SM naruto VS EMS sasuke

[Sennin of Logic]

I suggest that you find the viz scan of Obito's statement to support your claims. Then people will be force to believe Amaterasu cannot be use with Sussanoo at the same time, otherwise it will be shut down.

If not, then the argument clearly goes to one explaining: due to the strain of using 2 MS moves, will be too much for a MS user, thus why it was removed.

Sigh, found a scan that actually proves the Sasuke fan case.

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Though I already requested a viz of Obito's statement and am curious to hear what it said.

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

Sigh. Nevermind. I reread some chapters and have found a scan that demonstrates a susanoo being maintained while amaterasu was being used. As stupid and illogical as it is, it's a manga fact. My next question is. WHY IN THE HECK DOESN'T HE FREAKING USE IT?!!!

When we first saw it, Itachi was blind while using it. Madara used it without Sharingan active once, then used without having eyes. It seems possible that the ability is rooted in the eye but they're not required after awakening, or once a certain level has been achieved with the Kaleidoscope, it's unnecessary. It's rather odd though, I'll say that much.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

When we first saw it, Itachi was blind while using it. Madara used it without Sharingan active once, then used without having eyes. It seems possible that the ability is rooted in the eye but they're not required after awakening, or once a certain level has been achieved with the Kaleidoscope, it's unnecessary. It's rather odd though, I'll say that much.

Well actually, I was referring why does he use enton arrows considering amaterasu's better? It makes 0 sense. Well at least I'm not being bombarded with jeering though I'm expecting that I will get jeered by Adeshina.

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

Well actually, I was referring why does he use enton arrows considering amaterasu's better? It makes 0 sense. Well at least I'm not being bombarded with jeering though I'm expecting that I will get jeered by Shelke and Adeshina.

Finesse mostly. He can adjust shape and mass of the flames at will with Enton, as well as pierce defenses. Essentially, it allows the flames to burn armored opponents more easily. Example, Sasuke sacrificed his precognition and hit size against Raikage in order to hit the cut on his chest with Amaterasu to work around his tough exterior and missed due to his speed. When Enton came in to play, that was unnecessary, as he'd be able to both cut through his armor and burn simultaneously.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Finesse mostly. He can adjust shape and mass of the flames at will with Enton, as well as pierce defenses. Essentially, it allows the flames to burn armored opponents more easily. Example, Sasuke sacrificed his precognition and hit size against Raikage in order to hit the cut on his chest with Amaterasu to work around his tough exterior and missed due to his speed. When Enton came in to play, that was unnecessary, as he'd be able to both cut through his armor and burn simultaneously.

But the arrow never showed any penetrating power considering black rods blocked it. To give you an example, SM Naruto can easily crush black rods with no effort.

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

But the arrow never showed any penetrating power considering black rods blocked it. To give you an example, SM Naruto can easily crush black rods with no effort.

They suppressed the chakra of the arrow. It didn't have an opportunity to penetrate. It's shown plenty of penetrating power, it penetrated the Juubi's shell.

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[Prince Charles]

Whether he uses enton manipulation or amaterasu doesnt really matter at the end of the day it's his choice.

 

[KidGamer65]

Please calm down and don't say, "that's ludicrous" to my points please. I put effort into my points, and there are some of your points I could totally make fun of, but I'm not going to do that. Clones only take one handsign. Sasuke's not blitzing Naruto before anything can be done. Especially not SM Naruto.

Stop saying calm down when there is nothing to calm down from. Nor did I ever make fun of this point. Stop being so sensitive. All I said is that its flawed, nothing more nothing less.

Irrelevant and irrelevant. I never said that Sasuke would blitz Naruto.

Sage mode Naruto is leagues faster than Sasuke, so naturally, it doesn't matter if Sasuke tries to move away or not. Sage Naruto has repeatedly been shown to be faster than summons. I don't think Aoda is an exception. Especially since Naruto blitzed asura path with chakra rockets and the 3rd raikage.

-Naruto didn't blitz the 3rd Raikage. He evaded his attack at the last second and hit him with Rasengan.

-Again, never said he'd evade or even try to blitz Naruto. So again, irrelevant.

You yourself are subjecting yourself to the faulty logic that you claim I'm doing. You're assuming that the Sage mode Naruto clones are just going to take Sasuke's enton attacks. A simple sword slash is not taking out SM clones.

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This is a SM clone. This is what you're saying enton sword will hit with one swipe. Naruto practically waited for a lightning spear from a very fast opponent to be virtually touching him before dodging it. Enton sword is not hitting a SM clone. As for black yasaka magatama, their only feat is a bunch of Zetsus. Each SM Naruto clone has obscenely
faster movement and reaction time.

