Narutos power is not borrowed in a way!

[AlastorNazura17]

Like I said, everyone is using barrowed power. However; the difference between Naruto and Madara is that Madara has been fighting for all his life. He has experience, and he is skilled at taijutsu as well as he got the Rinnegan. Which is HIS.

Oh, I didn't know he was born a Senju and Uchiha to have the Rinnegan. The ***** took Hashirama's cells, and achieved Rinnegan. He borrowed power to achieve that, stop being damn bias. If that's the case then Bijuu Mode and Bijuu Sage Mode is Naruto's own power too then.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

And how is your scan connected with your statement about his inability to make Rasenshuriken without Kurama?

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You're not the only one

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[Henrik]

If you have read Naruto, you know that using Sennin Mode gives him 2 free Rasen Shurikens, and it's relevance is irrelevant to the topic of this thread, try harder bro =D

You misunderstand me.

Senjutsu was earned.
Bijuu mode/KMC was not. A.k.a barrowed power. The OP is saying that Kyuubi's chakra isn''t barrowed. Explain to me how i'm failing when i'm truly speaking facts? Bijuu powers are barrowed. Doesn't matter what way you look.

 

[Meee]

Certain fans still try to use the borrowed power argument... Okay then. Everyone has borrowed power from the God Tree.

Not really, If you were born after Rikudou Chakra was your birth right.

 

[Mari Makinami]

You misunderstand me.

Senjutsu was earned.
Bijuu mode/KMC was not. A.k.a barrowed power. The OP is saying that Kyuubi's chakra isn''t barrowed. Explain to me how i'm failing when i'm truly speaking facts? Bijuu powers are barrowed. Doesn't matter what way you look.

You fail with your following statements

1) that Naruto cant use Rasenshuriken without Kurama - I've proven you wrong with that manga scan

2) Naruto doesn't have anything that was not borrowed except for base rasengan

That's what I'm arguing with, I never said a word about KCM/BM

 

[Sennin of Logic]

If you have read Naruto, you know that Naruto had hard time making the rasen shuriken. And he was only able to create it first using all his chakra and a bit of Kyuubi's; if he didn't have Kyuubi then rasen shuriken wouldn't be possible.

And

Rasen shuriken is not relevant anymore because the powers used in the manga currently are 100 times stronger.

Reread the arc. Naruto learned it on his own. If you're referring to what happened with Kakazu, all that says is that Naruto can't use it in base without Kurama which is what happened anyway. Doesn't effect the fact that he can use it with SM.:bye:

 

[AlastorNazura17]

He wasn't. He was born as Uchiha and stole Senju power in order to UNLOCK the Rinnegan. Rinnegan is a part of the Sharingan.

Right right, whatever you tell yourself at night, son. You can't achieve Rinnegan just by being Uchiha, you need Senju cells; which he took from Hashirama. Please, you're trying to justify it with the word "stolen"? Gtfo. KCM was earned, he beat Kurama for his chakra. BM was him earning his trust, and mixing his own Chakra with Kurama's.

Get off your fanboy wagon, and blind hatred.

Madara borrowed/ stole power to get Rinnegan, it doesn't just happen by being an Uchiha alone. He has borrowed/ stolen power. You just have so much blind hatred for Naruto, or you're a hardcore Uchiha fanboy that you can't admit it.

 

[ekichi onizuka]

no. Every ninja that has chakra has it stolen from the tree kishi made that very clear so it doesn't matter.

 

[Tobi98]

The max Naruto went with his own strenght was KCM and SM, KCM was the max Naruto could control of Kyuubi's chakra, so it's still his power

 

[Senpou]

Well arguing about this is truly futile at this point IMO. Whats done is done #preach

OT: He earned it lol.

 

[parathunder2]

KCM was not borrowed, only haters would deny this since it was forcibly taken. People are also mindlessly hating if they think needing Kurama's consent for BM makes Naruto's skill in using it invalid since Sasuke remarked at how much control he had over that enormous chakra remarking that it was an incredible feat. Sasuke can see Kurama inside of Naruto, so he'd know if it was Kurama.


Naruto's technically using borrowed power, but it's power he deserves. I think Naruto said it best in part 1

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Exactly! This ^

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Actually only SM and KCM are Naruto's power,BM/BSM is not since Kurama needs to given him chakra.But who cares if he has borrowed power or not since it takes nothing away from Naruto's feats.

 

[UltimateHawk]

Haters are so stupid nowadays. How about sennin mode? Rasenshuriken? You can't even troll properly. How futile =D

And kyuubi chakra mode he needed to defeat kurama in order to get that power

 

[TonyDawn1379]

So you think Naruto can make bijuu bombs without kurama?

All of his powers are barrowed. Expect for one. Rasengan.

you say naruto's powers are borrowed ? then i say sasuke's sharingan is borrowed ! and if you say he was born with it. then i say that the whole uchiha clan borrowed the sharingan from so6p ..... and if you don't accept that then i say sasuke's EMS are borrowed and without it . he would be blind by now . even konuohamru would beat him haha

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

you say naruto's powers are borrowed ? then i say sasuke's sharingan is borrowed ! and if you say he was born with it. then i say that the whole uchiha clan borrowed the sharingan from so6p ..... and if you don't accept that then i say sasuke's EMS are borrowed and without it . he would be blind by now . even konuohamru would beat him haha

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Who cares if Sasuke or Naruto has borrowed power or not?Enough with the pissing contest.

 

[Conspirator.]

The "borrowed power" argument is a dumb arugment used by naruto and sasuke fanboys.......if you have read the manga recently, EVERY ninjas power is "borrowed"from the god tree. Plus, they are ninjas-power is power, no matter how you get it.....

 

[Child Of The Great Empire]

Oh man... this thread again

 

[TonyDawn1379]

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Who cares if Sasuke or Naruto has borrowed power or not?Enough with the pissing contest.

i don't care also . just making a point for hell sake !

 

[-ahhimane-]

I agree with you.
Naruto's powers mostly the Kyuubi isn't borrowed. It was forced.
Plus someone said that Bijuudamas are borrowed power. Lol Didn't Naruto beat kurama and gained it's chakra? He now got the right to use it's power.

 

[-immortal-]

Haters are so stupid nowadays. How about sennin mode? Rasenshuriken? You can't even troll properly. How futile =D

Toads you know what the fck a Toad is?