why was hashirama stronger than madara if he had the weaker brothers chakra

[V h o]

Only the ideals matter. The sage even said that Naruto was different than the previous reincarnations.

 

[bigfatloser]

Nah. The Sage said once Ashura got the cooperation of others, and with suffering and hard training, his chakra bloomed

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. Hashirama was in a time of constant war, he already knew great suffering from the lost of his brothers and clannies, they worked together so he had the cooperation of his clan (he became it's leader) and of course he would had trained. Hashirama also had special abilities as well that was his, being a reincarnation doesn't mean you will have all the same aspects as the 1st, look at Naruto, Uzumaki clan is distant relatives of the Senjus yet Ashura went from Senju to Uzumaki but Naruto doesn't have wood jutsu, self healing ability, water element or earth element. The host can possess their own unique abilities that can make them stronger or weaker.

yea that's what i was saying, maybe the powers they already had made them stronger

 

[The One Above All]

Nah. The Sage said once Ashura got the cooperation of others, and with suffering and hard training, his chakra bloomed

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. Hashirama was in a time of constant war, he already knew great suffering from the lost of his brothers and clannies, they worked together so he had the cooperation of his clan (he became it's leader) and of course he would had trained. Hashirama also had special abilities as well that was his, being a reincarnation doesn't mean you will have all the same aspects as the 1st, look at Naruto, Uzumaki clan is distant relatives of the Senjus yet Ashura went from Senju to Uzumaki but Naruto doesn't have wood jutsu, self healing ability, water element or earth element. The host can possess their own unique abilities that can make them stronger or weaker.

agreed...people dnt seem to understand what they are reading which is sad

 

[NarutoB]

are we reading the same manga

Are you reading one where people are just born with the capability to become Hoakge level?

If so then yes.

Hashirama obviously had to work hard to become stronger than Madara

 

[The One Above All]

Are you reading one where people are just born with the capability to become Hoakge level?

If so then yes.

Hashirama obviously had to work hard to become stronger than Madara

well uchiha and senju were exceptional types of people and hiruzen did say a child itachi has the reasoning skills of a hokage and itachi graduated the academy at the age of 6 and became anbu leader when he was like 13 so to answer your question some people are born with the talent to achieve that level...but i do believe hard work beats talent when talent doesnt work hard...

 

[Jimihendrix]

what part of late bloomer implies his chakra wasn't as strong if not stronger than Indra's??
I swear people on this site don't read the ****ing manga. Go back and re read last week's chapter, swine

 

[maniaoqan]

Ashura wasn't weaker than Indra as stated by RS. He was equal when they fought. He's hardworker so he trained hard to achive that power, Indra was genius so he leveled up faster than his little bro. That doesn't make one superior to another. Quit with this fapping !!

I'm sick of this Indra>Ashura therefor Sasuke>Naruto and the other way arround shit. They're all equal. Even Hashirama and Madara was equal. Hashirama won the fight with quite high diff. After fight over he collapsed. It wasn't like he crushed Madara.

It felt nice to let it out feeling better now

 

[Bronze]

Hashirama had only defeated Madara once in their final battle.

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

The basis of Yin and Yang is that the balance is constantly in flux. Which is why in some generations Ashura's reincarnation could be more powerful (/talented in Hashirama's case), and in others Indra's would be. Naruto and Sasuke are to circumvent this as equals.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Ideals is what matter and plus the reincarnations are diffirent, Sage said Naruto is not like the other ones.

 

[KidGamer65]

1. They were on par.

2. Their reincarnation's strength pattern doesn't have to match their own strength pattern.