Hashirama vs Kakashi

[KidGamer65]

ahahahah preposterous at best! care to explain how are scans of Edo super madara are proof of anything to do with kakashi? You clearly ignoring the fact that kakashi isnt on the same power level as madara ever before the edo.

You are also a prime example of a case where someone didn't bother to read before replying.

"You are focusing too much power on my main body"

That was my point. Hashirama can focus more power into his real body, but that makes his clones weaker. So he can choose how much power is being sent to them, hence them being so weak against Madara.

This reply implies that I am the on who used the scan as evidence to say Kakashi easily deals with his clones even though basic reading skills disagree with that conclusion.

 

[KidGamer65]

So wait. He's weaving hand seals b4 kakashi looks at him?
Hashi a sensor? Don't you have to knead chakra to sense? He's leagues below the likes of his bro but you think his crappy sensing feats is gonna do something?

Log off.

Kakashi looks at him.
His head disappears.
Gg.

Weaving Hand Signs=/=Clapping your hands or making Moku Bunshin, which don't need hand signs.

Being in battle usually means you are kneading chakra.

Weaker than Tobirama in sensing=/=Not being able to sense chakra build up.

The only one who should log off is the guy coming here with this shitty ass evidence for Hashirama not being able to stop Kamui. Lol, trying to use a Double Kamui feat as a single Kamui feat....the wank is so real.

Kakashi goes to lift his headband and use Kamui, Hashirama senses his chakra build up and blocks LoS. Simple as that. I have zero reason to believe a sensor with full intel on Kakashi's Kamui will not be able to block Kamui as long as he can act before its used (Hence the sensing part) and multiple techniques that easily block LoS.

Especially since they will be acting right off the bat, the guy who knows what Kakashi is going to do is going to block Kamui.

 

[Madara Uzumaki Uchiha]

I find it hard to believe that people really believe VOTE hashirama doesnot uttrly slaughter kakashi. -kamui needs visual input to activate. Bringer of Darkness justu prevents kakashi from using kamui.

-The second the battle starts hashirama goes for advent of the flowering trees justu ( the trees rise up and cover hashirama from visual view )

-All you need to do to beat kamui is interrupt the users direct line of sight. hahsirama easily does this by clapping his hands and summoning a forest.

 

[Haizaki]

People actually believe Kakashi wins against Hashi...what is this world coming to

 

[Bronze]

ahahahah preposterous at best! care to explain how are scans of Edo super madara are proof of anything to do with kakashi? You clearly ignoring the fact that kakashi isnt on the same power level as madara ever before the edo.



ahahahah and your talking about the same kamui that has never actually killed a single person! once again he couldn't kill pain, sauske, or even Deidara with it so i fail to see how it stops hashirama the strongest ninja according to madara. Kakashi hasnt even used it to kill a single person with it during the 4th ninja war. So all the talk about how he solos with it is ridiculous

Has Hashirama killed anyone? Nope. Does that mean he cant? Nope. Same with Kamui. Match-ups aren't based on plot story. They are based on decision on who wins. Winning is by killing or immobilizing. You need to understand that Kakashi can only beaten by Madara and Obito.

 

[Enki420]

This reply implies that I am the on who used the scan as evidence to say Kakashi easily deals with his clones even though basic reading skills disagree with that conclusion.

my bad I jumped in late last night(was half asleep) were clearly saying the same thing, didn't mean to preach to the choir.

 

[KidGamer65]

my bad I jumped in late last night(was half asleep) were clearly saying the same thing, didn't mean to preach to the choir.

Lmao, I'm sitting here all confused and stuff..lol. Its cool man.

 

[Enki420]

Lmao, I'm sitting here all confused and stuff..lol. Its cool man.

ahahah well im saying hashirama beat him easy

Has Hashirama killed anyone? Nope. Does that mean he cant? Nope. Same with Kamui. Match-ups aren't based on plot story. They are based on decision on who wins. Winning is by killing or immobilizing. You need to understand that Kakashi can only beaten by Madara and Obito.

Kakashi coulnt kill/immobilize pre EMS sauke or Pain both of whom pain in power and ability to hashirama. And of course hashirama killed people after all he was the leader the senju during the war times before the founding of villages. he was strong enough to create the leaf from a bunch of other top clans(including the uchiha). The only person ever shown to have the upper hand against hashirama is edo madara with hashirama cells and the super powers that come along with those, which kakashi doesnt have.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I don't care about your own interpretations. Obito's statement holds and that's that. BM Naruto didn't react first, it was Bee who intercepted the Large Shurikens and got his tails cut as well, giving Naruto ample room to grab them. It proves that they are fast, just not as fast as one would think. Why do keep bringing Konan into this? This has nothing to do with Konan's analysis which highlighted the difference between Obito's Intangibility and his object or self warping speed, both of which are slower than Intangibility. How does that analogy fit Kakashi?

