[VS] Sasuke VS Pre Rinnegan Obito

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There are scans showing that susanoo is just malleable chakra on the inside, that's why sasuke seems like he's "floating" when encased in it.

That's also why the k11 were able to stay afloat inside the PS tails.

Obito can't warp into solid objects, but the chakra inside susanoo isn't solid so it's still a possibility, it's like naruto's BM.

& Without legs susanoo has space inside.

The scans only show that Sasuke can move inside Susano'o , but that's no proof it isn't solid inside as Enton didn't burn Sasuke either but that doesn't mean that it can't burn .

Wrong , they were able to be there because Naruto and Sasuke allowed it .

Nothing proves that it isn't solid on the inside .
 
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The scans only show that Sasuke can move inside Susano'o , but that's no proof it isn't solid inside as Enton didn't burn Sasuke either but that doesn't mean that it can't burn .

That doesn't make sense, if it's solid then Naruto's avatar wouldn't be able to move. & If it's solid then it wouldn't splash if people entered it. [ ]

Wrong , they were able to be there because Naruto and Sasuke allowed it .

Doesn't matter, the k11 splashed into the tails. Why would sasuke need to cover his PS in scales if the whole chakra shroud was solid? The tails weren't covered in metal plates & guess what they opened up like a liquid would. If anything the outer plates of sasuke's susanoo are solid.

Nothing proves that it isn't solid on the inside .

You know what it doesn't even matter because when I look back I see I was wrong, susanoo always makes room for whoever's inside, even a small amount of space is enough, it doesn't have to be roomy but there's obviously room for sasuke to wave around his arms while inside.
 

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Sasuke stomps. Amaterasu, gg - Obito barely survived a flame of Amaterasu, imagine Sasuke using Amaterasu all over him and putting him in an Amaterasu cage. Obito wouldn't have time to warp all those flames.
 

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Obito can't take a speedblitz from Sasuke.

Sasuke's too fast for his Kamui phasing.

Amaterasu automatically makes him counter with Izanagi.

He's weak.

The fvck is this :|

Kamui already sh*t on Sasuke's speed.

The fight against deidara, Sasuke couldn't even touch him.

Obito absorbs Amatersu

Obito's Katon would overwhelm all of Sasuke's fire style.

Mokuton/Gedo Mazou would eat Sasuke alive.
 

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That doesn't make sense, if it's solid then Naruto's avatar wouldn't be able to move. & If it's solid then it wouldn't splash if people entered it. [ ]



Doesn't matter, the k11 splashed into the tails. Why would sasuke need to cover his PS in scales if the whole chakra shroud was solid? The tails weren't covered in metal plates & guess what they opened up like a liquid would. If anything the outer plates of sasuke's susanoo are solid.



You know what it doesn't even matter because when I look back I see I was wrong, susanoo always makes room for whoever's inside, even a small amount of space is enough, it doesn't have to be roomy but there's obviously room for sasuke to wave around his arms while inside.

Why wouldn't it be able to move ?? It only "splashed" because Sasuke and Naruto let them in .

Why doesn't it matter ?? They only "splashed" because Sasuke and Naruto let them in , or do you believe that they broke through Susano'o and the Avatar ?? You're making a lot of baseless assumptions here .

Sasuke can make as much room inside Susano'o as he wants , which means he can make just enough room for him to fit in Susano'o .
 

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Why wouldn't it be able to move ?? It only "splashed" because Sasuke and Naruto let them in .

Try bending something that's solid. It splashed because that's what happens when someone enters it, even if naruto & sasuke allowed them to enter, it still shows us that the susanoo itself is made up of chakra that moves away like a liquid, it has those properties instead of a solid property so why should we assume that it's the latter?

Why doesn't it matter ?? They only "splashed" because Sasuke and Naruto let them in , or do you believe that they broke through Susano'o and the Avatar ?? You're making a lot of baseless assumptions here .

When did I say that? & show me where the heck I made a baseless claim. I gave proof supporting why I believe susanoo isn't solid on the inside & I never once said that the K11 broke free, it doesn't matter if naruto or sasuke let them in or not. Manga showed us that the chakra is of a "liquidy" property so tell me why I should assume that it's anything else?

Sasuke can make as much room inside Susano'o as he wants , which means he can make just enough room for him to fit in Susano'o .

Show me the scan where sasuke can adjust the room he has within susanoo. For all we know it's a fixed area that he can't control unless he focuses on it. Now who's making baseless claims?
 

