Kakashi vs Tobirama

[Tobby17]

Well it's mostly Kakashi fans saying he will win anyway..

Tobirama beats Kakashi mid-high diff

 

[Tobby17]

Tobirama doesn't even have an edo tensei feat to his name -_-

let's use a bit of common sense now shall we?

 

[Avinash012]

Tobirama can control whatever his Edo does and that can only be done by chakra. Unlike Bunta, the Edo's dead and can only move if Tobirama wishes.

U got a point there.

 

[Mypower]

Kakashi wins Mid Diff

 

[Avinash012]

Well it's mostly Kakashi fans saying he will win anyway..

Tobirama beats Kakashi mid-high diff

Plz don't say that,till now there are less than/= 3 none Tobirama fans who said that Tobiama wins this on the other hand I can name more than 3 people who said that Kakashi wins this.
Team Kakashi:

Spoiler

Tobirama got owned by base Madara when Kakashi reacted Jubidara. Kakashi wins

I used to think Tobirama won easily, but his recent kamui feats(especially the gedo mazo..) made me change my mind.

Kakashi, Kamui snipe

Kakashi wins U_U

Kakashi takes this handily. Kamui trumps Tobirama, ultimately.

Kakashi mid diff.

Kakashi neg-diff.

Kamui wins.

kakashi wins > Kamui >>>> Tobirama's reaction time

Kamuiii.

How many of them are Kakashi fanboys?


Now team Tobirama:how many of them are not fanboys?

Spoiler

Tobirama takes this rather easily with Edo.

He wins w/o Edo too.

Tobirama .

Tobirama high diff.

Tobirama wins unless Kakashi live up to his hype of having copied a thousand techniques

Tobirama low Difficulty Uses Edo Tensei

 

[Bronze]

Kakashi wins without Kamui.

 

[Conspirator.]

How does he win without kamui? Just curious.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Well it's mostly Kakashi fans saying he will win anyway..

Tobirama beats Kakashi mid-high diff

lol at that butthurt. Because everyone is saying Kakashi wins they are kakashi fans, great logic. DId it ever occur to you that most people just think Kakashi is better. It's only tobirama fans that are in denial, only people that say Tobirama wins are tobirama fans.

let's use a bit of common sense now shall we?

Show me his feats of summoning. Tell me the list of ninja he can summon, don't just say edo fodder because you don't know. Show me that he has the necessary preparations and sacrifices to actually use the jutsu right now, you'd think he would have done it this war if he could. His version of edo tensei is fodder, not even on part 1 Orochimaru's level (and that version was crap).

 

[miromiro]

Plz don't say that,till now there are less than/= 3 none Tobirama fans who said that Tobiama wins this on the other hand I can name more than 3 people who said that Kakashi wins this.
Team Kakashi:

How many of them are Kakashi fanboys?


Now team Tobirama:how many of them are not fanboys?

I'm not a fanboy, but Tobirama simply can't counter Kamui.

 

[Gold Lightning]

I'm not a fanboy, but Tobirama simply can't counter Kamui.

He was trying to say you weren't, its mr Tobby that said you were.

 

[WolfHaley]

How does Tobirama get past Doton: Domu?

 

[Latios]

Why are people arguing that Tobirama's Edo Tensei can beat Kakashi when his Edo Tensei wasn't even perfected? :nuts:

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Kakashi take this with Kamui.

 

[Rama Saravanan]

i cant beleive this!tobirama is a genius who created edo,ftg,kage bunshin.kakashi using kamui this much,is considered as a plothole by me. kakashi reacted to madara,but obito took the lead.tobirama wins with mid-dif

 

[Gold Lightning]

i cant beleive this!tobirama is a genius who created edo,ftg,kage bunshin.kakashi using kamui this much,is considered as a plothole by me. kakashi reacted to madara,but obito took the lead.tobirama wins with mid-dif

And Kakashi is a genius who invented the Lightning Blade, copied over 1000 jutsu and awakened the Mangekyou Sharingan. So what is your point.

So Kakashi improving his proficiency with Kamui is a plot hole, yeah ok. Not everything fans don't agree is a plot whole for goodness sake, the author knows better than you do.

 

[WolfHaley]

The Kamui vs FTG deadlock is boring. People only like to mention Kamui if it suits them.

What should really be important is who can overcome who in a one-on-one in Ninjutsu and Taijutsu.

 

[Tobby17]

lol at that butthurt. Because everyone is saying Kakashi wins they are kakashi fans, great logic. DId it ever occur to you that most people just think Kakashi is better. It's only tobirama fans that are in denial, only people that say Tobirama wins are tobirama fans.



Show me his feats of summoning. Tell me the list of ninja he can summon, don't just say edo fodder because you don't know. Show me that he has the necessary preparations and sacrifices to actually use the jutsu right now, you'd think he would have done it this war if he could. His version of edo tensei is fodder, not even on part 1 Orochimaru's level (and that version was crap).

