[Spoilers] Sasuke is getting the Rinnegan

[osba]

i hope it does! my theory on sharingan and rinnegan abillities might be proven by this ^.^

 

[Transcendence]

No, Naruto will gain a power that equals the Juubi. Sasuke will get a power that equals the Sage prior to the Sage becoming a Jin. Thus the both of them will be equals.

The way you speak in absolute terms seriously irks me. Stop that, please. You don't know exactly what is going to happen, and you keep saying that Sasuke represents Rikudou, which he doesn't.​

 

[Shinato]

The way you speak in absolute terms seriously irks me. Stop that, please. You don't know exactly what is going to happen, and you keep saying that Sasuke represents Rikudou, which he doesn't.​

He represents his power, and I though we were discussing possibilities here. So I didn't think I would need to add things such as highly likely to my posts. But I can do that in future if that would put your mind to ease. Also, what I said at the start of this post is highly likely.

 

[adeshina365]

I think we might be getting a little ahead of ourselves. I agree that Rinnegan is still a possibility, but it seems like we haven't been shown what Itachi was referring to.

I don't feel like I'm getting ahead of myself; Sasuke is getting Hashirama's cells pumped into him. This is a blatant setup for Sasuke acquiring the Rinnegan.

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Before gaining Senju related powers, Sasuke needs to show exactly what the meaning of this is. His Uchiha blood still needs to be the focus, I feel the Rinnegan is a possibility but, if it does come to fruition, it will need to come after Sasuke proves the full potential of Uchiha, which Madara has not reached. Rinnegan is not necessary.

Sasuke needs to both utilize his brother's ocular powers, and show what the Eternal Mangekyo is truly capable of, before touching on further dojutsu.

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Sasuke's Kaleidoscope eye is not yet done. If the Rinnegan is in the plans for Sasuke, I think it's too early.

There's no way of knowing if Itachi's statement about Madara not reaching the Uchiha's full potential is even true. Itachi said a lot of other things about Madara which have been shown to be incorrect.

The way I see it, Kishimoto probably views Sasuke's usage of the "Perfect" Susanoo as Sasuke reaching the full potential of the Eternal Mangekyou. This isn't to say that Sasuke has mastered it, but that the bulk potential has been reached. I say this only because Sasuke's acquisition of Hashirama's cells is too blatant of an indicator to ignore. It should also be mentioned that just because Sasuke has the Rinnegan doesn't mean that he has to stop using Mangekyou jutsu.

Sasuke's acquisition of the Rinnegan would also serve as a nice foil to Naruto's acquisition of a "Juubi Mode". With both being powers that the Rikudo once possessed.

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

I don't feel like I'm getting ahead of myself; Sasuke is getting Hashirama's cells pumped into him. This is a blatant setup for Sasuke acquiring the Rinnegan.

I've discussed this with you before, you know that I'm not against Sasuke acquiring Rinnegan, I just feel like it'd be too early for new ocular powers to come into play, if he hasn't yet revealed many of the hinted aspects of the Mangekyo.

There's no way of knowing if Itachi's statement about Madara not reaching the Uchiha's full potential is even true. Itachi said a lot of other things about Madara which have been shown to be incorrect.

I'm aware, it just seems as though, the way he spoke, suggests some sort of greater power of Uchiha. Orochimaru's statements also suggest something of the sort, he would have had no knowledge of Sasuke gaining Senju type powers at the time.

The way I see it, Kishimoto probably views Sasuke's usage of the "Perfect" Susanoo as Sasuke reaching the full potential of the Eternal Mangekyou. This isn't to say that Sasuke has mastered it, but that the bulk potential has been reached. I say this only because Sasuke's acquisition of Hashirama's cells is too blatant of an indicator to ignore. It should also be mentioned that just because Sasuke has the Rinnegan doesn't mean that he has to stop using Mangekyou jutsu.

That's an ability of Madara, though. I felt we'd at least get a showing of how exactly Sasuke surpasses Madara, tangibly, before moving on to further dojutsu. I agree on Hashirama's cells, but it seems initially nothing happened for Madara, Kabuto does appear to have more adept knowledge as to transference of abilities than Madara, but it's still possible that we'll see it come into play later, after Sasuke gives his Mangekyo a full showing.

Sasuke's acquisition of the Rinnegan would also serve as a nice foil to Naruto's acquisition of a "Juubi Mode". With both being powers that the Rikudo once possessed.

I agree, I'm just not certain if these abilities will come immediately, or at some later junction.

 

[adeshina365]

I've discussed this with you before, you know that I'm not against Sasuke acquiring Rinnegan, I just feel like it'd be too early for new ocular powers to come into play, if he hasn't yet revealed many of the hinted aspects of the Mangekyo.

