Huh? 5G Lee's faster than Kamui, 5G Lee's slower than Juubito and Tobirama's reacted to Juubito. Kamui isn't too fast for Tobirama, not a chance. GK goes in one direction [
5g Lee is faster than Kamui? Not sure if serious. If you speak of rescuing Gai, that was an off panel feat and warping oneself is slower than an offensive warp. Kakashi can easily just warp Tobirama's head, which would be a lot quicker. Kakashi was able to warp Mazo's arm (much bigger than a human body) mid Kuchiyose, which is instant
You people going on about him reacting to jubito, you realise he had to die in order to do that. If not for his edo body he would have been blitzed.
5g Lee is faster than Kamui? Not sure if serious. If you speak of rescuing Gai, that was an off panel feat and warping oneself is slower than an offensive warp. Kakashi can easily just warp Tobirama's head, which would be a lot quicker. Kakashi was able to warp Mazo's arm (much bigger than a human body) mid Kuchiyose, which is instant
Are u sure ur talking about Tobirama but not Minato? Are u saying that Tobirama and his EDO moves together to pull that feat or u are actually saying that Tobirama can teleport hsi EDO without physical contact? Regardless,since when does Tobirama carries a bunch of marked Kunai and since when does he starts the battle by spamming markings?
The fact that he wasn't anywhere near Gai makes the feat more credible. It doesn't matter where he was, he still was faster than Madara's Onmyouten orb. Madara established that his orbs are faster than either Obito's Kamui or Kakashi's Kamui, and that it didn't matter if Kakashi was the one to warp Obito or not [
Lee could have been a few meters away once Gai began fighting. He was off panel for quite some scans. For all we know, he started blitzing the moment Gai was on the floor which would disrupt your calculations. Besides, you need to understand that Kamui is a much harder jutsu to avoid. It literally spawns on the opponent
And? If he was right next to Gai and managed to move him before the Onmyouten orb hit him, it'd still show 5G Lee's faster than the Onmyouten orbs, and thus faster than Kamui.
Far too slow? His reactions are almost instantaneous, at least on par with Minato's. It's a good thing Hiraishin only requires a thought process to activate and is instant.
Since when does he is capable of such a feat? If ur going to say that he can do that he is also a FTG user then plz don't do it,manga showed that there are differences b/w Minato and Tobirama and there are things that only Minato can do and Tobirama can't. He used physical contact to teleport Minato eventhough he has a marking on him which renders ur point useless.
No. He could have been in motion before Madara flicked his orb. That disrupts your entire proposition, seeing as there's a likely chance Lee had a head start.
Is Tobirama's chakra flowing through Minato? No. Is it flowing through his Edo? Yeah.
Like I've said before, there's no delay before using Hiraishin, but there is a delay when the Mazo's extracted from someone and then is being teleported elsewhere. Is Tobirama being extracted from someone? lol, no. His reactions are quicker than the delay before the Mazo being teleported. I honestly don't know what the problem is here, Minato managed to teleport away before Obito teleported him into the Kamui dimension, Tobirama does the same thing, especially when Kishi's established their Kamui speed is the same.T Bogard said:
There is a delay in everything. While Hiraishin is instant, the capacity to get out of the way depends on the reactions of the user. It's for that reason Tobirama couldn't get out of the way before Jubito ripped him apart, same goes for Minato against Jubidara.
So that's how it is? Same principle Minato used to teleport SA,isn't it? Possible.But how can u say that Tobirama's chakra flowing through EDO's body? As far as I know they have their own chakra.Yes,I know that it is Tobiramas jutsu but that dosen't mean that they have his chakra inside of them,it is a type of summoning so u saying that Tobirama's chakra flowing through EDO is same as saying that Naruto chakra flowing through Bunta.
And I didn't say there isn't, except that Tobirama's reactions are quicker than the delay the Mazo displayed. lol, he didn't want to get out of the way [
Latest chapter regarding Kamui speed clearly shows they're the same. It doesn't matter what the speed has shown in the past when in the present it's been established the Kamui speed is the same.
Reacted to JM Madara? Care to show me where?
I haven't a clue why you're talking about pressure. Yeah, Kakashi was aiming for the Mazo's head but ended up getting it's arm, and the gap between it's head and it's forearm is much bigger than Tobirama's entire body, so if he tried to Kamui his head, he'll end up missing. Moreover, Tobirama's a sensor. As soon as he senses the build-up of chakra in Kakashi's eye, he's instantly alert, increasing his reaction time since he knows something's coming, so it's not like he'll be caught unaware, such as Juubito vs. Tobirama & Hashirama, although even then he still managed to react to Juubito's speed which is far faster than any shinobi dead or alive.
Except that I've just explained what happened, lol. Plus, you have no idea which Gate Gai's in there, or if he's in any Gate there, considering his hair's not standing up and he's sometimes seen with just aura.
Tobirama can control whatever his Edo does and that can only be done by chakra. Unlike Bunta, the Edo's dead and can only move if Tobirama wishes.Avinash012 said:
