Might guy vs one eyed SM madara

[Touken]

Somebody clearly isn't reading. That statement clearly says that the air was tanked. No clue where you got "The air tanked Evening Elephant" from.

He was barely making sentences that made sense. Does it even look like I was being serious with him?

Lol, again somebody clearly forgot how to read. He clearly stated that Gai's punches have the force to break through, but since they aren't Senjutsu, they'll just end up getting negated so it won't be broken. If you are going to be cynical, please, please make sure you are the one who knows what they are talking about.

-You misinterpret his words twice.

-Then you post a scan of Madara being punched through his own shield as if its proof that Gai physically touched it and busted through it.

Yeah, wasn't being serious. Lol, his punches don't have to be senjutsu-based to break through. It nullifies ninjutsu and nothing else. The fact that Madara soaked up most of the attack and still went flying through his own Onmyouten shield clearly shows Gai has more than enough strength to destroy it.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

I will elaborate it to those who have a working brain.

That's marvelous! I'm really looking forward to some more comedy out of you. Thanks MadaraRules, you're the best!

 

[Bronze]

1- If it weren't aimed at Hashirama, where was it aimed?

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2- The giant Rasengan only slightly damaged it. As for the Arrows+TBB you're wrong. The thing that scattered there was Sasuke's arrow. Notice they have the same color:

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3- The thousand punches of Shinju senju never actually reached Perfect Susanoo since most of them were destroyed by the continuous Bijuudamas. Only the remaining punches actually hit Madara's Perfect Susanoo

-You posed the scan yourself. They were aimed at the Mokuton arms, hence why the top of the mountains were slashed, instead of the bottom parts.

-Point being, orb is weak defense against Senjutsu and non-chakra based attacks. Huh? i am not seeing your point for that bit.

-Actually, you can see more than hundred arms have already pounded PS, while PS was slashing few of them [

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]. Last panel.

 

[A v i]

Wait,I just noticed Bogard's post in this thread.

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actually made me belive that he could beat PS.

Man,the depth of that attack is beyond the charts,it made Gai look like an ant.I didn't noticed it.

 

[~Sky~]

Wait,I just noticed Bogard's post in this thread.

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actually made me belive that he could beat PS.

Man,the depth of that attack is beyond the charts,it made Gai look like an ant.I didn't noticed it.

A few more of those and Gai would've gotten to the core of the planet.

 

[KidGamer65]

He was barely making sentences that made sense. Does it even look like I was being serious with him?

His sentences did make sense. In fact they made perfect sense.

Yeah, wasn't being serious. Lol, his punches don't have to be senjutsu-based to break through. It nullifies ninjutsu and nothing else. The fact that Madara soaked up most of the attack and still went flying through his own Onmyouten shield clearly shows Gai has more than enough strength to destroy it.

Again, you are wrong. The

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function of the black chakra would disintegrate Gai's hand if he had touched it with his own hand.

He already stated that Gai has enough strength to break through it...that's you misinterpreting his post again. Its not even hard to understand.

-Gai has enough force to smash through it.

-But if he punches it, his hand turns into dust.

 

[A v i]

Giant Rasengan destroyed the black orbs [

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]. TBB and Susanoo arrow as well [

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]. Evening Elephant power scale is around the scale of 2 mountains with that being said. Perfect Susanoo was slashing more than 7 mountains. This puts the force and power of the attack of PS FAR over Evening Elephant.

This argument isn't valid as Sanjutsu attacks are clearly more effective than taijutsu attacks against Juubis jin.

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who has the same level of durability as Juubito.

 

[Bronze]

This argument isn't valid as Sanjutsu attacks are clearly more effective than taijutsu attacks against Juubis jin. A mere Rasengan did considerable damage on Obitos body where as hirudora didn't even put a scar on Uchiha Madara who has the same level of durability as Juubito.

Nope. Madara before becoming Jinchuuriki, was tanking hits from Bijuu, Ay and etc, wheres Obito was damaged by Kunai. Madara is more durable than Obito in base and Jinchuuriki. Also, you have no proof, that Senjutsu is more effective than Taijutsu.

 

[Bogard]

-You posed the scan yourself. They were aimed at the Mokuton arms, hence why the top of the mountains were slashed, instead of the bottom parts.