Personally I feel like the only possible remaining secret of the Eternal Mangekyou is the union of Izanagi and Izanami:

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I'm aware, it just seems as though, the way he spoke, suggests some sort of greater power of Uchiha. Orochimaru's statements also suggest something of the sort, he would have had no knowledge of Sasuke gaining Senju type powers at the time.

I'm not sure about Itachi, but I took Orochimaru's comment as hinting to Sasuke surpassing Madara with the usage of Senjutsu.

That's an ability of Madara, though. I felt we'd at least get a showing of how exactly Sasuke surpasses Madara, tangibly, before moving on to further dojutsu. I agree on Hashirama's cells, but it seems initially nothing happened for Madara, Kabuto does appear to have more adept knowledge as to transference of abilities than Madara, but it's still possible that we'll see it come into play later, after Sasuke gives his Mangekyo a full showing.

Sasuke's usage of Enton: Kagutsuchi in tandem with the "Perfect" Susanoo can be seen as him surpassing Madara as an Uchiha.

The current situation demands more than the power of the EMS. Naruto will return to action with some sort of "Juubi Mode". It would be odd if Sasuke returns with just his EMS.

 

[Varrah]

You make it sound as if the augmentation that Susanoo receives is small......it's massive. "Perfect" Susanoo makes Madara practically invincible; only the best of best can defeat EMS Madara. The exhibitions of the Eternal Mangekyou have definitely matched the hyped.

Specifically dependent upon the user’s chakra and skill—the construction is only as invincible as its caster; and once more, Madara represents the crux or apex of the Uchiha; thus his powers are in suit.

Hardly, apart from improved stamina and the ability to stabilize Susanoō, the presentation of the Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan has not lived up its hype: literally everything Sasuke has demonstrated since leaving the cavern—aside from the aforestated qualities—is under the power of his Mangekyō Sharingan. What of the hype of the donor’s Mangekyō Sharingan douryōku

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with the receiver’s? Is Sasuke not to show Itachi’s visual prowess despite now being the holder of his eyes? Moreover; what of Madara’s other Mangekyō Sharingan techniques.​

The only potential that I could see remaining for the EMS is some sort of joint usage of Izanagi and Izanami

*Breathes*

And because I know how smart NB is—

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—let me take a moment to clarify my position on the matter: I am not against Sasuke receiving the Rin’negan, I just do not believe he needs with the potential of his current repertoire.​

• Free use of Izanagi—as rather than going blind from the technique, Sasuke eye may simply become temporary unusable.
  
  
• Free use of Izanami—it would have the same drawback as Izanagi.
  
  
• A possible joint application of Izanagi and Izanami.
  
  
• The Dousatsugan or the eye of insight becomes unlimited in its power—this is power that could easily be attributed.
  
  
• The Saimingan or the eye of hypnosis becomes unlimited in its power—again, this power could also easily be attributed.
  
  
• The ability to utilize Tsukuyomi—Sasuke notes how he can feel Itachi’s douryōku flow into him.
  
  
• The ability to create variations of Tsukuyomi—much like the many Kagutsuchi variations, except Sasuke would utilize Tsukuyomi to either create a physical sensation like Izanami, in which the recipient is stricken with the abnormality of lethargic movement when compared to Sasuke; or a much more subtle effect. In both usages, the aesthetics, I imagine, would look something like
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• The ability to use Itachi’s Amaterasu eye as a supplementary power for Kagutsuchi to which, the improvements of Kagutsuchi becoming more refined in design and application; such as using as Katon jutsu turn Enton, or Enton-Bushins.
  
  
• The knowledge of all Itachi’s copy jutsu and learned jutsu that may reside in the Eternal Mangekyō—which would be killer, and automatically boost Sasuke's potential.
  
  
• The possession of Itachi’s Regalia Weapons: the Yata Mirror and Sword of Totsuka.
  
  
• A fully stabilized Susanoō or “Perfect” Susanoō.
  
  
• A fully stabilized Susanoō encased in Enton or “Perfect” Susanoō encased in Enton.
  
  
• A fully stabilized Susanoō or “Perfect” Susanoō improved by Senninka.
  
  
• A fully stabilized Susanoō or “Perfect” Susanoō improved by Senninka that is encased in Enton.
  
  
• An oversoul version of Susanoō improved by Senninka encased in Enton—or just an oversoul.
  
  
• Hashirama’s jutsu.
  
  
• All the above powered by Sage Mode.
  
  
• Sage Mode.

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Again, Adeshina, I’m not knocking the route of Sasuke getting the Rin’negan; I just do not believe he needs it with the potential of his current repertoire. And honestly, the Rin’negan be gettin’ old—I’d rather have him the Shinju’s eyes or his ancestors—whatever the fuck they were.

