[VS] BSM naruto vs EMS madara

[ARGUS]

I've come to realize that the base is full of people who put Madara above Naruto simply because he's Madara and don't give it any thought. Even if Naruto gets a full juubi, they're still going to say Madara>Naruto.

The base is filled with ppl who are ignorant,,and since all the comments here are mostly opinion based,,, ppl will never change,,,
as for the topic,, Madaras PS slashes can pierce Mountains,,however Narutos TBB can dwarf them,,and this is without the addition of SM,,
so while PS and Kurama avatar may have comparable durability with PS having a slight advantage,,the offense of BSM is higher

 

[makosheva7]

I'd say BSM Naruto overpowers EMS Madara as I agree BSM TBB > EMS Madara PS.

 

[Unorthodox]

perfect susanoo > bm durability & offensive skill canon clearly showns bm equal to a v2 standing susanoo

 

[Latios]

Can't Madara use Yasaka Magatama?

 

[Sennin of Logic]

perfect susanoo > bm durability & offensive skill canon clearly showns bm equal to a v2 standing susanoo

Lol no. Cannon shows BSM attacking the same target as a SM enhanced V3 susanoo. It in no way demonstrates them being equal. This is merely unfounded interpretation in a desperate attempt to refute Madara's statement. By this logic, Kakashi with lightning blade equals 6th gated Guy, which is clearly not the case.

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Also, by this logic, a mere slap from BM Naruto equals a sword from a V3 susanoo, and only an arrow can equal TBB.

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It's a completely invalid line of thinking and does not prove anything. However, Madara, who's the haughty type, said that a slash of a Perfect Susanoo only rivals bijus. This, unlike "parallels" is a solid piece of proof that cannot be denied unless manga fact are ignored.

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Sm enhanced TBB>PS Slash. Pure and simple.

 

[Benjamin King]

Madara little difficulty. Naruto is too weak against Perfect Susanoo.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Madara little difficulty. Naruto is too weak against Perfect Susanoo.

How is a Sage enhanced Bijuu too weak against a perfect Susanoo?

 

[Benjamin King]

How is a Sage enhanced Bijuu too weak against a perfect Susanoo?

-Its defense wont survive few slashes of PS.
-Its offence(TBB) will be tanked effortlessly, as PS tanked TBB from 100% Kurama without damage. Also, TBB requires prep time, and PS slashes are too fast and it will disturb the chakra ratio.

 

[Unorthodox]

Lol no. Cannon shows BSM attacking the same target as a SM enhanced V3 susanoo. It in no way demonstrates them being equal. This is merely unfounded interpretation in a desperate attempt to refute Madara's statement. By this logic, Kakashi with lightning blade equals 6th gated Guy, which is clearly not the case.

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Also, by this logic, a mere slap from BM Naruto equals a sword from a V3 susanoo, and only an arrow can equal TBB.

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It's a completely invalid line of thinking and does not prove anything. However, Madara, who's the haughty type, said that a slash of a Perfect Susanoo only rivals bijus. This, unlike "parallels" is a solid piece of proof that cannot be denied unless manga fact are ignored.

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Sm enhanced TBB>PS Slash. Pure and simple.

BSM showed no superior feats know they were saying kakashi & gai were equals as a hole same with those susanoo tbb with senjutsu makes no difference they are cut to pieces or grabbed in thrown back

How is a Sage enhanced Bijuu too weak against a perfect Susanoo?

-Its defense wont survive few slashes of PS.
-Its offence(TBB) will be tanked effortlessly, as PS tanked TBB from 100% Kurama without damage. Also, TBB requires prep time, and PS slashes are too fast and it will disturb the chakra ratio.

again besides in canon madara only shown to use 1 ps sword if he uses all 4 gg naruto

 

[Sennin of Logic]

-Its defense wont survive few slashes of PS.
-Its offence(TBB) will be tanked effortlessly, as PS tanked TBB from 100% Kurama without damage. Also, TBB requires prep time, and PS slashes are too fast and it will disturb the chakra ratio.

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2. Sorry, but 100% Kurama<<<< BSM Kurama. And that "tanking feat" was when he intercepted it with swords.

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Curse mark is a fake Sage mode. Therefore BSM's power is over 5X as great as full Kurama's. TBBs require barely any prep time and can be used quickly as shown in the manga on several occasions.

BSM showed no superior feats know they were saying kakashi & gai were equals as a hole same with those susanoo tbb with senjutsu makes no difference they are cut to pieces or grabbed in thrown back





again besides in canon madara only shown to use 1 ps sword if he uses all 4 gg naruto

Feats are unnecessary as Madara himself stated that his Perfect Susanoo only rivals bijus. "Feats" are only required when statements are unclear, which it's not. What you're actually doing is denying manga facts in favor of Madara and Sasuke.

Uh, no, that in no way proves them equal. It's clear when it comes to power, that Guy's better.


They're not thrown back lol. Now you're getting ridiculous. 4 Susanoo swords? That's nice, but with Senjutsu, Naruto's TBBs are enhanced over 10X. Meaning even with 4 swords, it gets overpowered. Also....

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4 Susanoo swords VS 5 TBBs enhanced 10X beyond their normal potential. Clear winner: Naruto.

 

[Benjamin King]

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2. Sorry, but 100% Kurama<<<< BSM Kurama. And that "tanking feat" was when he intercepted it with swords.

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Curse mark is a fake Sage mode. Therefore BSM's power is over 5X as great as full Kurama's. TBBs require barely any prep time and can be used quickly as shown in the manga on several occasions.

Destructive attack /=/ Cutting attack. Prime example being, Hachibi tanking its TBB, yet its tails were cut easily by Shuriken and Chidori. Sorry, but Naruto's BM defense gets slashed in half by 2 or 3 slashes of PS at best.

Nope. Jirobo's physical strength has increased 10x times fold. Not that his techniques got powered up to that level. Prime example, Naruto's base Rasengan has the same raw power as his Sennin Mode state. Sorry, 100% Kurama's TBB > BSM TBB. PS tanks anything Naruto throws.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Destructive attack /=/ Cutting attack. Prime example being, Hachibi tanking its TBB, yet its tails were cut easily by Shuriken and Chidori. Sorry, but Naruto's BM defense gets slashed in half by 2 or 3 slashes of PS at best.

Nope. Jirobo's physical strength has increased 10x times fold. Not that his techniques got powered up to that level. Prime example, Naruto's base Rasengan has the same raw power as his Sennin Mode state. Sorry, 100% Kurama's TBB > BSM TBB. PS tanks anything Naruto throws.

1. We've never seen a biju cloak being vulnerable to cutting attacks.


2. Do you guys underrate Naruto and ignore manga fact for a living?

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"Serious powerup." That right there slaughters your statement.


Base ransengan compared to Sage art:ransengan

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Very very clear difference. If that's not 10X stronger, it's pretty darn close.

 

[Benjamin King]

1. We've never seen a biju cloak being vulnerable to cutting attacks.


2. Do you guys underrate Naruto and ignore manga fact for a living?

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"Serious powerup." That right there slaughters your statement.


Base ransengan compared to Sage art:ransengan

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Very very clear difference. If that's not 10X stronger, it's pretty darn close.

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Author's inconsistency nothing more. Base Rasengan [

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[Sennin of Logic]

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Author's inconsistency nothing more. Base Rasengan [

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1. Bee is not a valid example. 2. V2 cloak<Kurama cloak.

2. Denial at its finest. Manga fact, there's a huge difference between senjutsu attacks and normal ones. Not even debatable, you are wrong. So are you actually implying that SM only enhances strength? lol. I should have known Uchiha fans were going to underrate sage mode to death when he fused it with BM.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

BM Naruto was already more than enough for this.​

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[Forbidden Tale]

How can Naruto stomps high diff??

EMS Madara mid to high diff.
It was said that PS Slash rival TBB. TBB need preperation time, Madara to do slash just have to swing a sword. Plus, he have better mobility in PS than Naruto.

 

[Benjamin King]

1. Bee is not a valid example. 2. V2 cloak<Kurama cloak.

2. Denial at its finest. Manga fact, there's a huge difference between senjutsu attacks and normal ones. Not even debatable, you are wrong. So are you actually implying that SM only enhances strength? lol. I should have known Uchiha fans were going to underrate sage mode to death when he fused it with BM.

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Lol, its sad when Nardo bias fanboys claim his SM techniques are 10x times stronger than full Kurama. Take your crap to the fanfiction section where it belongs. PS > BSM. End of discussion.

 

[Unorthodox]

1. Bee is not a valid example. 2. V2 cloak<Kurama cloak.

2. Denial at its finest. Manga fact, there's a huge difference between senjutsu attacks and normal ones. Not even debatable, you are wrong. So are you actually implying that SM only enhances strength? lol. I should have known Uchiha fans were going to underrate sage mode to death when he fused it with BM.

the same bsm cloak the was no more when the dust arous

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stop overrated that durability ps shockwaves rocks it also saying curse mark is a off brand version of sage mode please because its gathers natural energy doesnt mean its a weaker version of sm fk out hea

 

[VongolaX]

Madara and Hashirama were said to have the ability to control bijuus.

Madara would destroy BSM Naruto

Naruto's sagemode is just a little enhancement to his techniques.

 

[Zee U]

Naruto's avatar has the firepower advantage (Super Bijuudama equals 5 normal Bijuudamas who are mountain busters) but PS is more durable (since the BSM Avatar is around equal in terms of durability of a CS V3 legged Susanoo). They have no way of winning in a chakrazord battle.

Naruto could possibly pull a win if his time limit has increased since the last time. Otherwise it goes to Madara if he can mantain his PS longer than Naruto's avatar.