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Some string theory physicians say that we indeed live in a Blackhole, and the string theory, which is the explanation we give most things nowdays, accepts both big jill and big crunch as "endings" for the universe.

Again, this is not an truthful explanation but a theory. Science is not the end-all of knowledge production and your original question of why we debate things we don't know is now very confusing, the Big Bang/Crunch is not something we can know, we don't have empirical data for these events, and again subjectivity remains. All we can do is debate the known unknown until it can be tested and repeated until we know the limits of possible answers.
 

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Ease up on the gas son. Your statements are wrong.
First: the definition of counciouness is to phisically feel the world and from the feelings (like vision and gustation), interpret it with the usage of logic.
Second: it's possible to cure all diseases, but cures for AIDS and the common flu do not "exist" because some diseases were created in labs to depopulate certain places (like Africa, which has an uncontrollable vegetative growth).
Third: We can achieve immortality by several ways.
Fourth: Our universe is a small piece of a giant puzzles of universes. When one or two collapse, they'll form a big bang.
Fifth: Jesus lived and science can disproove the existence of god by several manners.
Sixth: Gravity is the distortion of space because of a massive object

Woah.
Woah.
Now hold the **** up
The common flu
Was created
To wipe out...what are you even saying?


Chocolate>poon tang.

Eh you can't really make this claim because you don't know. ;)
 

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I feel like you completely glossed over the point because you simply explained the process of both actions rather than explaining a human's predisposition towards one.

In any case, there are fields of philosophy that are geared toward morality and they don't really step on science's toes at all. Why do you consider it harmful?

I don't consider philosophy harmful, I consider stupity harmful. If you read the title you've noticed I'm talking about philosophy threads, not philosophy as a whole. In fact, the principle of discussing is the key to science. That's why we know that our hearts aren't coal driven. But I hate when people talk about things that are already well known (for example: "What is love?" and I'm just ike, "oxytocin, you cheeky dumb nut."
 

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You're getting philosophal.........Anyway... We could get artificial means to have fun (like injecting oxytocin directly to our veins, or using LSD).

You said your science will explain love. Well, if everyone is the same as it would be in your world of pure science and no philosophy, how can love exist? You love someone based on the fact that who they are, their personality, actions and mannerisms, appeal to you on a separate and greater level than anyone else's in the world. But if everyone is the same, how can you fall in love? There will be no love. Therefore, love shouldn't exist. But, your science can explain. At this point, it explains what doesn't exist, a hypothetical situation and concept. At that moment, your science branches into philosophy. Therefore, as long as science exists, so will philosophy.
 

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Again, this is not an truthful explanation but a theory. Science is not the end-all of knowledge production and your original question of why we debate things we don't know is now very confusing, the Big Bang/Crunch is not something we can know, we don't have empirical data for these events, and again subjectivity remains. All we can do is debate the known unknown until it can be tested and repeated until we know the limits of possible answers.

mmmmmmm i'm sorry but there are mathmatical formulas that will prove things. when you get your sum wrong your theory will get beaten (when the M theory said that the sum of all integers is -1/12)
 

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Woah.
Woah.
Now hold the **** up
The common flu
Was created
To wipe out...what are you even saying?




Eh you can't really make this claim because you don't know. ;)

Enlighten me.
 

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Woah.
Woah.
Now hold the **** up
The common flu
Was created
To wipe out...what are you even saying?


It's not me. It's one of NATO's former director secretary that released this to public.
 

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You said your science will explain love. Well, if everyone is the same as it would be in your world of pure science and no philosophy, how can love exist? You love someone based on the fact that who they are, their personality, actions and mannerisms, appeal to you on a separate and greater level than anyone else's in the world. But if everyone is the same, how can you fall in love? There will be no love. Therefore, love shouldn't exist. But, your science can explain. At this point, it explains what doesn't exist, a hypothetical situation and concept. At that moment, your science branches into philosophy. Therefore, as long as science exists, so will philosophy.

you have a point
 

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I don't consider philosophy harmful, I consider stupity harmful. If you read the title you've noticed I'm talking about philosophy threads, not philosophy as a whole. In fact, the principle of discussing is the key to science. That's why we know that our hearts aren't coal driven. But I hate when people talk about things that are already well known (for example: "What is love?" and I'm just ike, "oxytocin, you cheeky dumb nut."

Then why you hatin' on philosophy in general homie

People make the threads because it interests them and it's fun to debate and people like to share their opinions. And believe it or not, some people actually have really interesting things to say.
 

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Can your science explain how something can just always exist? I want you to use your science in detail to explain to me fully how something can have no beginning and just flat-out exist all the time.

Your ignorance is one fine sample.
 

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You said your science will explain love. Well, if everyone is the same as it would be in your world of pure science and no philosophy, how can love exist? You love someone based on the fact that who they are, their personality, actions and mannerisms, appeal to you on a separate and greater level than anyone else's in the world. But if everyone is the same, how can you fall in love? There will be no love. Therefore, love shouldn't exist. But, your science can explain. At this point, it explains what doesn't exist, a hypothetical situation and concept. At that moment, your science branches into philosophy. Therefore, as long as science exists, so will philosophy.

siding with op mostly bcuz I like his username but love is just something we've developed because we've had the freedom to because our population has been secured. If it was any different it wouldn't really matter because we'd just be ****ing to make babies
 

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sorry idont mean to interrupt but i still i cant see how a thread about philosophy gets more posts then a thread about porno
 

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Then why you hatin' on philosophy in general homie

People make the threads because it interests them and it's fun to debate and people like to share their opinions. And believe it or not, some people actually have really interesting things to say.

Let me put this way. Let's say someone creates a thread with the title 1+1. The description goes:

"what do you guys think? what's your opinion? show me your very interesting opinion"

then you'll have some 3 or 4 pages about 1+1 speculations that range from marx's das capital to god and religion. but no one will ever mention the number 2.

see what i mean?
 

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sorry idont mean to interrupt but i still i cant see how a thread about philosophy gets more posts then a thread about porno

Don't worry I posted in the porno thread too
 

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I find myself agreeing with just about everything Riker said. I've never heard of someone having such a distaste for philosophy though. Philosophy is the love of wisdom though, simply wanting to learn more about the world can be considered philosophy depending on how you look at it.
 

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mmmmmmm i'm sorry but there are mathmatical formulas that will prove things. when you get your sum wrong your theory will get beaten (when the M theory said that the sum of all integers is -1/12)

First of all, mathematical formulas prove nothing. They prove that math exists and that we can cognitively make math make sense. It's Physics that puts it into application. Also, keep your theories closer together, are we talking M-Theory or string theory, again, one has been superseded by another not through testing, but through theoretical knowledge and debate, a philosophy of science.
 

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Let me put this way. Let's say someone creates a thread with the title 1+1. The description goes:

"what do you guys think? what's your opinion? show me your very interesting opinion"

then you'll have some 3 or 4 pages about 1+1 speculations that range from marx's das capital to god and religion. but no one will ever mention the number 2.

see what i mean?

Sure but it can still be interesting

Like they're not created for the general enlightenment of the world, and they don't claim to contain facts. Just people's interpretations of things
 
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