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[The Robot With Human Hair]

Personally I feel like the only possible remaining secret of the Eternal Mangekyou is the union of Izanagi and Izanami:

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Certainly a possibility, but we still have not seen Sasuke make use of his brothers ocular powers, which is rather peculiar. I feel Madara's other Eternal Mangekyo techniques, aside from Susano'o, have been untouched as Sasuke will be the medium which Kishi chooses to reveal them. It seems as though the Eternal Kaleidoscope wouldn't quite match up to the hype, if this is all there is to it.

I'm not sure about Itachi, but I took Orochimaru's comment as hinting to Sasuke surpassing Madara with the usage of Senjutsu.

I agree, but it's rather vague, and I still believe ocular power could be another fine interpretation.

Sasuke's usage of Enton: Kagutsuchi in tandem with the "Perfect" Susanoo can be seen as him surpassing Madara as an Uchiha.

The current situation demands more than the power of the EMS. Naruto will return to action with some sort of "Juubi Mode". It would be odd if Sasuke returns with just his EMS.

We're still yet to see it, however.

Possibly, though I feel it likely, "Juubi Mode" is still a theory. I feel Sasuke will, at the least, awaken a sort of Sage Transformation on the other end of this.

 

[a banned cartoon]

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He's getting Hashirama cells pumped into him.

I thought everybody already knew that. Watch when he opens his eyes next chapter it'll be the rinnegan.

 

[UCE]

will just have to see then

 

[Rasensharingan]

I don't think genetic engineering is legal to perform on people. Obviously Narutoverse does not have an ethics committee.

 

[BlinkST]

Wonder if anyone besides Varrah gets these suspicions.

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[Orochimagus]

There could have been other ways to save Sasuke without the usage of Hashirama's cells. Juugo for example. Kishimoto is obviously setting Sasuke up for the Rinnegan or something beyond that. Just because some people do not like the Rinnegan does not mean Sasuke will not use the full potential of his eyes. I mean, a lot of people dislike the Sharingan too but it was obvious Sasuke was eventually going to have the EMS. The Rinnegan is the next step as stated by Kabuto so it is inevitable.

 

[UCE]

Wonder if anyone besides Varrah gets these suspicions.

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sasuke looks badass in there

 

[UCE]

There could have been other ways to save Sasuke without the usage of Hashirama's cells. Juugo for example. Kishimoto is obviously setting Sasuke up for the Rinnegan or something beyond that. Just because some people do not like the Rinnegan does not mean Sasuke will not use the full potential of his eyes. I mean, a lot of people dislike the Sharingan too but it was obvious Sasuke was eventually going to have the EMS. The Rinnegan is the next step as stated by Kabuto so it is inevitable.

look at my icon thats sasuke next power up bro

 

[adeshina365]

I'm quite busy so I won't be able to respond in detail to both of your posts.

@Varrah

I can see where you're coming from and your list is interesting. I have my doubts about the Eternal Mangekyou having that much potential though, but we'll see.

@The Robot With Human Hair

Your reasoning makes sense, but I question if Kishimoto will be going in that direction. I can't help but feel that he'll slap a Rinnegan onto Sasuke and be done with it.

 

[kunde]

Sausage fans are thinking that naruto fans would be disappointed if sasuke gets rinnegan...lol such a joke XDXD
Naruto is the one who will change the world as a main char and he is and will always be stronger than sasuke keep this in mind.

OT: Sasuke getting rinnegan is not a bad power up IMO. Otherwise i dont think he will be able keep up with next naruto's powerup Lol, oh yeah senjutsu is also possible.

 

[Shinato]

Sausage fans are thinking that naruto fans would be disappointed if sasuke gets rinnegan...lol such a joke XDXD
Naruto is the one who will change the world as a main char and he is and will always be stronger than sasuke keep this in mind.

OT: Sasuke getting rinnegan is not a bad power up IMO. Otherwise i dont think he will be able keep up with next naruto's powerup Lol, oh yeah senjutsu is also possible.

If Naruto turns out more powerful than Sasuke then Kishi has efficiently messed up the story. Everything is pointing towards that the true way to peace is the equal balance between Yin and Yang . Sasuke and Naruto symbolizes those two.

 

[UCE]

If Naruto turns out more powerful than Sasuke then Kishi has efficiently messed up the story. Everything is pointing towards that the true way to peace is the equal balance between Yin and Yang . Sasuke and Naruto symbolizes those two.

this^^ thread

 

[baul 24]

well i think sasuke will get wood style jutsu man mind that with wood style sasukes sharingan counters all its weakness + increased stamina and healing powers for sasuke is over kill no doubt