[Spoilers] [Discussions] Madara getting TnJ'd

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I think about it. This all what I could think of,whatever turn the manga takes, there will still be injustice,hatred,pain,suffering and revenge. In this real world.
 

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I don't know why people think otherwise, obviously he is getting tnj'd only a matter of time.!!

similar to obito, after he is defeated he gets TNJ'D.!!

Madara is like the only evil person left in nv, it wouldnt just sense for naruto to kill him and then achieve peace.!! if it was like that then whole concept of achieving true peace just Becomes BS.!!

that is not what naruto stands for.

No matter what madara must have a change of heart.!!

that's the demand of the plot.!!
 

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As much as I hate to admit it....Sasuke is probably going to TNJ madara. Well maybe not the way Naruto does his handiwork, but I do believe they will have some deep interactions in the future. Hashirama essentially foreshadowed it.
 

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no because Madara has an iron belief in his goals

it is far apart from Nagato in misguided goals

talking won't change him
 

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no because Madara has an iron belief in his goals

it is far apart from Nagato in misguided goals

talking won't change him

Yah Nagato was misguided. But Madara isn't unless Sage himself says his own history.
 

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As much as I hate to admit it....Sasuke is probably going to TNJ madara. Well maybe not the way Naruto does his handiwork, but I do believe they will have some deep interactions in the future. Hashirama essentially foreshadowed it.

If Sasuke is destined to TnJ Madara, then the only thing Sasuke would say is that he wants to become Hokage to change the system and bring Peace in a different way. But I don't think Madara would consider that.
 

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I don't know why people think otherwise, obviously he is getting tnj'd only a matter of time.!!

similar to obito, after he is defeated he gets TNJ'D.!!

Madara is like the only evil person left in nv, it wouldnt just sense for naruto to kill him and then achieve peace.!! if it was like that then whole concept of achieving true peace just Becomes BS.!!

that is not what naruto stands for.

No matter what madara must have a change of heart.!!

that's the demand of the plot.!!
I agree with you.
Naruto killing someone for peace is against his ninja way.
Sasuke might kill Madara for peace. Sasuke is like Danzo.
 

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Maybe when they end up fighting, Madara may see Izuna in sasuke, and hesitate at the last moment.(which would lead to his defeat at the hands of the alliance)
 

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Maybe when they end up fighting, Madara may see Izuna in sasuke, and hesitate at the last moment.(which would lead to his defeat at the hands of the alliance)

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Madara already pictured Izuna in Sasuke.
 
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This was foreshadowed by hashirama, when he was going to give sasuke a jutsu he said that madara can be stopped without using force.
Madara can only be stopped by
1- Talk no jutsu
2- Naruto and sasuke asspull combination.
 

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NOTE : NO HATE FOR MADARA. U_U

It is clear to everyone of us that Madara is unstoppable. He even knows about the eight gate, meaning he even knows how to counter it.
Now back to point. Apart from Gai, only people who are capable of defeating Madara are Naruto and Sasuke.
Possible power ups for Naruto : Juubi chakra mode along with a cup of tea with Sage of the six Paths.
Possible power ups for Sasuke : Rinnegan.

Why Madara getting TnJ'd?
We know why Madara waged war, becoming Juubi Jinchuuriki, plotting and planning Tsuki no Me blah blah blah. He blames everything on So6P only because of the things written on the Uchiha Tablet. Apart from that he has no other solid proof which can tell how and what were the situation during Sage's time.
We have only one person through whom we will get to see So6P, that is Naruto.
I think that there is a possibility that So6P might correct Madara about his past. And he (sage) might also tell that Infinite Tsukuyomi doesn't exists. (we already noticing that because Madara can control the God Tree by maintaining his strength but he's not doing it, maybe because of the plot)

And after that, Madara doesn't have any reason to move forward his plan. That will show the signs of TnJ.
But wait, there comes the twist. When Madara actually try to do a good thing, there is a possibility that Sasuke might kill Madara and with that many things will get twisted. And that might become a strong reason for Naruto vs Sasuke?

Even after being so OP, Madara is still doing nothing much to be impressive enough to be called as the Savior of the world (according to his definitions) And that might will prove the statement labelled to him "Uchiha Madara is a bitter Loser"
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Naruto and Sasuke are gonna both meet SO6P and i will come back here when it happens U_U
 

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Naruto and Sasuke are gonna both meet SO6P and i will come back here when it happens U_U

But Sasuke doesn't have anything related to Sage.
But Like I said in my theory/posts (as well as Hirudora) that most probably Sage will talk Madara through Naruto, meaning Sasuke will also be in the picture.
 

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But Sasuke doesn't have anything related to Sage.
But Like I said in my theory/posts (as well as Hirudora) that most probably Sage will talk Madara through Naruto, meaning Sasuke will also be in the picture.

Nothing related to the Sage ? are you high ?
He is the descendant of the elder son of the Sage.
And no , the Sage won't have anything to do with Madara.
Naruto played main role against Obito and now its Sasuke who is gonna play a main role against Madara ( with Naruto as backup like against Obito when Sasuke himself was backup )
After that it will be about the Juubi and then the final fight of Naruto vs Sasuke.

Kishi said in his last interview , he's gonna write about : Madara , the Juubi and then Sasuke.

