Obito ( Rinnegan ) vs BM Minato?

[Murasame]

Are you ignoring the fact that Obito struggles to control the biju and the chakra chains become visible?

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Minato is a sensor in base, Naruto is not. You're the one who's grasping at straws. You're A. buying into Obito having abilities that he does not have(7 bijus), B. Hoping that the bijus at some point aren't going to attempt rebellions and Minato won't notice the chakra chains, and C. Hoping Minato doesn't look for a weak spot and hoping he brute forces his way through as if he's Naruto.


Also, biju dama. That will destroy the rods even if it's unintentional.

And what's your point? These chakra chains became visible to Naruto, Bee, Guy, and Kakashi someone who's on par if not better at analyzing things than Minato.. they already knew about the beasts having those rods in them yet still didn't know where they were until they were told about it... Minato doesn't have knowledge on the rods much less know that they would be somewhere on the tailed beast's body so what makes you think he'll do this? Seriously you're really grasping at straws just automatically giving Minato all this knowledge when he doesn't have it so he can win.. typical fanboy.
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Me grasping at straws? Okay Minato is a sensor and? He's going to sense for something he doesn't know about when he's being pressured by 7 freaking tailed beasts and the Gedo Mazo? He wasn't able to sense what happened to Naruto when fighting BZ controlled Obito.. what do you think will happen against 7 tailed beasts? A) lmfao dude I didn't give him the 7 bijuu.. the OP did so stfu and deal with it. If he set the conditions that way then its what he wants not what you want so he had 7 bijuu. B) Already went over this bs above and only one bijuu rebelled.. afterwards it didn't happen again even when he had them all out in bijuu form if my memory serves me right. C) I'm not hoping you moron I'm just being logical and not making up bullshit speculation where minato who doesn't have knowledge on the rods and didn't have Son goku tell him where they are will find out on his own when even the others who had a genius like Kakashi couldn't even figure it out. Without knowledge he will have to fight with brute force and there is no way he can defeat 7 bijuu+ gedo mazo on his own.
I hope you still don't try to reply and grasp at giving all these things to Minato so he can the fight.. it's just fanboyism.
Lol I doubt that since they are small on the bijuu and are pretty deep in the skin.

- Minato is a sensor obviously.
- as for previous points about BM Naruto having help.
1- Naruto used BM for the first time at that point, and he did not even want to hurt the Bijuus.
2- The time limit for him to use BM was less than what he can currently.
3- Naruto did not make the TBB stronger than the other Bijuus' TBB so he won't hurt them
4- He can even use 5 TBBs at ones currently
...etc

*facepalm*
Jesus I never said Minato had the same time limit as Naruto did and I already know that Naruto's time limit increased as he was using it more. I just brought that up for the people who believe that BM Naruto in his 5 minute time limit can defeat the bijuu on his own without taking out the rods and without any help.
As for point 3 lol are you serious? You're pretty much saying Naruto knew how much power was needed to match the other tailed beast's TBBs you're joking I'm sure Naruto would fire the strongest one he can for safe measures.
Your point 4 I don't even get what you're trying to say here.. As for the sensing look at what I told Naruto X Man.
Now please save me these dumb replies I don't want to waste my time debating this.

 

[iNotorious]

And what's your point? These chakra chains became visible to Naruto, Bee, Guy, and Kakashi someone who's on par if not better at analyzing things than Minato.. they already knew about the beasts having those rods in them yet still didn't know until they were told about it... Minato doesn't have knowledge on the rods so what makes you think he'll do this? Seriously you're really grasping at straws just automatically giving Minato all this knowledge when he doesn't have it so he can win.. typical fanboy.
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Me grasping at straws? Okay Minato is a sensor and? He's going to sense for something he doesn't know about when he's being pressured by 7 freaking tailed beasts and the Gedo Mazo? He wasn't able to sense what happened to Naruto when fighting BZ controlled Obito.. what do you think will happen against 7 tailed beasts? A) lmfao dude I didn't give him the 7 bijuu.. the OP did so stfu and deal with it. If he set the conditions that way then its what he wants not what you want so he had 7 bijuu. B) Already went over this bs above and only one bijuu rebelled.. afterwards it didn't happen again even when he had them all out in bijuu form if my memory serves me right. C) I'm not hoping you moron I'm just being logical and not making up bullshit speculation where minato who doesn't have knowledge on the rods and didn't have Son goku tell him where they are will find out on his own when even the others who had a genius like Kakashi couldn't even figure it out. Without knowledge he will have to fight with brute force and there is no way he can defeat 7 bijuu+ gedo mazo on his own.
I hope you still don't try to reply and grasp at giving all these things to Minato so he can the fight.. it's just fanboyism.
Lol I doubt that since they are small on the bijuu and are pretty deep in the skin.

*facepalm*
Jesus I never said Minato had the same time limit as Naruto did and I already know that Naruto's time limit increased as he was using it more. I just brought that up for the people who believe that BM Naruto in his 5 minute time limit can defeat the bijuu on his own without taking out the rods and without any help.
As for point 3 lol are you serious? You're pretty much saying Naruto knew how much power was needed to match the other tailed beast's TBBs you're joking I'm sure Naruto would fire the strongest one he can for safe measures.
Your point 4 I don't even get what you're trying to say here.. As for the sensing look at what I told Naruto X Man.
Now please save me these dumb replies I don't want to waste my time debating this.

Good work my buddie *w*​

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Are you ignoring the fact that Obito struggles to control the biju and the chakra chains become visible?

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Minato is a sensor in base, Naruto is not. You're the one who's grasping at straws. You're A. buying into Obito having abilities that he does not have(7 bijus), B. Hoping that the bijus at some point aren't going to attempt rebellions and Minato won't notice the chakra chains, and C. Hoping Minato doesn't look for a weak spot and hoping he brute forces his way through as if he's Naruto.


Also, biju dama. That will destroy the rods even if it's unintentional.



Minato does have perfect SM. Only haters who deny the definition of a true sage would say this. Yeah, you really have no legitimate argument do you?





You really need to think about it deeper yourself. I swear you guys are being too simple-minded! First off, the reason why Naruto lost KCM was because previously, Kurama was taking away his chakra at an accelerated rate because of shadow clones. BM Minato is on friendly terms with Kurama, and as such, does not have the stamina issues.

Newsflash, this is not BM Naruto. This is someone with equivalent power, except uses ransengan with BM for CQB, which Naruto did not do in that fight, and can teleport out of bad situations.


Let's say Minato, by some miracle, doesn't look for a weak point and does not notice the rods. TBB barrages will damage the bijus along with destroying the rods as collateral damage. The bijus won't be able to counter with their TBBs because Minato will teleport them back. It will be a one-sided TBB barrage from Minato.

Not even 7 bijus can take on BM Minato if he plays his cards right, and he will.


I'm catching some sort of stomach bug and it's tiring to solo all 3 of you, so this may be my last post for a while.

Minato says he sucks at SM=people claiming he's a perfect Sage.Suddenly your sig makes sense except in reverse.

 

[Murasame]

Good work my buddie *w*​

Thanks but knowing that they think a 50% kurama can take on 7 bijuu and the gedo mazo I'm pretty sure they will keep arguing with their fanboyism so I'm just going to stop here and not waste my time.

 

[iNotorious]

Thanks but knowing that they think a 50% kurama can take on 7 bijuu and the gedo mazo I'm pretty sure they will keep arguing with their fanboyism so I'm just going to stop here and not waste my time.

50%Kurama can't but i guess BSM 50% could have a chance, I'm myself called a naruto fan and you're too my friend but we can't go into fanboy and say BM could defeat rinnegan obito, kamio alone is a big trouble.​

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

50%Kurama can't but i guess BSM 50% could have a chance, I'm myself called a naruto fan and you're too my friend but we can't go into fanboy and say BM could defeat rinnegan obito, kamio alone is a big trouble.​

BM Minato might be able to take on the bijuu one at a time but if they all attack him together then he has no chance.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Minato says he sucks at SM=people claiming he's a perfect Sage.Suddenly your sig makes sense except in reverse.