Sasuke can predict where and when the Sage Mode Clones will move (As he can predict Juubito's flight speed) and his Enton Blade will cover a much much larger AoE than Nukite, so its harder to dodge. Especially since Susanoo strikes are faster than a human's strikes.

-A weaker Susanoo cut all these so fast that they hit the ground at the same exact time. [

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-Orochimaru couldn't even finish his sentence before Susanoo stabbed him. [

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-Legged V3 tagged Juubito. (Well, would have if he hadn't blocked, but he was forced to do so)

They all die.

Lol, combined with Sasuke's pre cog, Enton Magatama aren't going to miss their targets.

Amaterasu is the most likely, but, again, I don't think he can do it simultaneously with susanoo.

Evidence says he can.

Being completely obliterated is not a tanking feat. This is all it takes to make a hole in a V3 susanoo.

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Yes it is. The fact it was able to cushion him from that only goes to show that vastly inferior attacks won't be able to do anything serious to it.

And yes, hollowing out a mountain is special. Have any idea how durable a mountain is? That makes it's attacks comparable to Kirin(not as strong, but comparable). If making a hole in a mountain isn't impressive, then neither is destroying one. A single one would damage even a V4 susnaoo. The barrage would destroy it. You're severely underestimating ransengans.

Making a hole in a Mountain doesn't even begin to compare to the scale of completely obliterating one. Not at all. What's better? Making a hole in a tree or obliterating the tree. "hollow out a mountain" is vague anyway. Does it refer to a small Mountain or a large Mountain? How much of the Mountain has to be carved out to consider it carved out? Here is a post made by someone on NF; perfectly explaining what I think of Chou Oodama Rasengan. [

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FRS did more damage to Kurama than that Rasengan Barrage, and FRS isn't on Kirin's level.

It's not just adding legs. It's increasing its size by a huge degree. You made a good case with the juubito examples, but what about the god tree?

Why equip Enton only to have to change to a standard Susanoo blade? There's no point.

Reread my strategy. The clones are out of Sasuke's line of sight. Therefore, prediction is useless. The clones can make an opening. I think that making a large susanoo takes too much concentration or chakra to diverge his EMS's power for enton simultaneously.

Your post assumes that Sasuke will LET the clones spread out. So yeah, when you can tell me how they get past the mentioned, then you can implement your strategy and then it will be valid.

Well that's just an assumption of yours.

Funny thing is, the manga never said that the chakra strain on chakra was lessened, only that the shairngan becomes more powerful and doesn't lead to blindness. In no where does it state that the techniques take up less chakra.

The manga clearly shows that. Sasuke was out of chakra against Mei after using a V2 and a Ribcage along with Enton and Amaterasu. Now he's spamming Susanoo and Enton like nothing. The manga doesn't have to say anything for common sense to be applied.

Not to mention Susanoo vanishes for MS Sasuke when Amaterasu is used because of strain, not chakra, so this point is irrelevant anyway.

Amaterasu=focusing chakra in one eye and closing the other. Susanoo=requiring both eyes. Enton=using both eyes. Tell me how amaterasu is compatible with susanoo.

Tell me how this means anything at all.

 

[kyuubiSanin]

does naruto get to use kurama?

 

[slimreaper]

Naruto x man is under the impression that sasuke still has Just MS. He nolonger shows pain or fatigue using basic MS techs.


not only that he doesn't take into consideration baku's suction power

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it sucked multiple trees from a distance. that is greater than any power SM naruto can produce.

as for his counter of the third raikage... that helps none against sasuke. Sasuke will see his move and adjust before he makes it

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as for the third's "speed"

the rubber guy reacted to it

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Sm naruto showed no speed in his dodging, just timing.

as for "blitzing asura path"

speed is the calculation of the time it takes to cover a distance. Considering we don't know when naruto left his starting point, we can't calculate speed. we know he covered the distance but not how long it took so that feat is useless.

this is a speed feat

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we see he hadn't even moved and sasuke had already covered that distance and cut him down. Come with a feat like that

yasake magatama ends him

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sasuke beats him in close quarters too

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his EMS added agility, combined with the reach of his enton sword

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or chidori spear

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or the length of his enton hand

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being manipulated

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shits on frog kata


sasuke could just rain hell from above if he wanted

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naruto gets absolutely manhandled

 

[RustledJimmies]

Please calm down and don't say, "that's ludicrous" to my points please. I put effort into my points, and there are some of your points I could totally make fun of, but I'm not going to do that.

Damn it KG , you shouldn't hurt people's feelings . but seriously , I laughed my ass off when I read this .

 

[Unorthodox]

This thread still going with the topic is as obvious as day