Obito ( Rinnegan ) vs BM Minato?

[-immortal-]

Where did he used the power of Rinnegan? He only used it to capture the beast by the chains, that's all... His Rinnegan powers doesn't have any powers like Nagato or Madara. The only he has to fight Minato is Kamui and goes intangible.


AND 2nd...

Who wants a new computer from someone that talks bullshit?

Because Free is always good. you be Taking this PC thing seriously SHows how dumb u are

2. obito having used outer path and Gedo. meaning 2 abilities :snick:

 

[Klue]

Sharingan movenments > FTG

Not sure Izuna would agree.

Because Free is always good. you be Taking this PC thing seriously SHows how dumb u are

2. obito having used outer path and Gedo. meaning 2 abilities :snick:

One doesn't require the Rinnegan to control the Gedo Mazou statue, but it is required to summon it. Regardless, summoning the Gedo Mazou would fall under the Outer Path sector.

One ability.

 

[Thundergod123]

Because Free is always good. you be Taking this PC thing seriously SHows how dumb u are

2. obito having used outer path and Gedo. meaning 2 abilities :snick:

Oh sorry that I'm taking this too serious since without computers then no one like you would ever get a new one.... Old computer it is better than nothing rather than your crazy weird logic about The Sharingan.

 

[Thundergod123]

Not sure Izuna would agree.

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[Klue]

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LOL, Yeah. That's the one.

 

[Flawž]

Obito takes this high diff.

Gedo mazo and 7 Bijuu take care of Minato's Kurama Avatar.

Obito's Kamui takes care of Minato's FTG.

People forget that Obito is a lot more proficient with kamui compared to the 14 year old kid who was impatient for victory. Obito has shown the ability to wrap faster than a jinton can activate, Can go intangible almost instantly (faster than Juubi Jin madara could move) and was able to keep up with gai in gates, KCM and BM naruto's Foot speed.

Obito with Rinnegan takes this high diff.

 

[Thundergod123]

LOL, Yeah. That's the one.

You forgot about this as well....

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FTG > Obito

 

[Flawž]

You forgot about this as well....

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FTG > Obito

Obito didn't even have kamui and he was the juubi's Jin, He's not even worried about FTG.

 

[Thundergod123]

Obito didn't even have kamui and he was the juubi's Jin, He's not even worried about FTG.

Indeed, however as it seems Obito could counter it, but FTG still owns his Kamui.... Instant speed is sure overwhelmed.

 

[Flawž]

Indeed, however as it seems Obito could counter it, but FTG still owns his Kamui.... Instant speed is sure overwhelmed.

Adult obito is able to defeat Minato tho. He's more proefficent with kamui. 14 year old obito almost beat minato, Adult obito would wrap minato before he teleports to his kunai.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Adult obito is able to defeat Minato tho. He's more proefficent with kamui. 14 year old obito almost beat minato, Adult obito would wrap minato before he teleports to his kunai.

I always fail to see the "almost" in Teen Obito defeating Minato. What I remember was Obito sneaking up on Minato from behind while Minato was pre-occupied and after that sneak attack failed Minato went on to stomp. Well that's how I remember it anyway.

Obito may be more proficient in Kamui, but KCM Minato is faster, Sage Mode Minato is stronger. Don't see how Obito is better, Kamui may be the superior space time jutsu, but FTG is still the fastest.

 

[-immortal-]

Not sure Izuna would agree.




One doesn't require the Rinnegan to control the Gedo Mazou statue, but it is required to summon it. Regardless, summoning the Gedo Mazou would fall under the Outer Path sector.

One ability.

2 ability 1path

also Not Sure iF Current Tobirama and Minato

 

[Flawž]

I always fail to see the "almost" in Teen Obito defeating Minato. What I remember was Obito sneaking up on Minato from behind while Minato was pre-occupied and after that sneak attack failed Minato went on to stomp. Well that's how I remember it anyway.

Obito may be more proficient in Kamui, but KCM Minato is faster, Sage Mode Minato is stronger. Don't see how Obito is better, Kamui may be the superior space time jutsu, but FTG is still the fastest.

Im not talking about when he sneak up on him, I'm talking about when they went at it for the last time, When Minato threw his kunai. Obito Being Inexperience and too hasty failed to wrap minato the second he touched him.

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*Inexperienced obito has the tools necessary to defeat minato, he was just Inexperienced and wasn't proficient with kamui to do so.


Adult obito was shown to be able to wrap faster than Jinton:

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Obito Literally Teleported to Sasuke inside Jinton, warped him and warped out of there in the span of a second before Jinton activated.


Obito was also able to completely teleport away from KCM naruto whiten a meter distance with ease, Even before naruto could even know what happened.

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Minato's Foot speed isn't a factor in this. Obito also was shown to be able to react to Juubi Jin madara's movement, This proves that Minato cannot touch obito.