I'm only making an exception for this 1 reply.

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Don't stop denying manga facts on my account.

 

[iNotorious]

BM Minato might be able to take on the bijuu one at a time but if they all attack him together then he has no chance.

He has no chance, all the bijuus plus kamui? Yeah no​

 

[Murasame]

50%Kurama can't but i guess BSM 50% could have a chance, I'm myself called a naruto fan and you're too my friend but we can't go into fanboy and say BM could defeat rinnegan obito, kamio alone is a big trouble.​

I don't even think BSM can and I'm a Naruto fan not a fanboy like these guys. Naruto in BM was about to get overwhelmed by the bijuu until Bee stepped in and held two off so how is Minato who has equal fire power about to stand up to 7 bijuu and then the gedo mazo? Thats just plain fanboyism even if he has FTG or whatever.

 

[Ababeel]

*facepalm*
Jesus I never said Minato had the same time limit as Naruto did and I already know that Naruto's time limit increased as he was using it more. I just brought that up for the people who believe that BM Naruto in his 5 minute time limit can defeat the bijuu on his own without taking out the rods and without any help.
As for point 3 lol are you serious? You're pretty much saying Naruto knew how much power was needed to match the other tailed beast's TBBs you're joking I'm sure Naruto would fire the strongest one he can for safe measures.
Your point 4 I don't even get what you're trying to say here.. As for the sensing look at what I told Naruto X Man.
Now please save me these dumb replies I don't want to waste my time debating this.

- did I say that you said that? No. I was talking about Naruto himself, not Minato. Zzz
- Lol, tell me more about it, what does 8tails mean?

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"Does he intend to counter-balance it with the same power"

- Very well, let's stop debating then. I think it's better for both of us.

 

[VongolaX]

Are you ignoring the fact that Obito struggles to control the biju and the chakra chains become visible?

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Minato is a sensor in base, Naruto is not. You're the one who's grasping at straws. You're A. buying into Obito having abilities that he does not have(7 bijus), B. Hoping that the bijus at some point aren't going to attempt rebellions and Minato won't notice the chakra chains, and C. Hoping Minato doesn't look for a weak spot and hoping he brute forces his way through as if he's Naruto.


Also, biju dama. That will destroy the rods even if it's unintentional.



Minato does have perfect SM. Only haters who deny the definition of a true sage would say this. Yeah, you really have no legitimate argument do you?





You really need to think about it deeper yourself. I swear you guys are being too simple-minded! First off, the reason why Naruto lost KCM was because previously, Kurama was taking away his chakra at an accelerated rate because of shadow clones. BM Minato is on friendly terms with Kurama, and as such, does not have the stamina issues.

Newsflash, this is not BM Naruto. This is someone with equivalent power, except uses ransengan with BM for CQB, which Naruto did not do in that fight, and can teleport out of bad situations.


Let's say Minato, by some miracle, doesn't look for a weak point and does not notice the rods. TBB barrages will damage the bijus along with destroying the rods as collateral damage. The bijus won't be able to counter with their TBBs because Minato will teleport them back. It will be a one-sided TBB barrage from Minato.

Not even 7 bijus can take on BM Minato if he plays his cards right, and he will.


I'm catching some sort of stomach bug and it's tiring to solo all 3 of you, so this may be my last post for a while.

1. Hachibi said naruto stop taking chakra

2. Obito stays suspended in the air, and firing black rods everywhere.

Minato can't dodge that, even BM naruto's speed couldn't dodge it because he needed bee to block it:

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3. Minato never used ftg in BM

4. Minato can't take on 7 bijuus, that's just ridiculous.

5. You soloed nobody, you're just making a complete fool of yourself.

 

[iNotorious]

I don't even think BSM can and I'm a Naruto fan not a fanboy like these guys. Naruto in BM was about to get overwhelmed by the bijuu until Bee stepped in and held two off so how is Minato who has equal fire power about to stand up to 7 bijuu and then the gedo mazo? Thats just plain fanboyism even if he has FTG or whatever.

