How strong was Rikudo before he becames Jubi Jin. ?

[bashkim]

As title said. What do you guys think?

 

[HENI]

I'd say double the power of Rinnegan Madara and Hashirama SM combined

 

[Seventh Sama]

There's two possible answers. A: He had the power of both madara and hashi in one body(basically pre rikudo madara but the sage had both rinnegans). or B: He used the power of his mom to defeat the juubi, This would parallel naruto's fight with the kyuubi since kushina helped naruto win. I prefer B, seems more unique.

 

[China IL]

No one knows either -_-

 

[Bronze]

He was powerful as SM Madara.

 

[Dantee]

Stronger than SM Madara was. He is the originator of the Senju/Uchiha bloodline meaning he should significantly more powerful.

 

[KingHashirama]

Whats with the idiotic response of SM Hashirama + Rinnegan madara? rofl.

- Rikudou didn't have Mokuton

- Nor did he happen to have SM (in fact Rinnegan and SM have shown to be the opposite of each other..)

- Boy had the rinnegan and huge chakras

Hmm to assess the strength of pre-jin rikudou, we must look at his feat and how many people can accomplish that feat.

His biggest feat is to SEAL the juubi inside him. Now the people who besides are capable of doing this were:

- Madara
-Obito
-Hashirama

Clearly the fact that he was hailed as the G.O.S AFTER he sealed the juubi inside himself should probably tell us he was probably at Obito or Rinnegan Madara's level (take out the mokuton, and maybe add chakra reserves of Hashirama.)


And the whole crap about "originator".. yea just like Asuma was strong as Hiruzen right?

Genetics don't work that way in Naruto. It is basically a random selection.

 

[Dantee]

Whats with the idiotic response of SM Hashirama + Rinnegan madara? rofl.

- Rikudou didn't have Mokuton

- Nor did he happen to have SM (in fact Rinnegan and SM have shown to be the opposite of each other..)

- Boy had the rinnegan and huge chakras

Hmm to assess the strength of pre-jin rikudou, we must look at his feat and how many people can accomplish that feat.

His biggest feat is to SEAL the juubi inside him. Now the people who besides are capable of doing this were:

- Madara
-Obito
-Hashirama

Clearly the fact that he was hailed as the G.O.S AFTER he sealed the juubi inside himself should probably tell us he was probably at Obito or Rinnegan Madara's level (take out the mokuton, and maybe add chakra reserves of Hashirama.)

When the sage died he split his ocular powers and physical powers into his two sons. That life force Hashirama has is from the younger son which originated from the Sage. It's very likely he had mokoton or something more powerful. Lol @ the sage not having sage mode.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Whats with the idiotic response of SM Hashirama + Rinnegan madara? rofl.

- Rikudou didn't have Mokuton

- Nor did he happen to have SM (in fact Rinnegan and SM have shown to be the opposite of each other..)

- Boy had the rinnegan and huge chakras

Hmm to assess the strength of pre-jin rikudou, we must look at his feat and how many people can accomplish that feat.

His biggest feat is to SEAL the juubi inside him. Now the people who besides are capable of doing this were:

- Madara
-Obito
-Hashirama

Clearly the fact that he was hailed as the G.O.S AFTER he sealed the juubi inside himself should probably tell us he was probably at Obito or Rinnegan Madara's level (take out the mokuton, and maybe add chakra reserves of Hashirama.)


And the whole crap about "originator".. yea just like Asuma was strong as Hiruzen right?

Genetics don't work that way in Naruto. It is basically a random selection.

Well unlike those people you listed, it was said that he battled the juubi. so he didn't just seal up the darn thing and called it a day... he needed some massive firepower to take it on or at least weaken it to a point of sealing is possible...

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

Stronger than sm sage Mode Rinnegan Madara Cause I'm sure his sons were stronger than Hashi and Madara.

 

[KingHashirama]

Well unlike those people you listed, it was said that he battled the juubi. so he didn't just seal up the darn thing and called it a day... he needed some massive firepower to take it on or at least weaken it to a point of sealing is possible...

Battle is simply a confrontation. I'm pretty sure the juubi wasn't simply going to give Obito/Madara the control over it... if you truly believe that then go ahead.. But realistically Obito would have had to restrain the juubi and seal it.

And clearly sealing the juubi isn't a big deal.

When the sage died he split his ocular powers and physical powers into his two sons. That life force Hashirama has is from the younger son which originated from the Sage. It's very likely he had mokoton or something more powerful. Lol @ the sage not having sage mode.

Hashirama's life force is special to him. It is not the same as Rikudou or the younger son. Kaguya is the source of all that power. It is from Kaguya that the sage inherited his abilities. However, with genetic selection he did not have Mokuton, but had the rinnegan. Hence why everytime we see him he is symbolized with the rinnegan.

And yea you need SM to become a Sage right? Just like Nagato the second SAGE of the 6 paths had sage mode according to you right?

 

[Uchiha Rafael]

Probably a perfect Sage Mode User

 

[Seventh Sama]

Battle is simply a confrontation. I'm pretty sure the juubi wasn't simply going to give Obito/Madara the control over it... if you truly believe that then go ahead.. But realistically Obito would have had to restrain the juubi and seal it.

And clearly sealing the juubi isn't a big deal.

Dude, Madara and obito just sealed it up no diff. They didn't fight it or anything. Sure, it tried to possessed obito but he tamed it with mid diff. Idk why people consider sealing as a form of defeat... :|

 

[Tarinth]

Whether you believe that Rikudou had SM or not, Rikudou was almost denifitely stronger than a SM Double Rinnengan Madara.
So he was very powerful, and his best feats are not only sealing Juubi, but also beating down a FULL powered Juubi before sealing it.
Also, Post Jinchuruki form, he sealed the Gedo Statue into the moon.
Remember Obito after he got Juubi out of him? Yeah, he was going to die.
Rikudou on the other hand made the moon and threw it into outer space while he was old and had the Juubi out of him.
So yeah, I imagine him as double the power of SM Madara, with like double the chakra as Hashirama.

 

[KingHashirama]

Dude, Madara and obito just sealed it up no diff. They didn't fight it or anything. Sure, it tried to possessed obito but he tamed it with mid diff. Idk why people consider sealing as a form of defeat... :|

- Hashirama first had it restrained. Obito simply took advantage (oh this was an injured obito also)..

- Did you not see it go wild, the moment it came on the field?

As i said becoming the Jinchuriki of the juubi is not something a feat only rikudou can accomplish.

 

[EternalFlame]

Sage faced complete Juubi.

 

[Seventh Sama]

- Hashirama first had it restrained. Obito simply took advantage (oh this was an injured obito also)..

- Did you not see it go wild, the moment it came on the field?

As i said becoming the Jinchuriki of the juubi is not something a feat only rikudou can accomplish.

First off all that was an incomplete juubi and second the entire SA was fighting it... When someone that can battle and defeat a full powered juubi by themself. Then I'll say you're right.

 

[Born sinner]

He was born with pure jumbo chakra so stronger than Madara I'd say

 

[Rinnesense]

I'd say stronger than pre-jin Madara since he directly inherited his mom's powerful chakra.

 

[KingHashirama]

First off all that was an incomplete juubi and second the entire SA was fighting it... When someone that can battle and defeat a full powered juubi by themself. Then I'll say you're right.

Entire SA was fighting it.. And you do realize Obito was going to become the jinchuriki by himself, whether the alliance was there or not..

Hell look at the 9-tails.. second strongest tailed beast, yet is treated like a pet by people like Hashirama/Obito/Madara. come on now. Use some logic bro.