Minato > Ms obito

Rinnegan obito Takes minato tho.

 

[EliteShinobi]

Obito wins, High Deff.

 

[-immortal-]

Im not talking about when he sneak up on him, I'm talking about when they went at it for the last time, When Minato threw his kunai. Obito Being Inexperience and too hasty failed to wrap minato the second he touched him.

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*Inexperienced obito has the tools necessary to defeat minato, he was just Inexperienced and wasn't proficient with kamui to do so.


Adult obito was shown to be able to wrap faster than Jinton:

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Obito Literally Teleported to Sasuke inside Jinton, warped him and warped out of there in the span of a second before Jinton activated.


Obito was also able to completely teleport away from KCM naruto whiten a meter distance with ease, Even before naruto could even know what happened.

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Minato's Foot speed isn't a factor in this. Obito also was shown to be able to react to Juubi Jin madara's movement, This proves that Minato cannot touch obito.

Minato > Ms obito

Rinnegan obito Takes minato tho.

no only This. He has a Gunbai which Counters Rasengan

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also THe gedo mazo can Defeat BM minato becasue of Chains. but thats a thing they already denied

 

[Gold Lightning]

Im not talking about when he sneak up on him, I'm talking about when they went at it for the last time, When Minato threw his kunai. Obito Being Inexperience and too hasty failed to wrap minato the second he touched him.

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*Inexperienced obito has the tools necessary to defeat minato, he was just Inexperienced and wasn't proficient with kamui to do so.


Adult obito was shown to be able to wrap faster than Jinton:

Obito Literally Teleported to Sasuke inside Jinton, warped him and warped out of there in the span of a second before Jinton activated.


Obito was also able to completely teleport away from KCM naruto whiten a meter distance with ease, Even before naruto could even know what happened.

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Minato's Foot speed isn't a factor in this. Obito also was shown to be able to react to Juubi Jin madara's movement, This proves that Minato cannot touch obito.

Minato > Ms obito

Rinnegan obito Takes minato tho.

That was a sneak attack. You are talking about an Obito who had prep and pretty much all the intel in the world on Minato. Put them against each other now with each having the same amount of intel then FTG will always come out on top against Kamui. That scenario isn't even worth comparing, it was hardly even a fair encounter. This thread is about both of them 1 vs 1, fair grounds. You're saying Obito has improved but not taking into account Minato's upgrades as well.

Tell me what happened after Minato figured out Obito's ability (how much intel did Minato get again?), did Obito even have the slightest of chances?

Inexperienced Obito has the tools to defeat Minato, every ninja has the tools to defeat Minato (obito just has more), doesn't mean he will be able to.

 

[Darkakatsuki]

If BM Naruto was able to beat the six bijuu with just brute strength alone than it follows that BM Minato can easily do the same.





Even if Minato doesn't go BM mode, a simple application of the contract seal on each of the bijuu (who are nowhere near fast enough to avoid getting touched by him) will remove Obito's control over them like it did Kurama, better yet, why not just put the contract seal on the Gedo, that way, Obito loses complete control altogether.






Having said all that, I doubt Obito falls for the same trick again, I don't think he'd allow Minato to mark him again now that he has intel. And that whole waiting for the moment he attacks thing don't work no more, Bee, Gai, Kakashi, and Naruto all tried and it didn't work whatsoever. Sure they don't have FTG and don't have Minato's reaction speed, but still, Obito's reaction speed is out of this world as well (in terms of activating intangibility before getting hit, not body movement).






I reckon this would turn out to be a stalemate unless someone tries to take a risk. For instance, the only reason it didn't become a stalemate in the kyubi attack is because both were taking risks because neither could afford to waste time. The length of time Obito could afford to waste was limited because his control over the fox would waver over time, and Minato had to hurry to go save the village.






So, if in this case neither is chasing time, it just ends up becoming a stalemate.

 

[YellowFang]

It'll be just a replay of what happened last time b/w them...

 

[KidGamer65]

Minato will have an easier time with the Bijuu than Naruto did since he can teleport and redirect their own Bijuu Dama back at them with S/T Barrier. So there is little reason why he can't briefly subdue them and rip out the receivers. From there on out Minato rapes Obito just like he did 16 yrs ago.

-Gedo Mazo in Obito's hands is a non factor against Kurama Mode Minato.

-Rinnegan is a non factor since Obito has zero notable feats with it.

-So this is basically MS Obito w/ the Mazo vs BM Minato once the Bijuu are defeated, and its clear who wins that one. As long as Obito relies on Kamui alone after losing his big summons/beasts, he'll never be able to defeat Minato has Hiraishin has Kamui completely beat.

 

[Joker]

BM not required
Sage Mode not required (which he can use it battle)

It'll just be a dragged out version of the first time they fought but eventually FTG V2 well prevail.

I seriously hope you're not serious...
OT: Obito