Obito was fooled:

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- He thought Naruto was a Kage-Bushin and Kakashi Kamuied the Rasangan. I love how you ignore that this was never a one on one battle, where Gai and Naruto were both providing distractions for Kakashi. Give me a break. Naruto even created a Bijuu Dama as an additional distraction for kakashi to avail the moment again -

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This proves that kakashi only accomplished what he did because of distractions and nothing more. His Kamui being this instant snipe technique is nonsense -

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- Kakashi's warp point appears here. Meanwhile Minato throws his Kunai and enters his slugish SM - the warp point is still present, as Obito is shown walking towards Madara with the warp point on him - the 'tap tap' signs prove so. Yet he still has to warp Obito.

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- His Kamui is cancelled at the bottom right page. Instant indeed.

Wait what? Obito warping himself is slower than Kakashi's? Lol The Guy whom karin couldn't even detect when he warped himself and Sasuke away - She thought he had simply vanished? He dodged KCM Naruto's point-blank blitz by warping himself away? Lol Yet the manga shows that his warp-point couldn't even vanish Obito, given the latter a sizable time to cancel his. Wow!

P.s: Hashirama wins without any effort at all. He can start the battle with Genjutsu as well - the darkness Genjutsu he used against Sarutobi.

Ok 1 it's not my interpretation. It's konan's hypothesis. The reason I keep bringing it up is because unlike you're vastly incorrect interpretation of 1 scan(which is like you're entire argument) she proved her hypothesis in that very same fight. And what's worse its that maddy proved it as well.

What irritates me is the fact that you pass off your interpretation as law and use ppl like karin (who on record only saw his tech once) as back up when ppl like maddy, konan who've seem his ms in action multiple times(to the point were they both formulated plans(plans that worked mind you) to abuse the speed difference) prove you wrong.

And what's worse is the fact that obito said he's only gonna focus on kakashi's kamui and he STILL didn't see it happen. The bijudama wasn't to trick/distract him like you're claiming but to get him to phase.


And then you bring up scans of kakashi's warp point as if obito didn't have the same warp point. Further illustrating the speed in which the battle is happening. Yet you go on to say "it's so fast karin didn't even realize" contradicting yourself.

That's how bad you're argument is.

Bringer of darkness requires seals. Kakashi's warp is faster. And you've yet to answer my question. I'm not gonna play ur game. It's not my fault kamui is broken.

 

[LegendaryAce]

With full intel kakashi stands no chance.

hashirama would be prepared to counter kamui, so first thing is blocking kakashi's line of sight.

and just BOD kakashi and FWT - then proceed to kill.

 

[shelke]

Ok 1 it's not my interpretation. It's konan's hypothesis. The reason I keep bringing it up is because unlike you're vastly incorrect interpretation of 1 scan(which is like you're entire argument) she proved her hypothesis in that very same fight. And what's worse its that maddy proved it as well.

What irritates me is the fact that you pass off your interpretation as law and use ppl like karin (who on record only saw his tech once) as back up when ppl like maddy, konan who've seem his ms in action multiple times(to the point were they both formulated plans(plans that worked mind you) to abuse the speed difference) prove you wrong.

And what's worse is the fact that obito said he's only gonna focus on kakashi's kamui and he STILL didn't see it happen. The bijudama wasn't to trick/distract him like you're claiming but to get him to phase.

And then you bring up scans of kakashi's warp point as if obito didn't have the same warp point. Further illustrating the speed in which the battle is happening. Yet you go on to say "it's so fast karin didn't even realize" contradicting yourself.

That's how bad you're argument is.

Bringer of darkness requires seals. Kakashi's warp is faster. And you've yet to answer my question. I'm not gonna play ur game. It's not my fault kamui is broken.

You know, you are THAT guy from many a thread that I have quoted on that no matter how many times scans are thrown in your face, you, with your tang-along yolo English that makes no sense, slink around your petty argument for no reason.

- Konan's statements were a juxtaposition of Obito's Intangibility and Warping Objects/Self. Nothing to do with kakashi.
- Karin's statement holds weight and value as how fast Obito's warping speed is. I couldn't care less about your own interpretations, bringing the same stone-age Kakashi-romance with nothing to back it up, rather than the repeated blubbering about Konan and ignoring how it had everything to do with Obito and nothing with kakashi and his pitiful Kamui.

- I love you keep ignoring the fact that Obito cannot possibly tell if Naruto has stopped Rasangan or whether that one was a Kagebushin or not, or at that moment, he was fully focused on Naruto and then the BD he used to distract him. All proven through scans. Your claims are just that, your own claims. The manga shows otherwise.

- This doesn't make a crock of sense. The warp point was there and so much happened and yet, Kakashi failed to instant-snipe Obito, leaving a large lapse in between that allowed Obito to cancel his Kamui, which happened after Minato got kicked around at the bottom right of the page when his MS was gone. Love the desperate denials.

- Obito's Kamui is clearly broken. Kakashi's? It needs a lot of fixing. Please don't. I never asked for your opinions.