny dictated that Gai would be incapable to Nin and Gen so that he would focus on Taijutsu .... Maybe destiny dictated that Oro would lose his parents to plant the seeds of his obession etc. .....

Similarly the opposite that the destiny matters to shit with out effort from a indivisual: There have been many Asura and Kurama hosts but they actually didnt make an impact such as Naruto did they?

 

[awesomeseimei]

Wouldn't it make anyone who isn't a reincarnation of Indra/Asura?

 

[Jayy]

sakura. nuff said

Urm Sakura trained under the wing of Tsunade, who is the hokage and invented medical Justu... Think about it, how many people get the chance to be a Hokages apprentice ? ??????

 

[360NoScopeKamui]

Urm Sakura trained under the wing of Tsunade, who is the hokage and invented medical Justu... Think about it, how many people get the chance to be a Hokages apprentice ? ������

Shizune got that chance, and Sakura's way better than Shizune. So you've gotta give Sakura credit for her hard work, especially being able to use the Byakugou.

 

[360NoScopeKamui]

Wouldn't it make anyone who isn't a reincarnation of Indra/Asura?

Well, there are other types of "destiny" in the NV. Being born a "genius," i.e. having superior ability from birth because of genetics. Doesn't always work seamlessly (see: the power gap between Hiruzen and Asuma), of course. Having a bijuu gives you a tragic destiny, but it also gives you access to a tremendous power than most people don't possess.

And, as Jayy stated, you can be groomed for greatness. Hiruzen, for example, was trained from a young age by both Hashirama and Tobirama.

 

[KingHashirama]

Some people really have no clue about what destiny is. So let me get this right... you are telling me naruto without going through the pakn and doin his hardwork... wpuld have become the hokage? Or even where he is roght now?

So ur dad was in the navy...you work your ass off to be in the navy and work hard as helll.. and finally achieve Beimg in the navy... you are tellinge u were destined? Rofl



Destined is nothing but an excuse for the weak to feel sad for themselves.

 

[TrollingSage]

Being an incarnation of Ashura doesnt mean you're destined for greatness, seeing as Ashura himself was born "weak and "useless" and worked his ass off for his power.