-Point being, orb is weak defense against Senjutsu and non-chakra based attacks. Huh? i am not seeing your point for that bit.

-Actually, you can see more than hundred arms have already pounded PS, while PS was slashing few of them [

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]. Last panel.

Look again. The first swing is aimed at Hashirama who blocks it with a mokuton golem(so reacted and blocked). On the second page we see Hashirama doing a salto because he dodged the attack. You can even notice the rock on his position was cut in half

Orbs aren't weak against senjutsu or taijutsu. It's just the only way to hit it. If the attack is not strong enough, it will never even scratch the orbs. So all what it proved is the senpou rasengan was strong enough to scratch it a bit, Sasuke's Susanoo swing not enough to scratch it when Gai's punch was strong enough to completely destroy it

I can't see your link here though. I dunno why

 

[A v i]

Nope. Madara before becoming Jinchuuriki, was tanking hits from Bijuu, Ay and etc, wheres Obito was damaged by Kunai. Madara is more durable than Obito in base and Jinchuuriki. Also, you have no proof, that Senjutsu is more effective than Taijutsu.

Madara lost an arm against Bijjus and they did considerable damage to his body,it ain't a durability feat by any means.He took those attacks head on coz he has healing abilities which means that he is no different from Tsunade in this regard.Durability means tanking attacks with minimum damage not healing ur body after getting injured.Durability levels of Madara and Obito are irrelevant here as they are more or less on the same level as a jin of juubi.Madara might be superior but that dosen't mean that he is on a whole new level so same logics can be applied to both of them.

I just showed u the proof to say that they were more effective.Midday tiger in general is away more distractible than normal rasengan but The level of damage Rasengan can do to a Juubi's jin is more than what hirudora can do.

 

[Bronze]

Look again. The first swing is aimed at Hashirama who blocks it with a mokuton golem(so reacted and blocked). On the second page we see Hashirama doing a salto because he dodged the attack. You can even notice the rock on his position was cut in half

Orbs aren't weak against senjutsu or taijutsu. It's just the only way to hit it. If the attack is not strong enough, it will never even scratch the orbs. So all what it proved is the senpou rasengan was strong enough to scratch it a bit, Sasuke's Susanoo swing not enough to scratch it when Gai's punch was strong enough to completely destroy it

I can't see your link here though. I dunno why

-If you're referring to this

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, there was no speed used in that one. The attack had been made the page before. Rocks were flying, due to the amount of force the slash had contained.

-Yes they are. Senjutsu is, since Juubi is made of nature which is what Senjutsu composed of. Taijutsu is, since Taijutsu does not use chakra nor Ninjutsu. Any other attack such as Juubi TBB etc wont do anything, as they're not weakness to the orbs. Senpou Rasengan cracked it and destroyed it [

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]. That's why Obito was pushed back. Sasuke's Susanoo swing isn't even on Madara's PS level to begin with.

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Madara lost an arm against Bijjus and they did considerable damage to his body,it ain't a durability feat by any means.He took those attacks head on coz he has healing abilities which means that he is no different from Tsunade in this regard.Durability means tanking attacks with minimum damage not healing ur body after getting injured.Durability levels of Madara and Obito are irrelevant here as they are more or less on the same level as a jin of juubi.Madara might be superior but that dosen't mean that he is on a whole new level so same logics can be applied to both of them.

I just showed u the proof to say that they were more effective.Midday tiger in general is away more distractible than normal rasengan but The level of damage Rasengan can do to a Juubi's jin is more than what hirudora can do.

Yeah, no, since Madara healed after taking those hits, which means he tanked them at first. So your point is irrelevant, as Madara's durability level is on different level.

You showed nothing. Also, Madara had anticipated Hirudora before it hit him [

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[Touken]

His sentences did make sense. In fact they made perfect sense.

He was making references to Evening Elephant by saying "the air that gai punched towards onmyoudon was tanked", and to be honest, I didn't have a clue he was referring to Evening Elephant there. He wasn't helping himself by making references like that.

Again, you are wrong. The

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function of the black chakra would disintegrate Gai's hand if he had touched it with his own hand.

He already stated that Gai has enough strength to break through it...that's you misinterpreting his post again. Its not even hard to understand.

-Gai has enough force to smash through it.

-But if he punches it, his hand turns into dust.