So by your logic Hashirama can't used FTW because he hasn't been shown to use it???..

Tobirama invented the justu- still doesn't have any edos?
Madara has seen the edo in action before and Tobirama was the only one known to use it- still doesn't have any edos?
Tobirama himself states he's used the Gojou Kibakufuda b4 but it's the first time he's used it on himself- plz tell me if it's the first time he used it on himself and he created the justu for Edos, whose body did he use the justu on prior?

And no, I couldn't care less what ppl think of this match up, Kamui isn't ending it and nothing else in Kakashi's arsenal is taking out Tobirama, if necessary, Tobirama simply outlasts him..

 

[Gold Lightning]

So by your logic Hashirama can't used FTW because he hasn't been shown to use it???..

Tobirama invented the justu- still doesn't have any edos?
Madara has seen the edo in action before and Tobirama was the only one known to use it- still doesn't have any edos?
Tobirama himself states he's used the Gojou Kibakufuda b4 but it's the first time he's used it on himself- plz tell me if it's the first time he used it on himself and he created the justu for Edos, whose body did he use the justu on prior?

And no, I couldn't care less what ppl think of this match up, Kamui isn't ending it and nothing else in Kakashi's arsenal is taking out Tobirama, if necessary, Tobirama simply outlasts him..[/QUOTE]

In bold: Because that's your ideal scenario, keep fantasizing. Kakashi has plently other than Kamui to take Tobirama out and with his intel on FTG from Minato, he won't falter to it so easily. Kakashi is a smart guy too.

FTW is completely different, Hashirama's freakin face is on Madara's chest which is why he can use it, we know Hashirama can use it. I know Tobirama can use edo tensei, but unlike FTW, edo tensei requires prep. And you and all your tobirama buddies fail to show this prep, or feats that he has carried out this prep before hand. Plus Tobirama's edo tensei is the worst version so just assuming feats for it doesn't really help.

I have no doubt in my mind that he can use the jutsu, but if you can't even name one person he can summon then what's the point. You can't just make up edo fodder in every vs thread, that's so stupid.

I can name you a list of Ninja that both Kabuto and Orochimaru have access to, but can you do the same for Tobirama? As far as I'm concerned, his only feat with it is using it on his edo self.

 

[Penguin]

I am dying from everyone and their kamui argument. Kakashi won't use it off the bat, and Hiraishin is a capable counter to it. Kamui is not instantaneous and requires the chakra build up in the eye which Tobirama can sense, whereas Hiraishin needs no such "prep". I cannot believe how stupid someone can sound when talking about kamui. :leaf:

Tobirama got owned by base Madara when Kakashi reacted Jubidara. Kakashi wins

Not...not sure if serious...I might be misreading the manga...but I am pretty sure Tobirama did have the upper hand against SM Madara and then he got off paneled. I am also pretty sure Juubi Madara hit Minato three times and threw Minato's arm at Kakashi before Kakashi could even think. But......you know.

So by your logic Hashirama can't used FTW because he hasn't been shown to use it???..

Tobirama invented the justu- still doesn't have any edos?
Madara has seen the edo in action before and Tobirama was the only one known to use it- still doesn't have any edos?
Tobirama himself states he's used the Gojou Kibakufuda b4 but it's the first time he's used it on himself- plz tell me if it's the first time he used it on himself and he created the justu for Edos, whose body did he use the justu on prior?

And no, I couldn't care less what ppl think of this match up, Kamui isn't ending it and nothing else in Kakashi's arsenal is taking out Tobirama, if necessary, Tobirama simply outlasts him..

In bold: Because that's your ideal scenario, keep fantasizing. Kakashi has plently other than Kamui to take Tobirama out and with his intel on FTG from Minato, he won't falter to it so easily. Kakashi is a smart guy too.

FTW is completely different, Hashirama's freakin face is on Madara's chest which is why he can use it, we know Hashirama can use it. I know Tobirama can use edo tensei, but unlike FTW, edo tensei requires prep. And you and all your tobirama buddies fail to show this prep, or feats that he has carried out this prep before hand. Plus Tobirama's edo tensei is the worst version so just assuming feats for it doesn't really help.

I have no doubt in my mind that he can use the jutsu, but if you can't even name one person he can summon then what's the point. You can't just make up edo fodder in every vs thread, that's so stupid.

I can name you a list of Ninja that both Kabuto and Orochimaru have access to, but can you do the same for Tobirama? As far as I'm concerned, his only feat with it is using it on his edo self.

Keep grasping at straws. You can disagree with Kishi all you want. It is quite clear that Tobirama can use Edo Tensei in battle, and the good thing about his version is that anyone can be used for it.

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[AGoodBoy]

tobirama wins mid diff.