Edit : Kish develops Naruto and Sasuke in parallels (he said it himself that they are like Yin and Yang and if he thinks of something about Naruto he must think of something about Sasuke )

Just a little example in this arc :

Naruto got his new PU ( KCM ) , got out and fought some Zetsu and got helped by Itachi against a really powerful opponent ( Nagato )
Sasuke got his new PU ( EMS ) , got out and fought some Zetsu and got helped by Itachi against a really powerful opponent ( Kabuto )

And after that he fought someone who he can relate to (Obito )
So Sasuke must fight someone who he can relate to ( Madara ) ( and even Hashirama himself said that Sasuke can become a Madara 2.0 , and he can stop him )

Heck even in the last chapter they are getting healed simultaneously while receiving their last PU.
 
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Naaah..!! I didn't liked the last part.. And in the whole manga/anime Madara is the Top Class Enemy and he being
beaten by only Sasuke alone.. That doesn't makes any sense... Though something after Naruto,Sasuke VS Madara
might happen which would turn Sasuke's path and will create twist...

And another thing.. So6P might come and have a cup of tea.. But on the other hand Izuna Uchiha might also come so
that every mystery of Uchiha would get cleared by him.. And he might Prevent Madara from his evil doings.. Like what
NAruto did with Obito.. But rather that will also not makes sense... It has to be something related with So6P and Izuna too...
 

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Nothing related to the Sage ? are you high ?
He is the descendant of the elder son of the Sage. But Sasge had done nothing to his sons because of which he can meet the current generation. I said Naruto meeting the Sage because naruto has the chakra of the nine bijuus, the sage said that there will be someone who will guide them on the right path. Maybe that's why he might have sealed his chakra in a way that would be trigger when all the bijuus chakra comes together. (not like how they came together by getting sealed inside Gedo)
And no , the Sage won't have anything to do with Madara. But currently the Sage is held responsible by Madara for the current situation of the world.
Naruto played main role against Obito and now its Sasuke who is gonna play a main role against Madara ( with Naruto as backup like against Obito when Sasuke himself was backup ) Sasuke can only talk with his weapons, no words for him. Naruto will be doing the talking part, or in this case, Sage through Naruto.
After that it will be about the Juubi and then the final fight of Naruto vs Sasuke.

Kishi said in his last interview , he's gonna write about : Madara , the Juubi and then Sasuke.

Edit : Kish develops Naruto and Sasuke in parallels (he said it himself that they are like Yin and Yang and if he thinks of something about Naruto he must think of something about Sasuke )

Just a little example in this arc :

Naruto got his new PU ( KCM ) , got out and fought some Zetsu and got helped by Itachi against a really powerful opponent ( Nagato )
Sasuke got his new PU ( EMS ) , got out and fought some Zetsu and go helped by Itachi against a really powerful opponent ( Kabuto )

And after that he fought someone who he can relate to (Obito )
So Sasuke must fight someone who he can relate to ( Madara ) ( and even Hashirama himself said that Sasuke can become a Madara 2.0 , and he can stop him )
Yeah Sasuke might be able to stop Madara, but I was talking about Sage correcting Madara's way of thinking because of the written stuff on the tablet
Heck even in the last chapter they are getting healed simultaneously while receiving their last PU.This isn't Naruto's last power up, Just like Sasuke is close to reach his destined powerups which are the ultimate weapons, Naruto hasn't got anything from the Uzumaki or namikaze clan
what do you think about the bold part???
 

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what do you think about the bold part???

I see , so that's what you meant by related.
But there is also the possibility that they will meet him in a world between the real world and the after life ( like Kakashi and his father ) since the 2 of them are supposedly dead.

Also don't forget that early Shippuden 3 T Sasuke can enter Naruto's consciousness and speak with the Kyuubi.

Sage is responsible for all what ensued after his death not Madara alone.

Naruto himself said that he isn't good at speeches when he spook with Sasuke after the Danzo fight , and plus Sasuke was always obsessed by revenge , we never saw him doing a speech , so we can't say he is good or bad ,especially if the guy he is facing is like what he could have been had he not meet with Itachi and Hashirama.

As i said , the Sage is responsible for everything not Madara alone , but i do agree with you on this part because there is a possibility that the Elder son created the tablet or altered it.

Uzumaki sealing yea but Namikaze clan ? since when was it a clan and since when did they have their own techniques ?

Minato's arsenal is FTG which is a Senju Technique ( Tobirama ) , Rasengan ( a Bijuu Dama rip off) , Uzumaki sealings and Sage Mode.
 

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I see , so that's what you meant by related.
But there is also the possibility that they will meet him in a world between the real world and the after life ( like Kakashi and his father ) since the 2 of them are supposedly dead. But in actuality Sage never thought of Naruto and Sasuke would be the destined children to whom he would entrust his responsibilities, Kakashi's case was different. His father regretted his decision and that's why he wanted to apologize to Kakashi

Also don't forget that early Shippuden 3 T Sasuke can enter Naruto's consciousness and speak with the Kyuubi. this happens only if their eyes meets.

Sage is responsible for all what ensued after his death not Madara alone.

Naruto himself said that he isn't good at speeches when he spook with Sasuke after the Danzo fight , and plus Sasuke was always obsessed by revenge , we never saw him doing a speech , so we can't say he is good or bad ,especially if the guy he is facing is like what he could have been had he not meet with Itachi and Hashirama.

As i said , the Sage is responsible for everything not Madara alone , but i do agree with you on this part because there is a possibility that the Elder son created the tablet or altered it.

Uzumaki sealing yea but Namikaze clan ? since when was it a clan and since when did they have their own techniques ?I'm not actually saying that there is some techniques from Namikaze clan, but there might be something else that Naruto must know since he has blood of a Namikaze as well.

Minato's arsenal is FTG which is a Senju Technique ( Tobirama ) , Rasengan ( a Bijuu Dama rip off) , Uzumaki sealings and Sage Mode.

what do you think?
 
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