Again, I didn't know what he was talking about, mainly because nothing of the sort's happened in the manga. You clearly see in that scan that the remains of Hiruzen's shuriken are still intact. If that was Jinton, nothing would remain. Also, Tobirama's already held an Onmyouten orb in his hand [

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]. No part of him disintegrated.

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

8th gate Gai is a match for Rikudou Madara, but hes no match to SM Madara

"facepalm" to the logic of NB


Gai's Taijutsu trumps Senjutsu

 

[Exaar]

Just going to put this out there.

People say the only reason Obito's black shield blocked the juubi's TBB it because it lacks senjutsu and erased it.

But Isn't the juubi's power basically Natural energy anyway, So why wouldn't the Juubi Jins attacks be Senjutsu infused also?. Thus it could not erase the damage that would have been done by the juubi's TBB's in the first place

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[KidGamer65]

He was making references to Evening Elephant by saying "the air that gai punched towards onmyoudon was tanked", and to be honest, I didn't have a clue he was referring to Evening Elephant there. He wasn't helping himself by making references like that.

I mean, what other air would Gai punch? Its been stated that Evening Elephant is just air pressure.....I mean, what other air would he be referring to?

Again, I didn't know what he was talking about, mainly because nothing of the sort's happened in the manga. You clearly see in that scan that the remains of Hiruzen's shuriken are still intact. If that was Jinton, nothing would remain. Also, Tobirama's already held an Onmyouten orb in his hand [

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]. No part of him disintegrated.

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It only hit part of it, so of course only part of it is going to be disintegrated....If Jinton hits Naruto's arm will his whole body be turned to dust? Lol, no. If Gai hits it, his fist turns into dust.

Mentioning Tobirama is useless here. There are already multiple scans of the black chakra disintegrating its targets.

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And there should be more.

 

[Bronze]

Just going to put this out there.

People say the only reason Obito's black shield blocked the juubi's TBB it because it lacks senjutsu and erased it.

But Isn't the juubi's power basically Natural energy anyway, So why wouldn't the Juubi Jins attacks be Senjutsu infused also?. Thus it could not erase the damage that would have been done by the juubi's TBB's in the first place

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The Bijuu Dama doesn't use natural energy. It uses black and white energy [

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]. Completely different energy type attack.

 

[A v i]

Yeah, no, since Madara healed after taking those hits, which means he tanked them at first. So your point is irrelevant, as Madara's durability level is on different level.

Lmao,he lost an arm even when he has Susanoo to support him yet he tanked them.Ya.
Healing after getting injured isn't even wrothy of considering a durability feat otherwise even Tsunade can match 3rd Raikage.

You showed nothing.

So that's the only thing u can tell me?Insted of trying to bypass the argument Why don't u show me feats that suggests otherwise?

Rasengan damaged Juubis jin : Manga fact.

Despite of being more powerful than Rasengan Midday tiger failed to land a dent on Juubis jin:Manga fact.

Also, Madara had anticipated Hirudora before it hit him [

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So what? Did Madara used any defence to protect himself? NO.
Did Madara managed to stop Gai from attacking him? NO.

Gai clearly landed a blow on Madara with Midday tiger yet 0 damage.

 

[Bronze]

Lmao,he lost an arm even when he has Susanoo to support him yet he tanked them. Ya.


So that's the onlything u can tell me?Insted of trying to bypass the argument Why don't u show me feats that suggests otherwise?

Rasengan damaged Juubis jin : Manga fact.

Despite of being more powerful than Rasengan Midday tiger failed to land a dent on Juubis jin:Manga fact.





So what? Did Madara used any defence to protect himself? NO.
Did Madara managed to stop Gai from attacking him? NO.

Gai clearly landed a blow on Madara with Midday tiger yet 0 damage.

I should ignore after reading the bold, since the scan i posted shows Madara waving his staff to block and attack Gai.

 

[Exaar]

The Bijuu Dama doesn't use natural energy. It uses black and white energy [

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]. Completely different energy type attack.

Naruto could add Natural chakra to his TBB, Juubi/Obito can do it also

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[Bronze]

Naruto could add Natural chakra to his TBB, Juubi/Obito can do it also

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If Juubito would add it, then he will end up blowing himself up, since the explosion of Juubi's TBB is too big. Either way, Senjutsu is when combining nature chakra and spritual+physical chakra together. Obito cant use Senjutu.