tobirama stronger than izuna??

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I think people general believe tobirama stronger than izuna base on manga. Is that true or I'm just being stupid?
 

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Well Tobirama beat Izuna pretty easily so I would say so, unless you've got a good argument why Izuna would be stronger.
 

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Tobirama did kill Izuna..
And Izuna did looked pretty surprised
Lol
Along with Hashi and Madara.
Maybe if Tobirama was a little less ruthless
 

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i like to think of them as around the same level i mean the manga hasent shown otherwise all be it tobirama is a little stronger in my opinion
 

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Tobirama has kind of a ***** style, he attacks people when they think they've won. I doubt Izuna was aware of FTG or he would of known what to do.
 

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He did kill him,but that dosent prove he outright stronger.

We didn't see the fight at all other than the ftg slash that ended it.

But as far as the manga has shown we can only assume that tobirama is the better of the two even if its just due to speed or cunning.
 

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Didn't see any MS abilities from Izuna, I'm not even sure if his sharingan was activated, didn't seem like it. Who knows how long they were fighting, Izuna probably exhausted himself to the point where he couldn't use the Mangekyou anyone. Tobirama them seizes on this opportunity to strike. Well that's what I think anyway.
 

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if tobirama kill izuna then...
 

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Yes however i believe izuna was near blind at that time.
 
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Well Tobirama beat Izuna pretty easily so I would say so, unless you've got a good argument why Izuna would be stronger.


Hebi Sasuke also beat Orochimaru quite easily, does that make him the stronger of the two? Absolutely not. Capitalizing on your opponents weaknesses doesn't indicate who is stronger.

On Topic: It cannot be certain but Izuna being the Second Mangekyo user makes it even more uncertain.
 

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Hebi Sasuke also beat Orochimaru quite easily, does that make him the stronger of the two? Absolutely not. Capitalizing on your opponents weaknesses doesn't indicate who is stronger.

On Topic: It cannot be certain but Izuna being the Second Mangekyo user makes it even more uncertain.

At that point in time...yes it does. In a fightyou're supposed to capitalize on weakness
 

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So basically people most not aware of the fact that during their last fight, izuna already gave his eyes to madara. Before that, they were all draws
 

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So basically people most not aware of the fact that during their last fight, izuna already gave his eyes to madara. Before that, they were all draws

we need to get more information about this thats all maybe in later chapters
 

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Nada ojo in eye socket s; otherwise story won't match up
 

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So basically people most not aware of the fact that during their last fight, izuna already gave his eyes to madara. Before that, they were all draws
That happened after tobirama cut his chest open.
 

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All the reference given that when madara took izuna eyes, izuna was healthy, far from being dead or blind
 

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All the reference given that when madara took izuna eyes, izuna was healthy, far from being dead or blind

In hashi's flash back maddy says his bro didn't survive the wound he got and left him his eyes
 

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I believe tobirama caught izuna off guard while fighting another senju in the battle field.
 
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