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Try bending something that's solid. It splashed because that's what happens when someone enters it, even if naruto & sasuke allowed them to enter, it still shows us that the susanoo itself is made up of chakra that moves away like a liquid, it has those properties instead of a solid property so why should we assume that it's the latter?



When did I say that? & show me where the heck I made a baseless claim. I gave proof supporting why I believe susanoo isn't solid on the inside & I never once said that the K11 broke free, it doesn't matter if naruto or sasuke let them in or not. Manga showed us that the chakra is of a "liquidy" property so tell me why I should assume that it's anything else?



Show me the scan where sasuke can adjust the room he has within susanoo. For all we know it's a fixed area that he can't control unless he focuses on it. Now who's making baseless claims?

Is that why it blocked Kirin ?? Is that why it blocked Bijuu Dama ?? Is that why it tanked a combined attack of Gaara , Temari , Darui ,etc. ?? Because it's not solid ?? Lol

It does matter that Naruto and Sasuke let them in , the only other possiblity that they could get in there w/o then both allowing it is if they broke Susano'o and the Avatar , that scan only shows that both Naruto and Sasuke can open the room that they want for them to get in .

Susano'o blocked attacks that are powerful enough to show us that Susano'o is solid , some of those attacks are Kirin , Bijuu Dama , etc. if it was liquid when the K11 got in there , then that just proves my point that Sasuke can open as much room inside his Susano'o as he wants .
 

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Pre-rinnegan Obito is going to lose to MS Sasuke?

The same Obito that beat Mizukage perfect jinchuuriki...?

The same Obito that controlled the whole mist village and destroyed the leaf village, while controlling Akatsuki?
 

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Obito wins. People don't understand how fast obito can warp. Sasuke is not reacting to instant. As said by someone before sasuke is no sensor, therefore the moment obito reappears from Kamui land sasuke won't notice him. The moment obito grabs sasuke he gets teleported.
 

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Does Obito have Izanagi and the Chains? If Obito has Izanagi he can easily take an Amaterasu if he runs out of time for Kamui.
 

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You need a special skill-set to counter the kamui. Sasuke doesn't have it.
 

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Is that why it blocked Kirin ?? Is that why it blocked Bijuu Dama ?? Is that why it tanked a combined attack of Gaara , Temari , Darui ,etc. ?? Because it's not solid ?? Lol

Lol Maybe because those are the outside of susanoo? I never said the outside isn't solid, but humans wear armor too, we still need joints in order to move our body parts.

The skeleton of susanoo is solid, nothing suggests that the chakra inside & surrounding the skeleton is solid.

In fact here's a question for you, why would susanoo even need a skeleton? Why does such a construct even need joints in order to move? If the chakra was constantly solid then why can't it move without the need for a skeleton or even muscle tissue? [ ]

Everything that I see regarding susanoo leads me to believe that it isn't solid on the interior but rather it's actually softer chakra, hence why a final form of susanoo is clad in armor.

It does matter that Naruto and Sasuke let them in , the only other possiblity that they could get in there w/o then both allowing it is if they broke Susano'o and the Avatar , that scan only shows that both Naruto and Sasuke can open the room that they want for them to get in .

The scan shows us what happens when susanoo gets separated, another example of what susanoo is like on the when it gets ripped is when danzo blew the back off sasuke's. [ ] The chakra peels back, exposing the bones, the chakra itself gets torn in a similar fashion to how the k11 entered susanoo. This proves that when susanoo separates it stops becoming solid, the flaps are tears that would occur on the inside if obito were to warp inside. The chakra is not solid as it rips apart, it isn't solid anywhere except for the outer layer & the bones.

Susano'o blocked attacks that are powerful enough to show us that Susano'o is solid

From the outside, if one of those attacks were to go off inside susanoo then it would rip apart similar to how danzo ripped the back of sasuke's.

, some of those attacks are Kirin , Bijuu Dama , etc. if it was liquid when the K11 got in there , then that just proves my point that Sasuke can open as much room inside his Susano'o as he wants .

Yet he didn't do it when danzo ripped sasuke's back? He had to resort to attacking baku & he couldn't just repair the hole instantly. What this means is that if sasuke designates enough space for himself then he will not have enough time to change it before obito can warp inside.

This is all assuming sasuke even uses his legged susanoo right away, because without legs obito can simply phase from underground.
 

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Obits comfortably wins this
Sasukes has no counters to kamui at all
He lacks the near FTG level speed or jutsus to effectively prevent himself from getting warped
None of sasukes attacks are even working against obito which already takes away sasukes chances of victory
 

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The fvck is this :|

Kamui already sh*t on Sasuke's speed.

The fight against deidara, Sasuke couldn't even touch him.

Obito absorbs Amatersu

Obito's Katon would overwhelm all of Sasuke's fire style.

Mokuton/Gedo Mazou would eat Sasuke alive.

Pre-rinnegan Obito is going to lose to MS Sasuke?

The same Obito that beat Mizukage perfect jinchuuriki...?

The same Obito that controlled the whole mist village and destroyed the leaf village, while controlling Akatsuki?


Any perfect jin is one shotted with amaterasu bar - naruto that isnt impressive hows does obito absorb amaterasu?

obito mokuton & katon plus gedo mazo is easily shitted on by enton/amaterasu only reason he could even win is because of kamui


also obito kamui in susanoo tsk then using the K11 as an example drapshin fail again they let them in look at walts thread about susanoo kakashi & gai stood on kurama avatar why didnt the float in clearly its the user choice to do that
 

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Any perfect jin is one shotted with amaterasu bar - naruto that isnt impressive hows does obito absorb amaterasu?

obito mokuton & katon plus gedo mazo is easily shitted on by enton/amaterasu only reason he could even win is because of kamui


also obito kamui in susanoo tsk then using the K11 as an example drapshin fail again they let them in look at walts thread about susanoo kakashi & gai stood on kurama avatar why didnt the float in clearly its the user choice to do that[/U]

Obito absorbed Madara's Sennin chakra.

He can do the same to Amatersu, in fact he most likely did that to Itachi's Amatersu seal on Sasuke.

When Obito syncs with Gedo mazou (like old Madara did), Sasuke stands no chance whatsoever.

Genjustu would spell instant death...

His strength increases...

His mokuton would easily restrain MS Sasuke's Susanoo.

Especially when he has Doton mole technique to stop his mobility in Susanoo, and his mokuton can travel from the ground up.
 
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Lol Maybe because those are the outside of susanoo? I never said the outside isn't solid, but humans wear armor too, we still need joints in order to move our body parts.

The skeleton of susanoo is solid, nothing suggests that the chakra inside & surrounding the skeleton is solid.

In fact here's a question for you, why would susanoo even need a skeleton? Why does such a construct even need joints in order to move? If the chakra was constantly solid then why can't it move without the need for a skeleton or even muscle tissue? [ ]

Everything that I see regarding susanoo leads me to believe that it isn't solid on the interior but rather it's actually softer chakra, hence why a final form of susanoo is clad in armor.



The scan shows us what happens when susanoo gets separated, another example of what susanoo is like on the when it gets ripped is when danzo blew the back off sasuke's. [ ] The chakra peels back, exposing the bones, the chakra itself gets torn in a similar fashion to how the k11 entered susanoo. This proves that when susanoo separates it stops becoming solid, the flaps are tears that would occur on the inside if obito were to warp inside. The chakra is not solid as it rips apart, it isn't solid anywhere except for the outer layer & the bones.



From the outside, if one of those attacks were to go off inside susanoo then it would rip apart similar to how danzo ripped the back of sasuke's.



Yet he didn't do it when danzo ripped sasuke's back? He had to resort to attacking baku & he couldn't just repair the hole instantly. What this means is that if sasuke designates enough space for himself then he will not have enough time to change it before obito can warp inside.

This is all assuming sasuke even uses his legged susanoo right away, because without legs obito can simply phase from underground.

Still , K11 "splashed" in Susano'o from outside , not inside , so that makes your k11 scan invalid as that would mean that the outside isn't solid either . You mean the aura from Susano'o ?? if so then Ay was able to get through Sasuke's , as you can see Ay attacked him between Susano'o's ribs , the same happens to Madara but this time Madara's aura blocks it , i think that's enough proof that it's solid . How the hell am I supposed to know why it has a skeleton ?? as for the armor , it's simply to make it more resistant .

What ?? Danzo's Fuuton destroyed Susano'o , that's it , are you suggesting that if Obito warps inside Susano'o then it would be destroyed like Danzo's fuuton destroyed it ?? lmao , let me ask you something now , what do you think would happen if Obito warped inside a wall ?? would it be destroyed ?? Lmfao

That only means that Danzo destroyed it , if he can make room for whoever he wants it doesn't mean that he can regenerate Susano'o , but if he allowed k11 to get inside Susano'o then it does confirm that he can let whoever he wants inside , and if he can let anyone he wants to inside then that means he can make as much room as he wants inside Susano'o

but Obito would have to remain intangible to be inside Susano'o , and he can't warp anyone while intangible , and what exactly is stopping him from using legged Susano'o right off the bat ??
 

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Obito > Any form of Sasuke.
 
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