No one can break Itachi's tsukuyomi

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That is your opinion. A foolish one as that.who suffered more ws never up for discussion.
You asked how long and bogard gave you the answer.

Troll elsewhere please.

You are not understanding it, I'm condescending myself to your level. If who suffer more never up for question, then you shouldn't be talking about tsukuyomi varies in power(longer or shorter), the whole thing just stupid lol
 

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You are not understanding it, I'm condescending myself to your level. If who suffer more never up for question, then you shouldn't be talking about tsukuyomi varies in power(longer or shorter), the whole thing just stupid lol

Nobody said it varied in power.
Only you.
You asked how long. We gave you the answer. You chose to ignore it.
 

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Nobody said it varied in power.
Only you.
You asked how long. We gave you the answer. You chose to ignore it.

Nope somebody already stated kakashi received full force of tsukuyomi, implying everyone else didn't take on full force
 

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Nope somebody already stated kakashi received full force of tsukuyomi, implying everyone else didn't take on full force

Fine.
I didn't say that.
You should address that person not me.
 

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Itachi sure didn't want to defeat him with the move so he made sure that Sasuke could get out.
 

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Sennin Modo Jiraiya, Naruto, and Minato can break it via Shima and Fukasaku's constant chakra flow of Sennin chakra within them.
 

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Sennin Modo Jiraiya, Naruto, and Minato can break it via Shima and Fukasaku's constant chakra flow of Sennin chakra within them.

Constant flow of chakra =/= Chakra disruption.
Kabuto would have no reason to close his eyes
 

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Constant flow of chakra =/= Chakra disruption.
Kabuto would have no reason to close his eyes

Foreign chakra being injected into a user under a genjutsu breaks them. Since the constant chakra flow is foreign chakra, it fits the description.

Kabuto? Kabuto doesn't have Shima or Fukasaku's chakra flowing in him along with Sennin chakra.
 

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Any skilled Uchiha can break out of it. Sasuke did this with only 3 tomoe Sharingan.
 

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But to break out of something, you must get the time to break it in the first place. Since a Uchiha(with Sharingan and blood related like you say) can break tsukuyomi according to Itachi, it means that inside the genjutsu a Uchiha can attempt to break it during the tsukuyomi world time(24hrs for example). From my understanding of Itachi's statement, he only meant that the genjutsu is too strong to be broken for non-Uchihas, not that they don't have time to attempt a break out. The instant thing only is an issue for an outsider attempting to save the victim using the partner method. It's basically the point i'm trying to bring up here

Well I didn't really get that Itachi was saying his genjutsu is to strong for non-Uchihas. I think he was saying it's invincible and only a Uchiha who is a skilled sharigan user can break it.
 

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First of all, I read your complete thread Bogard, up until the last poster. Aka, king flaws. First of all, good job. You're probably right. However, I would like to add on to this a bit.

Sasuke is implied to have used Tsukuyomi here.
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Obviously, this technique hurt Killer Bee, even if Sasuke isn't as effective at it. As danzo said here.
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While it's possible Jinchuriki can break out in a short while, they've still had a second of estimated 24 hours of perception of time alteration. So it does still hurt, but not enough to keep Killer Bee and Naruto down for example.

But to combat it COMPLETELY. Now, as people have pointed out. It most likely takes a MS/ems user to break out of it. But I think I know why. To truly break out of it, the person combatting Tsukuyomi, needs Tsukuyomi. That's why Itachi always said Sasuke needed ms to fight him. Both being able to alter the Tsukuyomi world, and harm people there. Basically, a Tsukuyomi fight.

Obviously, Itachi would win this as he is more genjutsu prone than Sasuke. However, maybe the Tsukuyomi fight between the two could give Sasuke enough time to break out without getting injured to badly or at all. Or maybe I'm just overthinking things.
 

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Foreign chakra being injected into a user under a genjutsu breaks them. Since the constant chakra flow is foreign chakra, it fits the description.

Kabuto? Kabuto doesn't have Shima or Fukasaku's chakra flowing in him along with Sennin chakra.

That's an incorrect assumption. To break a genjutsu you need to overpower the chakra in your brain, you need chakra disruption. We've seen Sakura and Tsunade supplimenting the jutsu of ninja by giving them chakra while they are casting abilities. That's not chakra disruption.

Kabuto implanted juugo's dna and constantly receives an external flow of chakra from nature itself

Chakra disruption is more akin to what pein's chakra disruption blades do to you
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Sasuke did break it but was Itachi really trying to kill him? That one second that it takes someone to notice that they're in Tsuki could probably be 1 year.
 

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Constant flow of chakra =/= Chakra disruption.
Kabuto would have no reason to close his eyes

Sadly not even an outer source of chakra can break it.. Kakashi said himself that once u are caught there's no escape.
 
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