Recent Chapter makes Hashirama more powerful than Hagoromo

[Ken Masters]

We now know about much hyped Sage and his sons. Also his mother who ate the fruit. Now forget about the mother because she became a goddess and then a reaper. I'm talking about the Sage and his sons.

We now know that Sage needed his brother to seal the Juubi. A brother who was on par with him. And we also know that the Sage became the gdlk figure after he and his brother sealed the Juubi i.e. after being the Jinchuriki

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So the Legendary things appeared after he became the Jinchuriki and not before. Now lets talk about his sons- Indra and Ashura as seen are clearly not as strong as VOTE SM Hashirama and VOTE EMS Madara.

We also know that Hashirama (who isn't at his full power) was able to Pin-down [

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] the Juubi on his own with Mokuton-God-Gates so a sealing jutsu master such as Minato or Madara could easily have sealed the Juubi into himself and Hashirama if he wanted to.

Meaning what the sage and his brother achieved was actually achievable by Hashirama and a skilled sealing jutsu master. So whatever the sage did [as a non-jinchuriki] actually pales to what Hashirama could do!

Masashi now has done justice to what Kabuto said about Hashirama's powers being fairy-tale. His greatness can't be questioned

 

[CurseSealofEarth]

You are very confused.

First off, we did not see anywhere close to what Indra and Ashura's power was like so that's mere speculation.

And second, while Hashirama is indeed increadibly powerful he is not on par with the Sage. Though 2 people were required to take down the Juubi the first time there is nothing to claim that you could "easily" seal the Juubi in someone with Hashirama pinning it down.

 

[Booker]

Didn't read, this is stupid.

 

[TrollingSage]

You are very confused.

First off, we did not see anywhere close to what Indra and Ashura's power was like so that's mere speculation.

And second, while Hashirama is indeed increadibly powerful he is not on par with the Sage. Though 2 people were required to take down the Juubi the first time there is nothing to claim that you could "easily" seal the Juubi in someone with Hashirama pinning it down.

A half dead Obito did it with Hashirama pinning it down

 

[UltimateHawk]

The Juubi Hagoromo and his brother fought was 100% complete .The one hashirama fought wasnt even 50 %

 

[CurseSealofEarth]

A half dead Obito did it with Hashirama pinning it down

Now is not the time for you to take things seriously. Can't you see in trying to win an argument?

Back to what I was saying: Who is to say that it was a difficult fight between the Sage Bros. And the Juubi?

 

[TrollingSage]

Now is not the time for you to take things seriously. Can't you see in trying to win an argument?

Back to what I was saying: Who is to say that it was a difficult fight between the Sage Bros. And the Juubi?

LOL. I don't even agree with the OP I just like playing Devil's advocate

 

[-immortal-]

Didn't read, this is stupid.

Second this. Not funny

 

[Ken Masters]

You are very confused.

First off, we did not see anywhere close to what Indra and Ashura's power was like so that's mere speculation.

And second, while Hashirama is indeed increadibly powerful he is not on par with the Sage. Though 2 people were required to take down the Juubi the first time there is nothing to claim that you could "easily" seal the Juubi in someone with Hashirama pinning it down.

Madara sealed the Juubi within himself in one panel

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Obito sealed the Juubi within himself near death

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[Valhorus]

That wasn't even a full powered Juubi .

 

[Ken Masters]

Didn't read, this is stupid.

But it's the manga

The Juubi Hagoromo and his brother fought was 100% complete .The one hashirama fought wasnt even 50 %

No way of knowing this.

Second this. Not funny

It isn't meant to be funny

 

[Liquid Snake]

Are u stupid? Hashi need 3 other kages to pin down an imperfect first form of the juubi hago fought the god tree at full power sealed it in himself broke down its chakra into 9 pieces created ninshu for peace and made the moon. Madara has the power of the brother right now and he would destroy hashi like obito did his clone now the sage is stronger than his brother because he is the legend the same way hashi is to tobirama. Now soon naruto will surpass hashi and the sage is on a different lvl then hashi sorry dude

 

[KingHashirama]

I agree, but people will troll nonetheless, without countering your reasoning or reading the OP.

Hashirama has something stronger than the rinnegan to my belief, and with it i doubt he can be considered weaker than non-juubi jin Rikudou.

Plus lets not forget now we know what actually happened, he needed his bro's help who was equally as powerful as him.

That wasn't even a full powered Juubi .

There really isn't a huge difference just so you know.....

 

[Ken Masters]

That wasn't even a full powered Juubi .

Hashirama wasn't at full power as well. And also There were two brothers. If there were two Hashirama's then full powered Juubi means nothing

 

[TrollKing]

Hashirama failed to get rid of this 50% jubi with the help of 20k++ people

 

[Valhorus]

I agree, but people will troll nonetheless, without countering your reasoning or reading the OP.

Hashirama has something stronger than the rinnegan to my belief, and with it i doubt he can be considered weaker than non-juubi jin Rikudou.

Plus lets not forget now we know what actually happened, he needed his bro's help who was equally as powerful as him.



There really isn't a huge difference just so you know.....

No Big Diff ? Sure ofc . 50% = 100% .

 

[Ken Masters]

Are u stupid? Hashi need 3 other kages to pin down an imperfect first form of the juubi hago fought the god tree at full power sealed it in himself broke down its chakra into 9 pieces created ninshu for peace and made the moon. Madara has the power of the brother right now and he would destroy hashi like obito did his clone now the sage is stronger than his brother because he is the legend the same way hashi is to tobirama. Now soon naruto will surpass hashi and the sage is on a different lvl then hashi sorry dude

The barrier was put to save the alliance, Hashirama opened the barrier after he pinned the Juubi down by his God-Gates. These are the facts, rest of your post it BS

I agree, but people will troll nonetheless, without countering your reasoning or reading the OP.

Hashirama has something stronger than the rinnegan to my belief, and with it i doubt he can be considered weaker than non-juubi jin Rikudou.

Plus lets not forget now we know what actually happened, he needed his bro's help who was equally as powerful as him.



There really isn't a huge difference just so you know.....

Thanks for your support

 

[Valhorus]

The ammount of stupidness in this thread is over 9000 .

 

[Ken Masters]

No Big Diff ? Sure ofc . 50% = 100% .

Sage + Brother of sage > 100% Juubi

Hashirama alone > 50% Juubi

This is the main difference

Hashirama failed to get rid of this 50% jubi with the help of 20k++ people

Actually he was about to but Naruto wanted to save the Bijjus so there was a dely and Obito steeped in

 

[Xāvî1]

Didn't read, this is stupid.

exactly this