Well in this base, they over-rate the hell out of FTG/Kamui. ​

 

[Murasame]

I'm only making an exception for this 1 reply.

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Don't stop denying manga facts on my account.

X man is right on this one.. even if Minato is not good with senjutsu he is still a perfect sage. This should be obvious since he has the same exact look as SM Naruto.

 

[iNotorious]

- did I say that you said that? No. I was talking about Naruto himself, not Minato. Zzz
- Lol, tell me more about it, what does 8tails mean?

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"Does he intend to counter-balance it with the same power"

- Very well, let's stop debating then. I think it's better for both of us.

Bring a viz scans then we agree.​

 

[VongolaX]

[QUOTE=Ababeel;14630484]- did I say that you said that? No. I was talking about Naruto himself, not Minato. Zzz
- Lol, tell me more about it, what does 8tails mean?

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"Does he intend to counter-balance it with the same power"

- Very well, let's stop debating then. I think it's better for both of us. [/QUOTE]


Uh, no he didn't even you know this:

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[Gold Lightning]

I don't even think BSM can and I'm a Naruto fan not a fanboy like these guys. Naruto in BM was about to get overwhelmed by the bijuu until Bee stepped in and held two off so how is Minato who has equal fire power about to stand up to 7 bijuu and then the gedo mazo? Thats just plain fanboyism even if he has FTG or whatever.

You know FTG can separate them all right, lets say Minato makes 2 KCM clones. He then uses those 2 to grab 2 Bijuu at once at send them to another location. That leaves only 3 Bijuu for BM Minato to handle.

 

[KidGamer65]

Yeah except Minato doesn't have the same knowledge as Naruto did on the receivers so I don't know why everyone thinks Minato is going to do everything that Naruto did.. not to mention Naruto had help from Bee in the fight against the tailed beasts. He didn't do this alone. I highly doubt Naruto would've won if he actually try to fight them with instead of trying to free them.

-He doesn't need knowledge. If he can sense Bijuu chakra being transmitted from the Mazo to the Jins bodies; it'll be ridiculously simple to put two and two together, and as Minato is a sensor (Naruto needed SM at the time) replicating this feat isn't hard at all.

-Naruto had help from B, but Naruto isn't Minato.

Can Naruto redirect every projectile the Bijuu fire at him?

No, but Minato can via S/T Barrier.

Can Naruto teleport via Hiraishin?

No, but Minato can. In fact, the only pinch Naruto was ever in while engaging the bijuu was when he was about to get run over by Sanbi's rollout attack. Something Minato can easily evade via Hiraishin. Everything else is only a matter of ripping the rods out.


Also, where is this 7 Bijuu stuff coming from? Obito only has 6 Edo Jins. When OP said he has 7 Bijuu, it was obviously referring to the Bijuu in the Mazo. Does that mean they are usable in battle? Nope. Unless he magically pulled a Jin for Shukaku out his arse, its 6 Bijuu vs BM Minato. You people are acting like he is going to out muscle and beat down all 6 Bijuu when all he needs to do is pull out their rods. If they try to use the combined Bijuu Dama like they did on Naruto, it gets sent right back at them, and then the rods get blown up along with their bodies.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

I'm only making an exception for this 1 reply.

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Don't stop denying manga facts on my account.

He's a crappy Perfect Sage which is why Minato admitted to absolute sucking at senjutsu.But if you want to argue he can do things a Perfect SM user does then go ahead.

 

[VongolaX]

Minato has no counter for this:

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Even he realized that never stood a chance:

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[iNotorious]

He's a crappy Perfect Sage which is why Minato admitted to absolute sucking at senjutsu.But if you want to argue he can do things a Perfect SM user does then go ahead.

Tomorrow we're getting the viz scan of what minato said.​