Strongest Akatsuki pair?

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Guys Obito carries that team, all Zetsu does is supply extra limbs.

Other than that, Zetsu paired with anybody weaker would lose.
 

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not to mention spiral zetsus feats.
I wasn't gonna counter spiral zetsu tbh. Was just counting Black-white zetsu on their own; the ones who actually wear the akatsuki cloak. spiral zetsu's current feats are radical, but he does have someone inside him that he's controlling.
 

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not to mention spiral zetsus feats.

By Zetsu i'm referring to Black and white combined, no spiral zetsu here.

obito/zetsu imo.
Zetsu's skills are vastly overlooked.

- The guy's mayfly makes him undetectable by even the best sensors.
- The guy's capable of using spores to restrict an opponent and suck their chakra away. he's so good at using the spores that even sensors didn't detect them.
- The guy's capable of using clones that can copy someone down to their chakra. In a group battle, zetsu easily infiltrates the other team and assassinates.
- The guy's capable of moving at extremely high speeds with mayfly
- The guy can use mokuton and mokuton roots that he can spring at the opponent's foot.
- The guy can infiltrate someone's body.

adding obito makes them a pain in the ass to fight.

Really good points, but I do want to clarify something.

This is only black/white zetsu, so turning in to an exact replica of someone won't really help here. Otherwise you make extremely valid points.
 

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By Zetsu i'm referring to Black and white combined, no spiral zetsu here.

obito/zetsu imo.
Zetsu's skills are vastly overlooked.



Really good points, but I do want to clarify something.

This is only black/white zetsu, so turning in to an exact replica of someone won't really help here. Otherwise you make extremely valid points.

why won't turning into an exact replica help? that's white zetsu's feat. White-black zetsu can split off individually. If it's a team fight, white zetsu can transform and kill the other team from the inside.
 

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I wasn't gonna counter spiral zetsu tbh. Was just counting Black-white zetsu on their own; the ones who actually wear the akatsuki cloak. spiral zetsu's current feats are radical, but he does have someone inside him that he's controlling.

How do we know that?
 

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How do we know that?

it's already been ... spiral zetsu on his own is a hollow shell. There's clearly someone in there that's either working with him or he's controlling. but i'm more inclined to believe he's controlling yamato.
 

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it's already been ... spiral zetsu on his own is a hollow shell. There's clearly someone in there that's either working with him or he's controlling. but i'm more inclined to believe he's controlling yamato.
We can't just speculate that his attack power is being boosted or anything until that's actually shown though.
 

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We can't just speculate that his attack power is being boosted or anything until that's actually shown though.
there's literally 0 reason for SZ to use someone's body for anything but . SZ's quite capable on his own and even stated that he's than kid obito. In fact, SZ's just a , so the other zetsu should technically be able to do what he's doing if this were his own power.
 

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What is stopping Kisame and Itachi from doing the same?

Kisame has the most chakra and arguably the most destructive power after Pain and Konan(with prep time). If you ask why didn't Kisame do a giant water attack in part 1, that's because they were hunting for Naruto and needed him alive.

Konoha was also surprise attacked + No Jman + No team Gai (8 gated Gai would have shat on Pain and that's likely why Kishi left them out in the Pain invasion arc).

Also Konoha did win. They had no intel on pain besides linked vision and Jiraiya's message "the real one isn't there". While Pain was battling Konoha they were getting intel which Naruto recieved and was the key to him defeating all pains except Tendo. Then the 9 tails finished the job by pushing Nagato to his final limits. You are right that he did do a huge blow to the village though, no denying that.

I was just giving an example.
Nor Itachi nor Kisame are portrayed as being on the same level (Itachi may be close but Kisame ain't even near).
Realistically, there's no way they could've done the same thing, w/ or w/o intel. Kakashi would be a match for Itachi, while Naruto could handle Kisame. With Tsunade, K11 and the rest of konoha's troups, there would be no chance for them.
Pein was the real 'big bad' of that arc and (supposedly at the time) the leader of Akatsuki (therefore Itachi's boss), that alone shows who's above.
 

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Obito and Zetsu are the best, and with utmost ease at that.

Pein/Konan is second.
 

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Spiral Zetsu is not part of the Akatsuki, so i have no idea why fools are portraying him as white Zetsu, when he is a complete different entity.

Itachi and Kisame are the strongest.
 

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We can't just speculate that his attack power is being boosted or anything until that's actually shown though.

Zetsu did say the 'insides' were surprisingly good.

I guess that implies he was drawing power from whatever was inside him.
 

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Spiral Zetsu is not part of the Akatsuki, so i have no idea why fools are portraying him as white Zetsu, when he is a complete different entity.

Itachi and Kisame are the strongest.

Agree for the most part, except I believe they are the second strongest after #1 Obito and his tool box called black/white zetsu.
 
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there's literally 0 reason for SZ to use someone's body for anything but . SZ's quite capable on his own and even stated that he's than kid obito. In fact, SZ's just a , so the other zetsu should technically be able to do what he's doing if this were his own power.

When i said his i was referring to zetsu not the person inside, so we agree here.....
 

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Spiral Zetsu is not part of the Akatsuki, so i have no idea why fools are portraying him as white Zetsu, when he is a complete different entity.

Itachi and Kisame are the strongest.

Agree with this.
 

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Spiral Zetsu is not part of the Akatsuki, so i have no idea why fools are portraying him as white Zetsu, when he is a complete different entity.

Itachi and Kisame are the strongest.

In a lot of versus threads, most people give his feats to zetsu since they are basically made up of the same thing. Both from Hashi's DNA, etc. etc. But OP didn't specify. And IIRC, i was the only one to talk about spiral. I don't know for sure though. But you could have quoted me or said something directly to me if i'm who you're talking about.
 

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In a lot of versus threads, most people give his feats to zetsu since they are basically made up of the same thing. Both from Hashi's DNA, etc. etc. But OP didn't specify. And IIRC, i was the only one to talk about spiral. I don't know for sure though. But you could have quoted me or said something directly to me if i'm who you're talking about.

There're not from the same thing, otherwise, they would look the same. White Zetsu was stated to be a fail experiment by Madara. Since Spiral Zetsu was shown to use Shinsuusenju, then we can say he is much stronger version. No you weren't the one i am talking to directly. I meant for everyone who said Obito & Zetsu.
 

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There're not from the same thing, otherwise, they would look the same. White Zetsu was stated to be a fail experiment by Madara. Since Spiral Zetsu was shown to use Shinsuusenju, then we can say he is much stronger version. No you weren't the one i am talking to directly. I meant for everyone who said Obito & Zetsu.

White Zetsu wasn't the failed experiment, he was the finished one. Otherwise Obito's Akatsuki partner would be Spiral. They're made up of the same thing. They're both Zetsus. It's like saying that Black and White Zetsu despite being together they are different characters so you can't count him as one person in a debate.
 

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Pain and Konan because they have been together the longest and have the most experience fighting with each other. If not them then it's Itachi and Kisame.
 

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Pain and Konan because they have been together the longest and have the most experience fighting with each other. If not them then it's Itachi and Kisame.

Good point on Konan& Pain.
 
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