Why do people like Minato and Itachi so much?

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Every person has their own likes and dislikes. I'm pretty sure that most people have a character that they like and a character that they don't like. People like Itachi because they like Itachi. People like Minato because they like Minato. It's like asking someone why they like the color red? They like the color red because they like the color red. Why does there have to be question for personal taste in certain characters? It's nonsensical.

I cringe every time I read a post made by you.
 

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Minato is cool, on the other hand, itachi is awful and mass murderer. I never understand how people like him
or think he's a hero. o_O
I would like to know how would they feel if someone kills their entire family!

They think Itachi is a hero because Kishimoto has stated as such and multiple characters have praised him as one in the manga. You're looking at it in black and white. He didn't really have a choice and his clan would have been annihilated by Konoha's military force which is essentially every shinobi. He saved Konoha from war and had his clan maintain their honor by making them look like victims as well as made their deaths painless. He hated himself for it, even though he didn't have any better options and his clan dying was inevitable. He's certainly a hero given the context of this story.

If you look at it in black and white, Minato is worse because he has the 2nd highest kill count in the series, right behind Madara. He killed thousands during the 3rd shinobi war, but didn't really care because they weren't a part of Konoha. He's more of a mass murderer than Itachi is.
 

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Correction: "People like" Minato; "EVERYONE" likes Itachi though.

People used to like Minato because he looked cool, was said to be the fastest ninja in history, and all of that other jazz. Nowadays, Minato has lost a lot of fans because we found out:
1. Not only did he steal FTG...but he didn't even improve on it
2. Tobirama's actually faster than him with FTG and better with it
3. He's gotten fodderized too many times by Madara

tobirama faster than minato????? prove it???
 

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People liked Minato more during the Pain arc. Then the war arc came and his fans started leaving him for other characters like Tobirama.

Is this a joke? o_O. He was the most popular Hokage, since part 1.. hell his "badassery" even outshone Hiruzen.

He actually got more fans than before.

And people didn't leave him for other characters.. its just people didn't know sh*t about the first 2 Hokages..
 

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Correction: "People like" Minato; "EVERYONE" likes Itachi though.

People used to like Minato because he looked cool, was said to be the fastest ninja in history, and all of that other jazz. Nowadays, Minato has lost a lot of fans because we found out:
1. Not only did he steal FTG...but he didn't even improve on it
2. Tobirama's actually faster than him with FTG and better with it
3. He's gotten fodderized too many times by Madara

Correction:

1) Minato did not steal FTG. He created his own tech. Tobirama himself accepted it as better than the original.
2) Minato is actually faster than Tobirama with it. Look who teleported into and from a rushing 8 gate Gai.
3) He did his best and is the only hokage to still stand and be useful. He didn't kick ass, but he did the most out of all hokage in this war. The war would have been over by now if Minato had not done what he has.
4) You're a freaking hater. Itachi ruined Sasuke's life for no reason and led him down a path of murder, hatred and betrayal just to fulfill his selfish wish of repenting by dying in the hands of an Uchiha. But he's perfect. Sure.
 

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Correction:

1) Minato did not steal FTG. He created his own tech. Tobirama himself accepted it as better than the original.
2) Minato is actually faster than Tobirama with it. Look who teleported into and from a rushing 8 gate Gai.
3) He did his best and is the only hokage to still stand and be useful. He didn't kick ass, but he did the most out of all hokage in this war. The war would have been over by now if Minato had not done what he has.
4) You're a freaking hater. Itachi ruined Sasuke's life for no reason and led him down a path of murder, hatred and betrayal just to fulfill his selfish wish of repenting by dying in the hands of an Uchiha. But he's perfect. Sure.
1. He still stole it...
2. Minato's not faster. Tobirama simply was never put into that situation.
3. Firstly, Hiruzen's still somewhere doing who knows what, so Minato's not the only Hokage left. Also, when you get fodderized and forced to sit on the sidelines for a bit, you'll obviously be there later in the fight when the stronger folks get wasted.
4. What does Itachi have to do with this? Really?
 

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Is this a joke? o_O. He was the most popular Hokage, since part 1.. hell his "badassery" even outshone Hiruzen.

He actually got more fans than before.

And people didn't leave him for other characters.. its just people didn't know sh*t about the first 2 Hokages..

I don't really even think he lost a lot of fans I just think the fanbase got way way more quiet. :heh:
 

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Is this a joke? o_O. He was the most popular Hokage, since part 1.. hell his "badassery" even outshone Hiruzen.

He actually got more fans than before.

And people didn't leave him for other characters.. its just people didn't know sh*t about the first 2 Hokages..

No. I know that he was the most popular hokage for a long time, and still is. He was shown in the prologue, even introduced before the main character Naruto himself. He's had fans since the beginning and always ranked well in polls. Then, he received even more fans during the Pain arc and his fanbase reached it's peak.

He still has a huge fanbase, not denying that. In fact, he has the largest fanbase out of the hokages. But I still know some people that left him, or just don't have him as their favorite character because Tobirama was introduced and they think he's better.
 

