Hashirama can beat MS Obito

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I've seen pple saying Hashirama loses to Kamui without knowledge...

-without knowledge on woodclone, obito loses
-without knowledge on flower tree world, obito loses
-without knowledge on Mokujin, obito loses

Obito can't kamui Hashirama large scale jutsu's, even if he can it will take a longer time to do that, and we all know Hashirama is a mid-range fighter and so kamui Hashirama is out of the equation


In conclusion Hashirama>>>any version of Obito except Jin Obito(Juubito)
 

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Fan scenarios decide the outcome. Realistically in the manga, Obito wouldn't even bother challenging Hashirama straight up unless he has a plot or something..

Plus i never knew teleporting someone to another dimension = winning the battle. o-o
 

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Obito has Mokuton and was trained by Madara, why wouldn't he know of those techniques?
 

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Lol If hashirama has no info on kamui then he can't escape a warp from behind, you have to accept it.

Having info on all those abilities means nothing, & with manga info obito would most likely know that hashi can use clones, FTW gets taken out by katon, & Mokujin leaves hashi wide open.

Even with the assumption that obito has no info on hashi's abilities, obito still wins.
 

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Same thing will happen in the scan, except Hashirama will die in then Kamui world.
 

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Lol if hashirama has no info on kamui then he can't escape a warp from behind, you have to accept it.

Having info on all those abilities means nothing, & with manga info obito would most likely know that hashi can use clones, FTW gets taken out by katon, & Mokujin leaves him wide open.
wood clones solo.. Just saying

Knowing about wood clone is pointless unless he has Madara's EMS..
 

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No they don't, not without info on kamui.



Using wood clones are useless unless hashi knows that obito will be appearing from behind.
Logically, Hashirama would start out with clones, just like Naruto does..

Obito would never know in the first place if that is a wood clone. And when he teleports that wood clone to Kamui dimension.. Obito si checkmated.
 

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Same thing will happen in the scan, except Hashirama will die in then Kamui world.

I know you're butthurt that edo Hashirama>edo Madara
 

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Trained for how many years???
Mokuton used how many times???

That's not the point. Madara spent a lot of time with Obito, had to be at least a couple years with his hair growing that long. And Obito needed to know enough about Madara to impersonate him. Is it really that unreasonable to assume Madara told Obito about the final fight between himself and Hashirama, or what happened in the fight?
 

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1) Hashirama wasn't held as the strongest to ever live in that era and "God of Shnobi" for nothing.
2) Hashirama's clones are the best clones we have seen in the Manga.
3) Hashirama's lifeforce+brute force stomps
4) the list goes on.

Saying Kamui solo Hashirama, is the same thing as saying Hiruzen gets soloed by a Kunai
 
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1) Hashirama wasn't held as the strongest to ever live in that era and "God of Shnobi" for nothing.
2) Hashirama's clones are the best clones we have seen in the Manga.
3) Hashirama's lifeforce+brute force stomps
4) the list goes on.

Saying Kamui solo Hashirama, is the same thing as saying Hiruzen gets soloed by Kunai



@Bold. He can tho.
 

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Fan scenarios decide the outcome. Realistically in the manga, Obito wouldn't even bother challenging Hashirama straight up unless he has a plot or something..

Plus i never knew teleporting someone to another dimension = winning the battle. o-o

lol, I can already tell that no one takes you seriously.
 

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Logically, Hashirama would start out with clones, just like Naruto does..

& Those clones have no info on kamui, so they try to attack obito unbeknownst to them that obito will warp the real one away.

Obito would never know in the first place if that is a wood clone. And when he teleports that wood clone to Kamui dimension.. Obito si checkmated.

Lol You say hashi starts out with clones, then you go on to say that obito won't know that hashi used any clones? I guess obito must be blind.

Face facts, hashi isn't protecting his blindspots with clones because he won't be expecting a warp, therefore anything hashi uses is useless.
 

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& Those clones have no info on kamui, so they try to attack obito unbeknownst to them that obito will warp the real one away.



Lol You say hashi starts out with clones, then you go on to say that obito won't know that hashi used any clones? I guess obito must be blind.

Face facts, hashi isn't protecting his blindspots with clones because he won't be expecting a warp, therefore anything hashi uses is useless.
See again, now you are making Hashirama himself attack Obito, when he doesn't have to.. Hence why I said these battles are decided by fan scenarios.

He doesn't even need to be in the battle itself. He doesn't even need to get close to Obito. FTW followed by Wood clones.. good luck to Obito knowing who the real Hashirama is.

the 5 Kages couldn't see when Madara switched out.. yet you are trying to claim a child inexperienced Obito in battle will be able to see the master of Mokuton switch out with wood clones.. nice to know..

Plus, Madara himself couldn't even see when Hashirama switched out with a clone.. lol.

So let me ask you this, how is Obito going to know which is the real Hashirama? Because as i Said Hashirama can just sit back and be somewhere else.. and if Obito uses Kamui on a wood clone.. he is automatically checkmated.


Plus, the winner of a mano e mano = last man standing.. not teleporting someone to another place.. rofl.
 
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