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Correction:
You're a freaking hater. Itachi ruined Sasuke's life for no reason and led him down a path of murder, hatred and betrayal just to fulfill his selfish wish of repenting by dying in the hands of an Uchiha. But he's perfect. Sure.

Your post is pretty ignorant. It was done for a reason. If Itachi hadn't done what he did, Sasuke would have died in war along w/ the rest of his clan that was going out either way. Sasuke's life would have sucked either way. Sasuke is know on par w/ Naruto's strength due to Itachi. Sasuke is now alive and not dead, due to Itachi. Sasuke didn't destroy Konoha and it's people earlier due to Itachi. Sasuke had a good childhood w/ Team 7 initially due to Itachi. Sasuke is now helping the alliance right now which caused them to win against Obito, due to Itachi. Itachi did pretty well.

Both Minato and Itachi are good and heroes. Neither are perfect. Just chill out.
 

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Itachi: One of the most gifted and well rounded shinobi in the entire manga. Represents the "hero" theme that is prevalent in today's society well. Think about guys like LeBron James or John Cena. People love those who have the tools to be considered the best at what they do but the humbleness that keeps them from feeling better than anyone else. In other words it's best to be strong and say you're not. Itachi's background story is one of sacrifice, secrecy, complexity and love. The role of the tormented hero who had to shoulder a major burden for the better of those around him is played very well by him. He was ridiculed, hated, and shamed by the very people who he himself ultimately died to protect. In a way his character carries similar undertones to the background of Jesus Christ. Itachi is good to those who like him because they like him, not because he tells them.

Minato: Another well rounded character with the "hero" factor. While he may not have the versatility of an Itachi, he is still very equip in many areas. What's also notable is he is one of the strongest characters in the series to belong to a non-hyped clan, a true testament to his strength and skill. In other words Minato is gifted despite being gifted. His background story is also one of sacrifice and trial. It doesn't contain the element of hatred that Itachi's does, however, many of Minato's fans like him for the admiration and respect he has garnered from everyone that knew of him. As strong and ominous as he was originally portrayed to be, the real Minato is a simple loving father and husband with a warm personality. He sacrificed his life for the village, and even gave his son to protect the villagers. While many do not approve of what he did with Naruto, others acknowledge that Minato did indeed love his son very much and in the end saved his son's life, His sacrifice of making his son the jinchuriki of his village is similar to that of how God gave his son to the world to be their savior and symbol of salvation
 

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Because they are both shitty characters genius......:rolleyes:
 

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Niqqa you think Nagato can beat a BSM Naruto. I repeat, your logic is idiotic.

I'm not a naruto hater or anything, but I don't get how Naruto can beat nagato when almost everything in his arsenal can be absorbed by Preta. Not to mention, nagato was about to wreck KCM Naruto and Bee. Could someone enlighten me and explain how Naruto wins?

I was asking how BSM Naruto would beat Nagato. It was an honest question, not a statement saying Nagato was superior. You, on the other hand claimed Sasuke was the best raiton user in the manga. When some guy tried explaining to you how both Darui and 3rd Raikage are superior, you cussed them out and called them an "ignorant illogical moron".
 

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I was asking how BSM Naruto would beat Nagato. It was an honest question, not a statement saying Nagato was superior. You, on the other hand claimed Sasuke was the best raiton user in the manga. When some guy tried explaining to you how both Darui and 3rd Raikage are superior, you cussed them out and called them an "ignorant illogical moron".
My statement was somewhat acceptable and possible. He is undoubtedly one of the best Raiton users in the manga, but my statement doesn't compare to your flawed statement. Problem?
 

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My statement was somewhat acceptable and possible. He is undoubtedly one of the best Raiton users in the manga, but my statement doesn't compare to your flawed statement. Problem?

I literally just said in my last post that I was asking a question, not making a statement. This proves you are incapable of reading. Log off.
 

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I literally just said in my last post that I was asking a question, not making a statement. This proves you are incapable of reading. Log off.
A question that you should already know the answer to if you bother to read the manga. Boy, what a dunce you are.
 

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A question that you should already know the answer to if you bother to read the manga. Boy, what a dunce you are.

I'd rather be a dunce than get butthurt and ragequit a debate. Seriously, you cuss out anyone who disagrees with you.

I quit. I'm tired of explaining this shit to you about Samehada not absorbing Amaterasu. I will just make another thread and a poll and see what the majority of the NB say. If the majority overpower my words then fine. It's settled. Otherwise you're full of shit and denying manga facts.
 

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I'd rather be a dunce than get butthurt and ragequit a debate. Seriously, you cuss out anyone who disagrees with you.
@bold: I rest my case. You really are an idiot.

Also, that debate was getting irritating because you fail to look at others views and only listen to yourself. You don't even bother to concede on certain points and just dismiss everything that someone throws at you. Who would want to debate with someone like that? And the fact that you brought it up must mean that you are feeling a little salty. You mad?
 
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